Topic: Avalon Nano 3 [unofficial thread] - page 16. (Read 7787 times)
I ordered 1 today gave them $10 tip total cost $145 usd ships to me in 1 month or so.
And do you feel it release a lot of heat, or not at all?
140W max 
, so not much. A little lower than a goldshell box. 
It is confirmed, the nano 3 will be compatible "out of the box" with solo pools !! 
And do you feel it release a lot of heat, or not at all?
To buy this miner, shall I buy it directly through here
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/avalon-nano-3-blockchain-smart-home#/
Says 120EUR includes PSU?
Is this website reliable?
Thanks
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/avalon-nano-3-blockchain-smart-home#/
Says 120EUR includes PSU?
Is this website reliable?
Thanks
This site is completely trustworthy. On this site you have to trust the seller. This is one of the biggest crowdfunding sites out there.
The problem is with my energy cost, which is around €0.17/kWh. Do I think it will be viable? 
It depends; if you have a shed or a small guest bathroom that is heated with electricity anyway for instance, you don't burn any more money when switching from a resistive to a 'semiconductor-based' electric heater.I just checked their Indiegogo updates page and there was an update only a few minutes ago. They make the housing in other colors now, which I find unnecessary, but what's more exciting is that they finished making some demo units and started production.
To buy this miner, shall I buy it directly through here
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/avalon-nano-3-blockchain-smart-home#/
Says 120EUR includes PSU?
Is this website reliable?
Thanks
It is confirmed, the nano 3 will be compatible "out of the box" with solo pools !!
...But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable....
Even with the mods, unless you know something I don't, you still have to get 220V to wherever you want the heat.
I am using a modded S9 for heat in the back room of the condo at the moment, would love to do something faster / more efficient but it's all 120V without doing a bunch of work.
-Dave
If you get them under 1000 watts and I can. you can use a buck boost transformer.
the key is stay under 1000 watts.
...But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable....
Even with the mods, unless you know something I don't, you still have to get 220V to wherever you want the heat.
I am using a modded S9 for heat in the back room of the condo at the moment, would love to do something faster / more efficient but it's all 120V without doing a bunch of work.
-Dave
Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard 2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th
[...]
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
The efficiency figures look good, but I'm sure for anyone just getting started, this would be a much bigger initial investment (since you brought up the Avalon Nano 3 price) and ~10x higher power bill, right? I don't fully get your point about the price.[...]
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
We should keep in mind that if someone's 'losing' money compared to DCA with a 29J/TH 100W Avalon, they're going to lose proportionally as much with a 29J/TH M50.
I.e. if you pay $15 in electricity for $9 in BTC with the Nano 3, you're at a -40% loss, but it's just 6 bucks; with 8x the power and hashrate, you pay $120 a month for $72 in BTC ($48 loss) - same proportionally, but a lot more real money 'lost' each month.
Absolutely have a large miner scaled back will be essentially worthless to many.
If you want to mine in your home and are over 20 cents usd a kwatt the Nano pointed to solo ckpool makes sense.
But if you want to stack coins with no kyc and have a need for heat a modded m50 or s19 is viable.
I have a s19 braiins controller from Altairtech.io
https://altairtech.io/product/bcb/
I have a s19 offline in home for testing and repair.
I will get it online today and start a thread tomorrow
I would play with it. It is set to high. does 2200 watts and its loud
but set freq to -15% and we will see what it will do.
I may show it off next week.
I may make 2 as I have a lot of m20S cases.
I think I have a spare psu.
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
but set freq to -15% and we will see what it will do.
I may show it off next week.
I may make 2 as I have a lot of m20S cases.
I think I have a spare psu.
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
That's what would be interesting, a solution with domestic miners in mind.
It is not to become rich or have a large source of profit, but to be able to collaborate with the network without a large investment or loss of money.
When you created this topic, let me know that I'll want to follow along!
Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard 2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th
[...]
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
The efficiency figures look good, but I'm sure for anyone just getting started, this would be a much bigger initial investment (since you brought up the Avalon Nano 3 price) and ~10x higher power bill, right? I don't fully get your point about the price.[...]
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
We should keep in mind that if someone's 'losing' money compared to DCA with a 29J/TH 100W Avalon, they're going to lose proportionally as much with a 29J/TH M50.
I.e. if you pay $15 in electricity for $9 in BTC with the Nano 3, you're at a -40% loss, but it's just 6 bucks; with 8x the power and hashrate, you pay $120 a month for $72 in BTC ($48 loss) - same proportionally, but a lot more real money 'lost' each month.
I checked out buying one it appeared to be 100+37 shipping+25tip = 162 usd
I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Can you just get these big industrial miners with not all boards populated? And what are the stats on these in terms of purchase price and power consumption per hashboard? Sounds like a good idea for home mining, if the reduced power draw / heat output means they can be run with lower fan speeds.I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Or would you piece them together from existing gear you already own as someone more experienced and equipped in mining stuff?
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.
If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.
Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
Okay I have a m50 with a dead dashboard 2200 watts and 75 th is 2200/75 = 29.3 watts a th
I would play with it. It is set to high. does 2200 watts and its loud
but set freq to -15% and we will see what it will do.
I may show it off next week.
I may make 2 as I have a lot of m20S cases.
I think I have a spare psu.
So with luck I end up with 2 one board m50's .
They will need 220-250 volt power
Maybe 28th at 800 watts
they would be a decent home miner.
I will start a thread on this in a week
I checked out buying one it appeared to be 100+37 shipping+25tip = 162 usd
I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Can you just get these big industrial miners with not all boards populated? And what are the stats on these in terms of purchase price and power consumption per hashboard? Sounds like a good idea for home mining, if the reduced power draw / heat output means they can be run with lower fan speeds.I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Or would you piece them together from existing gear you already own as someone more experienced and equipped in mining stuff?
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.
If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.
Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.
If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.
Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
If I get one I likely would do so only if I can point it to viabtc.
I would likely mine XEC not BTC.
Stack a few million XEC coins and trade them for btc
it is likely stupid
it likely will lose money but maybe XEC has a big move up.
They did already change it; I wrote about that on page 1. Lottery mining is definitely an option, or just mine 'at a loss' i.e. lose some $ compared to DCA, but help with decentralizing hashpower. See it as a cheap contribution to the stability of Bitcoin. Also consider you still 'get' the heat output, if you have a need for it.
If you live in a colder country, or in a colder region of the country, you will certainly enjoy it. But I live in an area of the country where, generally in winter, the lowest temperature is around 8-10º (during the day). And for example, a "heat wave" is expected next week, with temperatures expected to reach 24º in the middle of winter.
Therefore, it is rare to use a heater, which reduces the advantage this equipment would have.
Sure, you can stack those sats and sell them in the future when they're worth more, but then you could also just buy small portions of BTC every day.
That is true. How much Bitcoin could I earn by directly purchasing $15 per month of BTC; or how much BTC would collect in a month with mining having the same cost.About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
Exactly; that's true (even more true) with comparable devices, though. As shown in the efficiency chart from my original post, only the last few generations of industrial miners have a lower energy per hash ratio, i.e. higher hashrate per unit of power. And again, residential electricity prices suck, especially in Europe.BUT, you can see things differently. If you run the nano 3 at 65W, on a "solo pool", it will cost you 8.22$/month, and you will earn zero. However, if you find a block (you are a very lucky man) it will be ~4BTC instant.(after halving).
It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
I don't think it's possible to change the pool you see predefined on the equipment. At least for now.It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
I checked out buying one it appeared to be 100+37 shipping+25tip = 162 usd
I will likely run a 1 board s19 instead or a 2 board whatsminer m50
Sure, you can stack those sats and sell them in the future when they're worth more, but then you could also just buy small portions of BTC every day.
That is true. How much Bitcoin could I earn by directly purchasing $15 per month of BTC; or how much BTC would collect in a month with mining having the same cost.About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
Exactly; that's true (even more true) with comparable devices, though. As shown in the efficiency chart from my original post, only the last few generations of industrial miners have a lower energy per hash ratio, i.e. higher hashrate per unit of power. And again, residential electricity prices suck, especially in Europe.BUT, you can see things differently. If you run the nano 3 at 65W, on a "solo pool", it will cost you 8.22$/month, and you will earn zero. However, if you find a block (you are a very lucky man) it will be ~4BTC instant.(after halving).
It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
I don't think it's possible to change the pool you see predefined on the equipment. At least for now.It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
BUT, you can see things differently. If you run the nano 3 at 65W, on a "solo pool", it will cost you 8.22$/month, and you will earn zero. However, if you find a block (you are a very lucky man) it will be ~4BTC instant.(after halving).
It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
I don't think it's possible to change the pool you see predefined on the equipment. At least for now.
But, without a doubt, it is a different analytical perspective. If it is possible, it would even be interesting to try.
How much Bitcoin could I earn by directly purchasing $15 per month of BTC; or how much BTC would collect in a month with mining having the same cost.
About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
on coinwarz.com, you can calculate that, today, with 4TH/s you can earn ~700 sat /day. but it will turn to ~400sat/day after the halving in april.
you can use exchanges like crypto.com or Bybit that allow you to DCA with little amount. You can set the frequency, the amount, and the duration.
Now, 15bucks are approximately 35000 sats. it is better that 700x30 = 21000 sats with mining.
BUT, you can see things differently. If you run the nano 3 at 65W, on a "solo pool", it will cost you 8.22$/month, and you will earn zero. However, if you find a block (you are a very lucky man) it will be ~4BTC instant.(after halving).
It is a lottery ticket that run every 10 minutes.
Sure, you can stack those sats and sell them in the future when they're worth more, but then you could also just buy small portions of BTC every day.
That is true. How much Bitcoin could I earn by directly purchasing $15 per month of BTC; or how much BTC would collect in a month with mining having the same cost.
About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
yeah if kraken.com is allowed in your country you could put cash in say 100 euro every 4 months
buy 25 euro a month
do this for a year and pull the coins out 2 times a year.
Sure, you can stack those sats and sell them in the future when they're worth more, but then you could also just buy small portions of BTC every day.
That is true. How much Bitcoin could I earn by directly purchasing $15 per month of BTC; or how much BTC would collect in a month with mining having the same cost.
About 4TH would give you how much BTC currently, for an average month? So a few sums up, you get around 0.00024465 BTC / 9.62 USD. Less than buying directly.
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