Topic: AVALON Scam Accusation thread (Read 5920 times)

No sex with Bitcoin?
How do you know if Yifu isn't just having fun in Bangkok with the preorder coins?

http://www.bangkokhappytime.com

I have trade-ins still not put into my store account. 

8/26/2013.    Fed Ex tracking and signing proof can be given as well.


I am out ~$2000 in trade-ins asset.

Just because Y.I.F'd.U didn't scam all his customers doesn't mean he didn't scam his upgrade and bulk order victims.

CHIPS?

Here's a great place to report Yifu for mail fraud, commodity fraud, cyber crime, and many others.

http://www.stopfraud.gov/report.html

Take your pick, be creative!   

For Interpol, choose a country (or five) from here.

http://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/World

From what I read so many got their units and are happily hashing, and I thought scammers don't deliver at all.
Maybe poor business conduct, or lack of experience is to be blamed?

If only there was already a convenient document with all that information in a widely-used format like, say, .PDF.   

Scam? More like a REFUND required BOYCOTT started... and lawsuits in waiting.

https://sites.google.com/site/boycotavalon/

Just the Facts

Many of the community have invested in these chips at a time when AVALON had elevated themselves into arguably the top slot for BTC mining equipment. So far they have delivered 1 batch of chips to their "western" customer base and they were some 4 weeks overdue.

Their "No Bullshit" terms of sale have not been followed; sample/developer chips provided 4 weeks after payment of order didnt happen. Shipping of chips 9-10 weeks after payment didnt happen. They are clearly in violation of their own terms of sale and therefore must offer a full refund to those purchasers requesting such.


Whatever you have been told, their statement "No refunds" does not waive our statutory rights as consumers. I am a large shareholder in a group buy who have already requested a refund and have not received any reply. This is simply not acceptable from a company who has taken $millions of our money. Our group has realised that this 6+ week in delay and counting has effectively made the chips worthless to us.


If the majority of shareholders in group buys decide that they will be wasting more money for fabrication costs and having no chance of seeing a ROI, then perhaps, its time to demand a full REFUND from BitSyncom,  after all there are other companies which can likely deliver sooner and represent a more favourable investment.


I would urge all batch leaders to poll your group buy members and find out what THEY want, if a large number of group buy leaders request a refund, there will have to start addressing the issue. BitSyncom need to understand that they need to open up channels of communication and address this serious issue which affects hundreds if not thousands of consumers.


If this situation continues for much longer, the chips will not be worth their initial cost + development cost.

If you have any information about BitSyncom, full personal details,addresses (for legal communication), telephone numbers and e-mail addresses, Links to their personal media pages, personal future appointments at events (dates and locations), any info which will help to make contact, please post it on this thread.

Ahahaha. Aptly put sir.


If you've been on the Internet for about five minutes you'd know that threats of violence are always real and they come from every single idiot out there, especially when cruel reality takes a dump on his face.


Of the hundreds of scammers we've exposed over the years a good half came by in some shape or form (anonymous, of course!) threatening violence. That good half is still hundreds. Sadly we've not yet had the pleasure of actually having security beat the living crap out of some enterprising young fellow, but one can only hope for the future.

It's my belief that they have been making deals with shady groups in an attempt to improve their bottom line
As far as the threats of violence go, if they are real, my thoughts are that they are from rival shady groups, or from disgruntled customers.
In either case, based on the timing of events I would deduce that the threats are only recent.. like within this past week, and yifu has seen this as a golden opportunity to use it as an excuse for the mess that's been made.

Like when someone is running late to work.. and it's definitely the fault of traffic.. not the fact they left late to begin with.

But it's all speculation. The only thing we can confirm, is the existence of the chips, and their successful shipping to an international export/import specialist company.

   Update:

BTC from pre-orders was never spent.  Why-I-Eff-You may not have wallet access/control any longer.   

Photographic evidence of ~375k chips dates to early July, Why-I-Eff-You claims chips still in customs.   

All kinds of of sketchy FUD about greed, lies, conflict, and Triad assassins.  No sex though obviously, as this is still Bitcoin.   

Waste of time to send to the China addresses, you would be better sending to the local government.... IF you had their business registration details.

Can you or somebody please list those addresses.
Avalon failed to deliver 2 machines from batch 2, and refuse to answer emails/PMs/tickets/skype etc.

According to me that doesnt make sense. Its to late for Avalon to deliver 110nm within the trade-in promise.
To get now the promised trade-in would be a very bitter result.

What i see as realistic equilibrium, is that they deliver the next generation of devices for the unfortunate trade-ins as first with:

1. Warranty (at least 12 months)

2. CE Seal (for flawless delivery to CH)

3. 100% Support

Maybe this is wishfull thinking.
But i expect a company after a year of activity to be a bit more settled down.
At least in Switzerland a spoken contract has the same value as a written contract.
Mr. Chen has a list, and im quite sure they are very aware that trade-in's wasnt treated right.

Bump.  

Icoin, have you considered sending registered letters of demand to Avalon at their Chinese and Nevada locations?

Batch#2 is almost finished shipping. But as I know there is still no shipping information for trade-in customers.
How can they be trusted?

And now, it looks like they started shipping batch 3.

They said trade-ins will be shipped before batch 2 and the pricing will be same as batch 2 pricing (less the trade-in credits).

Go figure.

+1

A man who scammed a single person can be called a scammer.

For the customer who did not receive his miner, they ARE scammers.