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Topic: Avalon chip @ 0.086 BTC/chip + ASIC Board Assembling Services. (Read 14586 times)

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I am interested to purchase one. PM me other details.
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 Smiley high hope to diy asic
legendary
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Lemme see if I still have my Business Dev skills.
Will keep pushing this forward till something comes through.
sr. member
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try,
http://www.aizyc.com/asic/asic-/-soc-design.html
Aizyc Technology Pvt. Ltd.
6th Floor, Plot No:488 & 489 
Ayyappa Society, Madhapur 
Hyderabad 500081  India   
Phone +91 (40) 645 99770
Fax: +91 (40) 309 95281



this guys seem like having a lot experience with ASIC. even they can design ASIC chips and probably place a manufacturing contract somewhere.  not the best wait to start, though. Avalon ASIC chips not costly at all. But for them having experience with ASIC is a big plus.

No one answers the phone. I called yesterday.

Have tried to mail as well.

same problem with many of this kind of companies. They do biz in close personal contacts, dont much looking out for new clients.
legendary
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try,
http://www.aizyc.com/asic/asic-/-soc-design.html
Aizyc Technology Pvt. Ltd.
6th Floor, Plot No:488 & 489 
Ayyappa Society, Madhapur 
Hyderabad 500081  India   
Phone +91 (40) 645 99770
Fax: +91 (40) 309 95281



this guys seem like having a lot experience with ASIC. even they can design ASIC chips and probably place a manufacturing contract somewhere.  not the best wait to start, though. Avalon ASIC chips not costly at all. But for them having experience with ASIC is a big plus.

No one answers the phone. I called yesterday.

Have tried to mail as well.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
try,
http://www.aizyc.com/asic/asic-/-soc-design.html
Aizyc Technology Pvt. Ltd.
6th Floor, Plot No:488 & 489 
Ayyappa Society, Madhapur 
Hyderabad 500081  India   
Phone +91 (40) 645 99770
Fax: +91 (40) 309 95281



this guys seem like having a lot experience with ASIC. even they can design ASIC chips and probably place a manufacturing contract somewhere.  not the best wait to start, though. Avalon ASIC chips not costly at all. But for them having experience with ASIC is a big plus.
legendary
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Nice, I will try this list tomorrow.

I tried few today.

Speaking to Corel and a startup.
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I'll send  you a  link  for a  company my  org  did  business with .  will  send you  the link in the morning  for  Bangalore  .
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What  about  sparta 6 chips , can  be locally be  acquired,  and lot  of  companies   working  with that . might be a bit  slow and  consume  a bit more  power, but  dont have to  go through the hassle  of   customs.  

that can be interesting as well, just I do not have time for it. I called and emailed to two companies regarding ASIC boards with no result and dropped this project for a while.

If you can find company who will manufacture FGPA miners on Spartan, then we can talk, on speed, power consumption, cost per board, minimum batch. With electricity cheap in India it make a lot of sense.

Importation of Avalon chips is not a problem at all.  

Can you please gimme the company names?

one is http://bitmapper.org/

another I cannot find. Ironically Pune appears to be home for large number of such industries. Seems it all boil down to whom you know.

http://dir.indiamart.com/impcat/pcb-design-services.html

Pune sounds close enough for me.

Anything in Bangalore?
sr. member
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try,
http://www.aizyc.com/asic/asic-/-soc-design.html
Aizyc Technology Pvt. Ltd.
6th Floor, Plot No:488 & 489 
Ayyappa Society, Madhapur 
Hyderabad 500081  India   
Phone +91 (40) 645 99770
Fax: +91 (40) 309 95281

sr. member
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Merit: 250
What  about  sparta 6 chips , can  be locally be  acquired,  and lot  of  companies   working  with that . might be a bit  slow and  consume  a bit more  power, but  dont have to  go through the hassle  of   customs.  

that can be interesting as well, just I do not have time for it. I called and emailed to two companies regarding ASIC boards with no result and dropped this project for a while.

If you can find company who will manufacture FGPA miners on Spartan, then we can talk, on speed, power consumption, cost per board, minimum batch. With electricity cheap in India it make a lot of sense.

Importation of Avalon chips is not a problem at all.  

Can you please gimme the company names?

one is http://bitmapper.org/

another I cannot find. Ironically Pune appears to be home for large number of such industries. Seems it all boil down to whom you know.

http://dir.indiamart.com/impcat/pcb-design-services.html
legendary
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What  about  sparta 6 chips , can  be locally be  acquired,  and lot  of  companies   working  with that . might be a bit  slow and  consume  a bit more  power, but  dont have to  go through the hassle  of   customs.   

that can be interesting as well, just I do not have time for it. I called and emailed to two companies regarding ASIC boards with no result and dropped this project for a while.

If you can find company who will manufacture FGPA miners on Spartan, then we can talk, on speed, power consumption, cost per board, minimum batch. With electricity cheap in India it make a lot of sense.

Importation of Avalon chips is not a problem at all. 

Can you please gimme the company names?
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If anyone can manage to bring out an ASIC within 2 months here is an open source project, where a detailed Tutorial will be made on how to order and produce ASIC boards locally,with firmware. But since Burnin is coding the firmware, the Tutorial release will be mostly after Burnin starts shipping his boards.

DIY PCB with AVALON
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-pcb-with-avalon-the-quarter-stick-needs-help-161715
Low Cost DIY ASIC Miner

Purpose:
This thread is intended for the development of a very low cost DIY open source
ASIC miner based on Avalon's chips. Hopefully, it will inspire other Bitcoin ASIC
manufactures to offer their chips as well.

Objectives:
* Get ASICs in the hands of the masses ASAP.

* Create the cheapest solution possible. The lowest possible price is the goal.
The $ per hash ratio is not expected to be the best.

* Make it simple enough that anyone with a DIY spirit can assemble one of these with
some simple low priced tools.
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/category/2
DIY manufacturing may be an avenue to get these out much faster.
Expect a few hours assembly time per board.

*Make the PCB design that is not only DIY friendly, but mass production friendly as well.
It will use surface mount technology.

*Inspire more ASIC Bitcoin Mining manufactures to pop up all over the world (Decentralization).
ASIC manufacturing in general is the most complicated production process in the world.
IMO, the best thing for Bitcoin would be for ASIC Bitcoin Manufactures to be decoupled from
final product production; or at least offer their chips as well on top of their final products.

Specifications (subject to change):
* USB power source is all that is required.
* Utilizes a single Avalon ASIC
* 256+ MH/s
* 2 Watt maximum power usage
* TYPE A USB Male option on either side of the PCB
* Type B USB Female option
* More to come

Sponsors:
*Burnin - He is a serious manufacture of Bitcoin mining equipment. He has committed to helping
with the open source software/firmware to make this project function. He has started an official
thread for his miners and it's worth checking out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/work-in-progess-burnins-avalon-chip-to-mining-board-service-179769

*Zefir - He is preordaining Avalon ASICs in smaller quantities for anyone interested:
funds: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-avalon-asic-chip-distribution-177827
Zefir is committed to helping this low cost DIY project be successful by making a small quantity
of chips available for ordering and development.

Team:
All of you! An open source design also means its open to anyone. Feel free to take the initiative
to help out in your own way. Please don't get discouraged as it may take time to figure
out where your talents fit in best. I have received an overwhelming quantity of supportive emails
and also many request to help out. I wasn't prepared for that, but now, I would like to make
a list of anyone that wants to get involved here and what they would like to bring to the table.
Shoot me ANOTHER email and I will add you name here.

"Someone42" who was the inspiration and pioneer in hardware wallets has offered his help here.
"Burnin" has also offered his help, but is also very busy as he is preparing his own miner.

Allten's Commitment:
I will engineer the schematic and the PCB. As soon as the chip specifications are available, I will
release within a week a preliminary design for feedback. I will personally manufacture enough
of these to get them in the hands of all those that will be helping with firmware/software development.
After that, a detailed tutorial will be made on how to order and produce these by yourself.

Important note: I do not want to become a distributor for these for the simple fact I would like
to have time available for other projects I'm passionate about. This is a golden opportunity for anyone
or a few people to become distributors of DIY kits and already assembled miners. I will assist anyone
to get set up for this once I've completed the tutorial.


Funding:
Sending some coins would be very helpful and greatly appreciated.
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What will donations cover? Enough to order the parts and PCBs for the initial boards used for development.
All extra will be used to drive bounties for software/firmware development.
I get the feeling that many have ordered chips with confidence that there will be a PCB solution
readily available before the ASICs arrive. If that is the case, consider donating up to 5% of
what you invested in chips to this project. It would sure help hurry it a long! Much of the bounty portion
may go to "burnin" as his code development for the controller portion will be shared with this project and
he is most heavily invested to make it work along with his product ASAP.

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I can buy batch of Avalon chips from Avalon 10000 chips delivery in 10 weeks in average. What is missing a company which can make boards in India. Try to find such company who can design and make boards for 10 - 20 chips per board and USB pen drives with one chip as well.

If we will have such company I will order chips and sale boards locally. In 4-5 month we can have boards available locally. Also Avalon provide chip for testing purpose, so testing can be completed before chips arrive to India. I own private limited company which can do importation of chips and execute manufacturing contract for boards.

me me me ME !!! i M in talks with such people.
sr. member
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I can buy batch of Avalon chips from Avalon 10000 chips delivery in 10 weeks in average. What is missing a company which can make boards in India. Try to find such company who can design and make boards for 10 - 20 chips per board and USB pen drives with one chip as well.

If we will have such company I will order chips and sale boards locally. In 4-5 month we can have boards available locally. Also Avalon provide chip for testing purpose, so testing can be completed before chips arrive to India. I own private limited company which can do importation of chips and execute manufacturing contract for boards.

Nice idea on the SPARTAN 6. But developing a Spartan6 FPGA will take time, im assuming more than Burnins expected delivery date since he's been developing since April, Burnin was waiting for Avalon to release his Reference Design and Specs, which Avalon released only on May 10th. So i`m expecting Burin to finish his ASIC design before we can even start on an FPGA.

First, we don't need a 10,000 chip buy, Minimum buy is 10 chips From Sebastian Ju, if all interested parties put in a Single Buy order we can get an order through.

Second, FPGA development cost might not be recoverable considering that we might only have a handful of miners ready to order, I assuming < 20 miners or around <300 chips. Development+ Fabrication cost per FPGA should be less than < 100$( for a 10 chip board ) which is Burnins Board+assembly cost.

Finally,Then the only advantage of this ASIC Chip+ ASIC board service is that its Expected to delivery around June-August. hence mining before excessive Difficulty jump.
A BFL 5Ghz miner costs 270+80$ shipping but is expected to ship extremely late around the end of 2013. No advantage.
Now? Probably by Christmas if you're lucky, I'd wager.  Undecided

If we try a FPGA implementation and it takes 5+ months, we are losing the only advantage, Time.
Almost 6 different, 10,000 chip group buys are underway, by the time a local implementation is complete in 5 months, 60,000*0.28 GH/s=16,000Ghz = 16 Th/s+ Avalon MIners+BFL miners+ASIC Miner will be added to the network. We will be mining with a FPGA @ that insane difficulty, when we could have easily could have bought an ASIC miner at the almost same cost in August.
Whats the best an FPGA can do , i`m not sure,
X6500 FPGA Miner    400[14]    23.25    0.72    17.2[14]    550

Alternative,
Bkkcoin  Kit +Chips:
1chip miner :   0.28 Gh/s : 0.866BTC+16$(Kit) = 26$
16chip miner : 4.5   Gh/s : 1.376BTC +35$(Kit) = 195$
64 chip miner :18.04 Gh/s : 5.504BTC +100$ (Kit) = 735$
heat sink, ATX PSU and cables+ Local Assembling required (Less Headache)
sr. member
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What  about  sparta 6 chips , can  be locally be  acquired,  and lot  of  companies   working  with that . might be a bit  slow and  consume  a bit more  power, but  dont have to  go through the hassle  of   customs.   

that can be interesting as well, just I do not have time for it. I called and emailed to two companies regarding ASIC boards with no result and dropped this project for a while.

If you can find company who will manufacture FGPA miners on Spartan, then we can talk, on speed, power consumption, cost per board, minimum batch. With electricity cheap in India it make a lot of sense.

Importation of Avalon chips is not a problem at all. 
legendary
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I can buy batch of Avalon chips from Avalon 10000 chips delivery in 10 weeks in average. What is missing a company which can make boards in India. Try to find such company who can design and make boards for 10 - 20 chips per board and USB pen drives with one chip as well.

If we will have such company I will order chips and sale boards locally. In 4-5 month we can have boards available locally. Also Avalon provide chip for testing purpose, so testing can be completed before chips arrive to India. I own private limited company which can do importation of chips and execute manufacturing contract for boards.

Ok, I will work on this.

Atleast try to identify some entry points.
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What  about  sparta 6 chips , can  be locally be  acquired,  and lot  of  companies   working  with that . might be a bit  slow and  consume  a bit more  power, but  dont have to  go through the hassle  of   customs.   
sr. member
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I can buy batch of Avalon chips from Avalon 10000 chips delivery in 10 weeks in average. What is missing a company which can make boards in India. Try to find such company who can design and make boards for 10 - 20 chips per board and USB pen drives with one chip as well.

If we will have such company I will order chips and sale boards locally. In 4-5 month we can have boards available locally. Also Avalon provide chip for testing purpose, so testing can be completed before chips arrive to India. I own private limited company which can do importation of chips and execute manufacturing contract for boards.
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Very interesting VERY interested.

I have a few trades waiting to happen and some accusations I must prove wrong, after that I'll get in touch.
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