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legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1912
The Concierge of Crypto
Could you tell me when pcb's will be ready for shipping? Id like to order few bare pcbs and mount everything my self. I have a few pice SMT/BGA rework rig that will handle it with ease. Also are you going to provide schematics for your pcb?
They'll be ready 1-2 Weeks prior to expected Chip delivery.
Schematics/BOM will be provided.


Since a lot of you are wondering how this whole signed message thing will work.
This is how to do it with the Bitcoin-QT Client:
#Step1: click sign message


#Step2: choose the originating address


#Step3 Paste or type the message stating you want your chips assembled by me


#Step4 press sign message


#Step5
Include the output like this in the order email to me (not open yet)
Code:
Signing address:
18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX
-----cut below-----
Hi Zefir,

i want that my all of my Chips ordered from you are send to Burnin for assembly into Mining boards.
Originating address: 18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX

signed

-----uncut above-----
Signature: H15yzUi6PGtX+GUFT0jb/epPHLD0epfinXlskrxpPPlqJOPeg70BSwIdqMf/rwDiTl0fGWp7NQ51TsdK/PoCXg0=


And more good news for people who participated in ragingazn628's group buy.
I'm in contact with him to establish a similar direct shipping scheme.


account was taken over, quoting to save the key for proof.

So you weren't posting since November 26? Someone else got the other account? Previous post to that date was 2014 March 03. (If you have any staked or publicly made addresses that you still retain the private key to, let us know ...)
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Could you tell me when pcb's will be ready for shipping? Id like to order few bare pcbs and mount everything my self. I have a few pice SMT/BGA rework rig that will handle it with ease. Also are you going to provide schematics for your pcb?
They'll be ready 1-2 Weeks prior to expected Chip delivery.
Schematics/BOM will be provided.


Since a lot of you are wondering how this whole signed message thing will work.
This is how to do it with the Bitcoin-QT Client:
#Step1: click sign message
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3674/sign1l.png

#Step2: choose the originating address
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2913/sign2kn.png

#Step3 Paste or type the message stating you want your chips assembled by me
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8600/sign3xw.png

#Step4 press sign message
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8262/sign4r.png

#Step5
Include the output like this in the order email to me (not open yet)
Code:
Signing address:
18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX
-----cut below-----
Hi Zefir,

i want that my all of my Chips ordered from you are send to Burnin for assembly into Mining boards.
Originating address: 18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX

signed

-----uncut above-----
Signature: H15yzUi6PGtX+GUFT0jb/epPHLD0epfinXlskrxpPPlqJOPeg70BSwIdqMf/rwDiTl0fGWp7NQ51TsdK/PoCXg0=


And more good news for people who participated in ragingazn628's group buy.
I'm in contact with him to establish a similar direct shipping scheme.


account was taken over, quoting to save the key for proof.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1001
https://gliph.me/hUF
[...]
Companies like Bitmaintech has own ASIC's and much lower PCB costs in China and nobody is willing to pay more money for "Made in Germany" like Burnin Mining boards.

ASIC hardware was overpriced from the get go. More competition, rising difficulty and (now) lower exchange rate are bringing the price down, because there's less buyers buying blindly whatever they can grab because they think they can print money for free. To a certain extent this was foreseeable.

Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but the best option would have been to design in Germany and produce in China.


Only the possible ROI is important.

Nothing new here.  Wink
full member
Activity: 269
Merit: 117
I think after being burnt twice (Avalon for one, Cryptx for two  Angry Sad ), his interest has probably moved elsewhere or he only deals on a corporation level.

You are right, we are still in contact with him.

He has lost a lot of money with the Avalon delivery delay and the Cryptx bitburner bitfury deal.
After the Bitfury boards, he has developed and manufactured A1 boards with the same design in early 2014.

But after the miner prices are decreased in may, june  - there was no way to selling these boards with any profit, the german production costs for PCB are too expensive.
We have bought 50 A1 boards in april from Burnin Mining and as the former boards they are great.
For example, the Coincraft Desk has a power efficiency of 1 Watt / GH/s, the bitburner A1 board using 0,825 Watt / GH/s at the same hashing power.
Our boards are mining since April, and no one fails...

In september we have started our green colocation project in Iceland (english translation will follow within the next few days):
https://cryptcoin.de/solutions/projects

Within this project he has moved all his own A1 boards together with our boards to Iceland and they are still mining now.
(Look at the "green energy" picture, you can see the boards working in a rack.)

He had some ideas, for example developing new boards with Spondoolies chips, but at the moment there is no way to do this for a profitable market price.
Companies like Bitmaintech has own ASIC's and much lower PCB costs in China and nobody is willing to pay more money for "Made in Germany" like Burnin Mining boards.
Only the possible ROI is important.

If anyone has technical problems with his existing Burnin Mining boards, you can contact us and we will see how we can help.
This is the temporary end of the story right now...

regards
cryptcoin_de





legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1001
https://gliph.me/hUF


I think after being burnt twice (Avalon for one, Cryptx for two  Angry Sad ), his interest has probably moved elsewhere or he only deals on a corporation level.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Just imagine what he could do with some newer generation chips...
sr. member
Activity: 317
Merit: 250
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I'm just popping in here to say these Burnin's Avalon boards are the best Asics I've ever had in terms of reliability. The cooling on them is great along with a great interface that is rock stable using Cgminer. I bought something like 36 boards and while my shipment came damaged from the shipping carrier and I had to fix almost half the boards as some parts were ripped off. It's unfortunate what happened and I believe Avalon is what caused this whole thing. Burnin's design was great and he had everything lined up until Avalon dropped the ball on delivering the chips. Financially speaking, Burning got burned on this whole thing and the amount of time he dedicated to this endeavor unfortunately wasn't rewarding.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1001
https://gliph.me/hUF
Thank you! Looking at the mouser pic, it's the SMD one.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Anyone know a part number the silver cap next to the Phoenix power connection (C522)? Says 470 EFP 2JI1 on it?
It's probably a 470uF 25v electrolytic capacitor.
This one should work, but check the size, 10mmx10mm
http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic/EEE-FK1E471P/?qs=%2fha2pyFadug8Pl57h5%252bWR9OoWjHTEjaEuIm2uYdVIDjrSzeT33x3bQ%3d%3d
You can even replace it with a cheaper radial one instead of SMD (easier to solder too).
http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Nichicon/UPW1E471MPD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtZ1n0r9vR22RH2kZvTh%252b0aMBvmwdG7WLg%3d
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1001
https://gliph.me/hUF
Anyone know a part number the silver cap next to the Phoenix power connection (C522)? Says 470 EFP 2JI1 on it?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
I had a total of 0 emails/messages from people wanting to collaborate so I haven't made much progress yet, been a bit busy lately.


Here's the info we have on Burnin Mining:
Quote
Company registration number: HRB127611 HAMBURG

Adress:
Burnin Electronics UG (Haftungsbeschränkt)
Planckstraße 13
22765 Hamburg

Email: [email protected]

Phone: +49.1636293096

CEO: Martin Willimczik (Willimczik, Martin, Wedel) 28.07.1987

From what I've seen so far, it sounds like it is relatively inexpensive to take a dispute like this through the German civil court system. Local court if total under 5,000 euro, otherwise district.


If anyone wants to join in these efforts please email or message me before 30 June: Email Address, order price(€), shipping(€), tax(€), total(€), Payment method, Country

Start of July I will have some time, so will try and get in contact with Martin (wish me luck, lol). Failing positive resolution from this, we will be getting legal advice and taking immediate action.
sr. member
Activity: 361
Merit: 252
What is burnins problem is that he offered a refund (50% now, or 70% later) then only refunded some. Many, including myself, would still have sent chips to burnin had the refund not been offered.

I started the same on my side yesterday !
Please, we need to be together on this one !
Definitely! How did the call to the lawyer go?
I'm not attempting or offering to do everything myself, just trying to get some organisation happening. We're going to have to gather and verify all the details before the actual legal action can get started.

Any progress on this? Might be interested in joining the efforts.

Any update? I would join as well...
hero member
Activity: 1232
Merit: 516
What is burnins problem is that he offered a refund (50% now, or 70% later) then only refunded some. Many, including myself, would still have sent chips to burnin had the refund not been offered.

I started the same on my side yesterday !
Please, we need to be together on this one !
Definitely! How did the call to the lawyer go?
I'm not attempting or offering to do everything myself, just trying to get some organisation happening. We're going to have to gather and verify all the details before the actual legal action can get started.

Any progress on this? Might be interested in joining the efforts.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
I want to underclock these! Can anyone help me with some MHz and Voltages?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
How long will the Sunon coolers that run at 100% last?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
I'm thankful Avalon did finally ship the chips (many months late) so I got my miner. Lost months of income off of it, but at least it works great. Smiley
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 101
So sad, that this disaster happened. I was responsible for the BitBurner Waterblocks. But I wasn't able too to get contact with Burnin afterwards. I have no clue what happened to him. Pls excuse my English.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
What is burnins problem is that he offered a refund (50% now, or 70% later) then only refunded some. Many, including myself, would still have sent chips to burnin had the refund not been offered.

I started the same on my side yesterday !
Please, we need to be together on this one !
Definitely! How did the call to the lawyer go?
I'm not attempting or offering to do everything myself, just trying to get some organisation happening. We're going to have to gather and verify all the details before the actual legal action can get started.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
My understanding was the refunds were only partial and based on the amount of sales that completed since there were no funds left over to do further refunds with? Keep in mind burnin ordered large quantities of parts and supplies that he could not return in order to full all of these orders, many of which were never completed because people didn't send chips to him to complete their order. Which also isn't burnin's problem, it was the buyer's responsibility to get the chips delivered to him for assembly.

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I started the same on my side yesterday !
Please, we need to be together on this one !
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