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sr. member
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February 02, 2016, 09:12:14 AM
#26
Okay, thanks for reply! Smiley

Would it be possible to change the fans with quieter ones if you only run 1 blade in the enclousure?
You probably don't need the same kind of static pressure when there is only 1 heatsink to push air through?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 01, 2016, 10:41:13 PM
#25
How loud is it if you run it with just 1 blade installed?  Grin
 

The same  as the fan needs to spin up to 2500-3000 rpm  in order to keep the one blade cool.
















































Please ignore this:
Paid, on time this week. Hope we get back on track. Thx guys.

Thanks it is appreciated being on time from me aswell.  Hope we are back on track for smooth sailing again to.
don't worry guys I will notice the wallet if its out of fund a 3 days before payments so that Marco should fill it always before payments.

Regards,
Bitcoin Boy.

So I did what you said I sent a pm to marcotheminer  no reply .

 Was I paid for the month of Jan?

And I checked into the site no btc  so 1 phone call wasted and more time wasted here.

I would like my btc







Paid, on time this week. Hope we get back on track. Thx guys.

Thanks it is appreciated being on time from me aswell.  Hope we are back on track for smooth sailing again to.
don't worry guys I will notice the wallet if its out of fund a 3 days before payments so that Marco should fill it always before payments.

Regards,
Bitcoin Boy.

So I did what you said I sent a pm to marcotheminer  no reply .

 Was I paid for the month of Jan?

And I checked into the site no btc  so 1 phone call wasted and more time wasted here.

Sent a new pm both to marcotheminer and to Bitcoin_BOy$  this time you guys have not paid my 0.40 btc

This is my  btc addy   3AEyE5qs23yF3AEjKVxEbyJe4KawqUmBjv on bit-x.com

I would like my btc.

   I would like my btc .

  I make it a simple flat rate plan so there are no complications.

  I give 795 post last month far more then you want or ask for.  This is the second month you are late.

Show me the coin please.

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sr. member
Activity: 324
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February 01, 2016, 10:29:39 PM
#24
How loud is it if you run it with just 1 blade installed?  Grin
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 01, 2016, 06:57:58 PM
#23
This voids your warranty

I cut the seals everywhere and I un screw all screws








pull top off make sure all seals and labels are cut open

here is internal controller


re set button  brought my internal board back from the dead.

I powered on unit with top off and pressed the button counted to 10 and boom it worked again


controller removed


point of interest  this controller has 4 jacks for 4 boards and 2 jack for fans
thus running four boards on one controller may work
sr. member
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February 01, 2016, 06:55:21 PM
#22
Spacer to avoid double posting.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 01, 2016, 09:32:21 AM
#21
Okay the single board has been running okay. I thought I bricked the controller inside but I took it apart completely  and found it has a re set switch.


It is doing about 1600 gh

I set fans to 62  which keeps temps around 66c
When part comes today I will post tear down
and install of hash board along with location of re set switch


I also sent the dead board to sidehack maybe he can so something with it.



new board is in and works yeah

notice the hot board is 5 c higher




photos
Yan with good packing



pink bubble wrap antic static use it as a bed to assemble this




and a preinstalled heat sink

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
January 24, 2016, 09:12:58 PM
#20
Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?

(shortened post quite a bit)

I am not sure  what your question is.  the screen shot above is showing 3.5th  is that you?

I think hes asking what causes the lower then 3.5 area, I'm guessing he has not experienced it.   The most common reason I would say is the PSU puts out less then 12.0 volts.

Not all PSU's are the same on putting out exactly 12 or 12.1 even.  I have some EVGA's that worked great for everything else but with A6's they tend to be 11.9-12 most of time.

Yes, sorry for being unclear, i'm wondering why the hashrate varies so much. For example, it look like the first unit, in the screenshot (yes that is me) can do 3550 to 3650 depending on uncertain factors. While some units does 3.2 to 3.4 and the GUI still report 11.9v to 12.0v.

I am under the impressing these prefer running hot? because generally unit #1 does 3650 and the second one does 3550. But i am not sure why such a varriance&difference in hashrate and also temps, they are each using a EVGA G2 1300w.

Now the real problem i have right now is, if i set the minimum fan speed to 60, it fix the issue of the fan going from 2.5k to 5k all the time (i find it insanely annoying). The fan does 3-3.2k all the time which is great. But if i do that unit #1 seem to run too cool(?) and lose 100 GH/s?

I'm just trying to ascertain what is going on and see if someone has a workaround. Maybe controlling the fan of each miner individually?

leave the fans at 25 they will ramp up less.

since i have a 1/2 unit i will try a different fan and some other fun.

Out of curiosity what does the miner seem to run like that has 1/2 of boards now?  Does it seem to run fine just has only 1 board?

Was not sure with smartspeed what it was set to do if anything different when just 1 hashing unit.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 24, 2016, 05:49:44 PM
#19
Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?

(shortened post quite a bit)

I am not sure  what your question is.  the screen shot above is showing 3.5th  is that you?

I think hes asking what causes the lower then 3.5 area, I'm guessing he has not experienced it.   The most common reason I would say is the PSU puts out less then 12.0 volts.

Not all PSU's are the same on putting out exactly 12 or 12.1 even.  I have some EVGA's that worked great for everything else but with A6's they tend to be 11.9-12 most of time.

Yes, sorry for being unclear, i'm wondering why the hashrate varies so much. For example, it look like the first unit, in the screenshot (yes that is me) can do 3550 to 3650 depending on uncertain factors. While some units does 3.2 to 3.4 and the GUI still report 11.9v to 12.0v.

I am under the impressing these prefer running hot? because generally unit #1 does 3650 and the second one does 3550. But i am not sure why such a varriance&difference in hashrate and also temps, they are each using a EVGA G2 1300w.

Now the real problem i have right now is, if i set the minimum fan speed to 60, it fix the issue of the fan going from 2.5k to 5k all the time (i find it insanely annoying). The fan does 3-3.2k all the time which is great. But if i do that unit #1 seem to run too cool(?) and lose 100 GH/s?

I'm just trying to ascertain what is going on and see if someone has a workaround. Maybe controlling the fan of each miner individually?

leave the fans at 25 they will ramp up less.

since i have a 1/2 unit i will try a different fan and some other fun.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
January 24, 2016, 05:30:19 PM
#18
Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?

(shortened post quite a bit)

I am not sure  what your question is.  the screen shot above is showing 3.5th  is that you?

I think hes asking what causes the lower then 3.5 area, I'm guessing he has not experienced it.   The most common reason I would say is the PSU puts out less then 12.0 volts.

Not all PSU's are the same on putting out exactly 12 or 12.1 even.  I have some EVGA's that worked great for everything else but with A6's they tend to be 11.9-12 most of time.

Yes, sorry for being unclear, i'm wondering why the hashrate varies so much. For example, it look like the first unit, in the screenshot (yes that is me) can do 3550 to 3650 depending on uncertain factors. While some units does 3.2 to 3.4 and the GUI still report 11.9v to 12.0v.

I am under the impressing these prefer running hot? because generally unit #1 does 3650 and the second one does 3550. But i am not sure why such a varriance&difference in hashrate and also temps, they are each using a EVGA G2 1300w.

Now the real problem i have right now is, if i set the minimum fan speed to 60, it fix the issue of the fan going from 2.5k to 5k all the time (i find it insanely annoying). The fan does 3-3.2k all the time which is great. But if i do that unit #1 seem to run too cool(?) and lose 100 GH/s?

I'm just trying to ascertain what is going on and see if someone has a workaround. Maybe controlling the fan of each miner individually?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
January 24, 2016, 01:33:17 PM
#17
Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?

(shortened post quite a bit)

I am not sure  what your question is.  the screen shot above is showing 3.5th  is that you?

I think hes asking what causes the lower then 3.5 area, I'm guessing he has not experienced it.   The most common reason I would say is the PSU puts out less then 12.0 volts.

Not all PSU's are the same on putting out exactly 12 or 12.1 even.  I have some EVGA's that worked great for everything else but with A6's they tend to be 11.9-12 most of time.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 24, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
#16
This is where Avalon support stands out.  Well done by Block C.  Although, 1 thing I don't think is right is that Avalon 6 advertise the Hash rate at 3.5 to 3.65TH everywhere but most will only get between 3.2 to 3.4TH unless they risk it via Over volting to get the 3.7-3.9TH and void warranty.  If this was the case with the S7, everyone would be bitching and asking for compensation.  Why is no one asking for compensation for the Avalon 6?  My brother in law is not impress with Avalon 6 and after seeing this post, he stops trying to get a PSU for the over volting so he's just basically have a weak 3.2TH system.  300GH missing is almost 10% difference!

well I have paid for the replacement board.  I am awaiting the parts.

The replacement board which I was given a decent discount.

Plus one doa blue adpater which should be free as It arrived doa.

Once parts arrive I will post.



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Hey Philipma1957-

I know you don't normally perform software updates unless it fixes something from your posts in other threads, but was wondering if you had upgraded your Ras Pi to the latest image? (openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2708-sdcard-vfat-ext4.img   25-Dec-2015 03:37   76M)

Only reason I ask is I'm using Jabber/Finksy BB also, and the volts on the GUI read 11.8~11.9 now no matter what PSU I use. I have 32 DPS-2000BB PSUs and the same ones that I received a readout of 12.1~12.2 on the GUI before the update, now show 11.8~11.9. So I'm wondering if the software is reading low on the volts now? Instead of you running at 12.6, you could of actually been running a lot higher...

Just a thought from my observations. The LCD screen on my PSUs right now reads 12.35, but GUI shows 11.8



no stock 11-20 or so firmware.

my lcd screen reads 12.75 volts my gui read 12.4 to 12.7 on the three different avalon's

BTW  the back probe at the avalon side all read about 12.5 volts  as the voltage drops with the draw.







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I want to ask a question.I have connected my avolon miners but I have overloaded a line.The PSUs are burnt out and also a miner.Miner shows that boards do not have burnt chips but do not hash.What is the not hashing situation?Is it because of rasberry pi or is there a smd on the card?
If this not the appropriate topic pls send me a pm and I can delete my message.




if you post here


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=40.0


on the support board  I could try to troubleshoot what is wrong.






This is where Avalon support stands out.  Well done by Block C.  Although, 1 thing I don't think is right is that Avalon 6 advertise the Hash rate at 3.5 to 3.65TH everywhere but most will only get between 3.2 to 3.4TH unless they risk it via Over volting to get the 3.7-3.9TH and void warranty.  If this was the case with the S7, everyone would be bitching and asking for compensation.  Why is no one asking for compensation for the Avalon 6?  My brother in law is not impress with Avalon 6 and after seeing this post, he stops trying to get a PSU for the over volting so he's just basically have a weak 3.2TH system.  300GH missing is almost 10% difference!

You can get in the 3.2 to 3.4 area with 11.9. I bought an EVGA atx just so I was using same PSU's on both miners (I like to be tidy).   But they run 11.9-12.1 all seems to depend. Looking back I should have got some nice server ones instead.

Likely if you are using the "12V DC ±0.2V" I think you could get the 3.5T side of things around the 12.2 side.  But as everyone has seen you should not go above that.



Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?



I am not sure  what your question is.  the screen shot above is showing 3.5th  is that you?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
January 24, 2016, 08:31:05 AM
#15
This is where Avalon support stands out.  Well done by Block C.  Although, 1 thing I don't think is right is that Avalon 6 advertise the Hash rate at 3.5 to 3.65TH everywhere but most will only get between 3.2 to 3.4TH unless they risk it via Over volting to get the 3.7-3.9TH and void warranty.  If this was the case with the S7, everyone would be bitching and asking for compensation.  Why is no one asking for compensation for the Avalon 6?  My brother in law is not impress with Avalon 6 and after seeing this post, he stops trying to get a PSU for the over volting so he's just basically have a weak 3.2TH system.  300GH missing is almost 10% difference!

You can get in the 3.2 to 3.4 area with 11.9. I bought an EVGA atx just so I was using same PSU's on both miners (I like to be tidy).   But they run 11.9-12.1 all seems to depend. Looking back I should have got some nice server ones instead.

Likely if you are using the "12V DC ±0.2V" I think you could get the 3.5T side of things around the 12.2 side.  But as everyone has seen you should not go above that.



Is there a particular thing to do, to get 3.2 to 3.4THs? I get wildly different temps and different hashrate and no where near 3.4THs. Is it a overvolt thing only? I'm on ATX psu but i usually get 12.1v at the ui;



I see "smartspeed" is on, not sure if i need to do manual tuning or something?
sr. member
Activity: 331
Merit: 250
January 24, 2016, 06:03:59 AM
#14
I want to ask a question.I have connected my avolon miners but I have overloaded a line.The PSUs are burnt out and also a miner.Miner shows that boards do not have burnt chips but do not hash.What is the not hashing situation?Is it because of rasberry pi or is there a smd on the card?
If this not the appropriate topic pls send me a pm and I can delete my message.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
January 24, 2016, 01:03:41 AM
#13
This is where Avalon support stands out.  Well done by Block C.  Although, 1 thing I don't think is right is that Avalon 6 advertise the Hash rate at 3.5 to 3.65TH everywhere but most will only get between 3.2 to 3.4TH unless they risk it via Over volting to get the 3.7-3.9TH and void warranty.  If this was the case with the S7, everyone would be bitching and asking for compensation.  Why is no one asking for compensation for the Avalon 6?  My brother in law is not impress with Avalon 6 and after seeing this post, he stops trying to get a PSU for the over volting so he's just basically have a weak 3.2TH system.  300GH missing is almost 10% difference!

You can get in the 3.2 to 3.4 area with 11.9. I bought an EVGA atx just so I was using same PSU's on both miners (I like to be tidy).   But they run 11.9-12.1 all seems to depend. Looking back I should have got some nice server ones instead.

Likely if you are using the "12V DC ±0.2V" I think you could get the 3.5T side of things around the 12.2 side.  But as everyone has seen you should not go above that.

sr. member
Activity: 414
Merit: 251
January 23, 2016, 11:10:08 PM
#12
This is where Avalon support stands out.  Well done by Block C.  Although, 1 thing I don't think is right is that Avalon 6 advertise the Hash rate at 3.5 to 3.65TH everywhere but most will only get between 3.2 to 3.4TH unless they risk it via Over volting to get the 3.7-3.9TH and void warranty.  If this was the case with the S7, everyone would be bitching and asking for compensation.  Why is no one asking for compensation for the Avalon 6?  My brother in law is not impress with Avalon 6 and after seeing this post, he stops trying to get a PSU for the over volting so he's just basically have a weak 3.2TH system.  300GH missing is almost 10% difference!
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
January 23, 2016, 09:46:11 PM
#11
Hey Philipma1957-

I know you don't normally perform software updates unless it fixes something from your posts in other threads, but was wondering if you had upgraded your Ras Pi to the latest image? (openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2708-sdcard-vfat-ext4.img   25-Dec-2015 03:37   76M)

Only reason I ask is I'm using Jabber/Finksy BB also, and the volts on the GUI read 11.8~11.9 now no matter what PSU I use. I have 32 DPS-2000BB PSUs and the same ones that I received a readout of 12.1~12.2 on the GUI before the update, now show 11.8~11.9. So I'm wondering if the software is reading low on the volts now? Instead of you running at 12.6, you could of actually been running a lot higher...

Just a thought from my observations. The LCD screen on my PSUs right now reads 12.35, but GUI shows 11.8
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 23, 2016, 09:18:26 AM
#10
My gut feeling is that if only the cap had failed the board might still be working to some degree. More likely is that one or both the ASIC's on that node have gone Open Circuit which has resulted in an increased node voltage which has blown the cap? However well worth replacing the cap, would also check the 4.99 Ohm resistor that is across the Cap as that could have failed as well.


Rich

I have packed it for shipment to sidehack.  He can play with it.

I am getting a replacement board  at a slight discount from regular price.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
January 23, 2016, 02:21:37 AM
#9
My gut feeling is that if only the cap had failed the board might still be working to some degree. More likely is that one or both the ASIC's on that node have gone Open Circuit which has resulted in an increased node voltage which has blown the cap? However well worth replacing the cap, would also check the 4.99 Ohm resistor that is across the Cap as that could have failed as well.


Rich
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
January 23, 2016, 12:18:41 AM
#8
Yan will be sending me an avalon6 replacement board.  Not free of charge which is fair since I burned it from my stupidity.

He did give me a discount for running the group buy.  


So to all avalon6 owners  do not use a psu with more then 12.5 volts  and when you check the gui make sure it is under 12.3 volts


I want to thank Yan for the replacement part in advance.

.

Can you repair this thing? If you're lucky and only the cap is damaged it could be pretty straightforward to get working again?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 22, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
#7
Yan will be sending me an avalon6 replacement board.  Not free of charge which is fair since I burned it from my stupidity.

He did give me a discount for running the group buy. 


So to all avalon6 owners  do not use a psu with more then 12.5 volts  and when you check the gui make sure it is under 12.3 volts


I want to thank Yan for the replacement part in advance.

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