I saw that thread created against minerjones and knew something was up. Ain’t no way it was minerjones in that scandal I thought to myself. This stresses on reasons why, the forum pm should be made very active. It’s your one means to verifying for authenticity before taking whatever outside this space or concluding on whatever business outside the forum.
In a recent case, it also appears the user has another scheme of getting to compromise your on forum account. I just saw a thread on meta from Wordofcoin, in an attempt to recover stolen funds gives out sensitive security details of his/her forum account to the scammer and the scammer attempts to personalize the account.
For one and one reason only, try to be authentic and continue scamming. That’s to tell you how rusty this scammer. There isn’t no recovery of stolen funds and you’ve got to break tiles or risk further damage.
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The point of the story is, if you are not familiar with the newest spam/scam attacks, you might fall for it.
Those AI generated fake Elon videos looked pretty real to me too when I first saw them. I quickly noticed the scam when the fake was telling us to send coins to some address though.
We need to stay awake all the time.
Those AI generated fake Elon videos looked pretty real to me too when I first saw them. I quickly noticed the scam when the fake was telling us to send coins to some address though.
We need to stay awake all the time.
I guess forum members are a little more updated than average internet users. We see new types of scam accusations every few days and we get to know how they work. So this is one of the advantages of using the forum. But as you said, we have bad days and sometimes we fall for scams even though we know how these scams work. I did not see the specific AI-generated video you are talking about, but I have seen similar AI-generated videos where popular celebrities ask people to deposit to win something big. Average people are likely to fall for these scams.
I always have thought that it's impossible that I'll fall for such scam attempt but the timing was so bad and the attempt was so perfect that I was scammed. I still can't believe that I was scammed lol.
The number of scam attempts dramatically increased in the last couple of days. Nobody thinks they will fall for these scams, but the reality is, that a lot of experienced forum members fall for these scams and lose their money. Royse was one of them who also fell for the scam and I guess he posted that before. Telegram was heaven for scammers before but looks like the forum members are getting targeted at this moment. Everyone should be careful.
Same with the SMS and email spam attacks. Everyone thinks they can see through these scams all the time but we all have our bad days. Few months ago I received a fake SMS telling me that my package was delivered to a wrong address and I need to do something about it. Coincidentally, I was waiting a package and I clicked the link. Luckily I was on IOS and they were asking credit card details and I noticed it before I do something more stupid.
The point of the story is, if you are not familiar with the newest spam/scam attacks, you might fall for it.
Those AI generated fake Elon videos looked pretty real to me too when I first saw them. I quickly noticed the scam when the fake was telling us to send coins to some address though.
We need to stay awake all the time.
Get woke, don’t go broke. (I kid, fuck wokes)
Not that it would stop the scammer from trying other ways, but I think campaign managers who create bounty and signature campaign groups should take a step further to hide the group members list in the telegram group. Because once the scammer lands on such a group, it's gold for him. He will have access to member's TG handles (He will be knowing their forum usernames and probably which Bitcoin earning signature campaigns they are in). This will make it so easy for him to social engineer and land on a couple of potential victims.
I always have thought that it's impossible that I'll fall for such scam attempt but the timing was so bad and the attempt was so perfect that I was scammed. I still can't believe that I was scammed lol.
The number of scam attempts dramatically increased in the last couple of days. Nobody thinks they will fall for these scams, but the reality is, that a lot of experienced forum members fall for these scams and lose their money. Royse was one of them who also fell for the scam and I guess he posted that before. Telegram was heaven for scammers before but looks like the forum members are getting targeted at this moment. Everyone should be careful.
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Nobody ever tries to scam me. I'm feeling left out.
Nobody ever tries to scam me. I'm feeling left out.
They probably know it's not worth their time.
It's been a long time since anyone tried to scam me on Telegram, but I still get the hotties sending "hello" messages from time to time.
Years ago, someone tried this scam on me pretending to Condoras. Then about a year later someone accused me of scamming them, and it turned out to be an imposter. At that time they were using handles that were slightly misspelled, but now it seems like these scammers have gotten a little more sophisticated.
The simple solution is to never have any transactions on Telegram, ever. Even if it's more convenient for the conversation, that's all that it should be used for. All pertinent data should be sent via PM here on the forum, and signed with a staked key of one sort or another.
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He said we could use @shasan as a escrower and created a group chat with me, him, and fake-shasan. Something interesting is that shasan's real telegram handler shasan32 was in the fake-shasan's bio and I couldn't see his actual handler. Someone would probably see that and think it's the real shasan32 because the @ handler matches, but when clicking on it, it takes me to a different user chat. I saw for a brief moment his real handler (?) which was tommy something.
He said we could use @shasan as a escrower and created a group chat with me, him, and fake-shasan. Something interesting is that shasan's real telegram handler shasan32 was in the fake-shasan's bio and I couldn't see his actual handler. Someone would probably see that and think it's the real shasan32 because the @ handler matches, but when clicking on it, it takes me to a different user chat. I saw for a brief moment his real handler (?) which was tommy something.
It is indeed a bit crafty because unless you know how Telegram works, you might not stop to consider that the scammer's username is actually hidden. This is what the real shasan's TG profile looks like:
Here you can clearly see an extra field titled "Username" which isn't displayed in the screenshot of the scammer profile.
Nobody ever tries to scam me. I'm feeling left out.
Is it "Free Market Capitalist"? 
No, it's just two characters. And not that it is now, it was also when I had big fights with my friend here, who I don't know why he still thinks I have alts to harass him or something.
Congrats on the name change.
Thank you, I thought it would suit more my personality on the forum.
Congrats on the name change.
The thing I hate about telegram the most is not the app itself, it's fine, but it being a magnet for idiots who trade safety for the perceived "convenience". They'd get scammed on anything, telegram just happens to be sufficiently "free speech" and "anonymous" for scammers.
The thing I hate about telegram the most is not the app itself, it's fine, but it being a magnet for idiots who trade safety for the perceived "convenience". They'd get scammed on anything, telegram just happens to be sufficiently "free speech" and "anonymous" for scammers.
It seems to me that it may not be wrong in some cases, as if you want to contact someone or be in a group without them knowing your phone number but if you want to make a deal with some forum member is totally unnecessary and risky. You and I made a deal and we didn't use it. If we wanted to do the same privately we could have communicated with PMs here but with signed messages to guarantee authenticity.
For the record: I'm going to put this section and the P&S section back on ignore for a while, I'm doing better on the forum without coming to those sections too much and without wasting so much energy.
I don't think it's a fake story, this is really happening.
I got contacted by "Adventurous" on Telegram, same user mentioned by worldofcoins in this topic, about a P2P deal USDT <> BTC. Of course I knew it was a scam, but was curious about his fake escrower.
He said we could use @shasan as a escrower and created a group chat with me, him, and fake-shasan. Something interesting is that shasan's real telegram handler shasan32 was in the fake-shasan's bio and I couldn't see his actual handler. Someone would probably see that and think it's the real shasan32 because the @ handler matches, but when clicking on it, it takes me to a different user chat. I saw for a brief moment his real handler (?) which was tommy something.
I got busy so stopped replying to this clown, so he deleted everything.
I got contacted by "Adventurous" on Telegram, same user mentioned by worldofcoins in this topic, about a P2P deal USDT <> BTC. Of course I knew it was a scam, but was curious about his fake escrower.
He said we could use @shasan as a escrower and created a group chat with me, him, and fake-shasan. Something interesting is that shasan's real telegram handler shasan32 was in the fake-shasan's bio and I couldn't see his actual handler. Someone would probably see that and think it's the real shasan32 because the @ handler matches, but when clicking on it, it takes me to a different user chat. I saw for a brief moment his real handler (?) which was tommy something.
I got busy so stopped replying to this clown, so he deleted everything.
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Good catch Nutildah. This indeed confirms that the scammer was able to impersonate two members who provide the escrow service, namely minerjones and bittawm (noting that the latter was last active on August 22, 2023) and the scammer deceived the members and used two wallet addresses involved in these two crimes. More members provide escrow services, so it is clear that the scammer may attempt to impersonate their accounts as well, and I hope he fails to do so.It is worth noting that account impersonation is common on Telegram and since I also provide the BPTRADES escrow service, many have tried before to impersonate my official account. Still, I quickly identified and removed them from the official group and banned their accounts. The principle remains the same: ADMINS NEVER DM FIRST AND NEVER REQUEST MONEY FROM ANYONE. They also need to verify by sending a message to the escrow provider’s account on the forum. Everyone should verify the official Telegram ID of the escrow provider and be cautious of this devious strategy, as highlighted in this topic: > 🛑 Be aware from these type of scammer 🚫 ☠
Just want to point out that the same scammer has hit two people now. The address mentioned in the scam accusation against Bittawm is the same one mentioned by worldofcoins, so their story is likely to be genuine.
From worldofcoins' locked thread:
So I don't think worldofcoins made up the accusation. In any case, I hope these two incidents are a reminder to all to stay extra vigilant when it comes to conducting deals off-forum.
I did a small search, and it’s clear that the scammer's wallet, TDabETSNoQzV3JcXQjuLyN19dTa7baaWxJ, which you sent the USDT to, transferred the funds to the following wallet address: TRESNhy3ETk4Wye4L88RnDwjsUVrm67We9. [Explorer]
As you can see, if you check the address to which the scammer sent the USDT in full [Explorer], it’s clear that it is a wallet to which funds are being withdrawn via exchanges like MEXC. Have you tried contacting customer service for this exchange to find out what they can do to return your money if the scammer uses their exchange?
As you can see, if you check the address to which the scammer sent the USDT in full [Explorer], it’s clear that it is a wallet to which funds are being withdrawn via exchanges like MEXC. Have you tried contacting customer service for this exchange to find out what they can do to return your money if the scammer uses their exchange?
From worldofcoins' locked thread:
So I don't think worldofcoins made up the accusation. In any case, I hope these two incidents are a reminder to all to stay extra vigilant when it comes to conducting deals off-forum.
While we're on the subject, and for the record: I will not talk to anyone on the forum EVER on Telegram. In fact I don't even have it installed atm. The only exception is if a campaign manager or someone requires me to communicate with them there beforehand. Please, a DT to leave a neutral tag in my profile about it.
That way, it will be clear if someone says that I'm sending PMs by Telegram to companies to tell them to work with this or that manager or to stop working, that either they are making it up or it has been another impersonating me. In fact, my nick on Telegram is far from being “Poker Player” or something similar.
That way, it will be clear if someone says that I'm sending PMs by Telegram to companies to tell them to work with this or that manager or to stop working, that either they are making it up or it has been another impersonating me. In fact, my nick on Telegram is far from being “Poker Player” or something similar.
Is it "Free Market Capitalist"?
Congrats on the name change.
The thing I hate about telegram the most is not the app itself, it's fine, but it being a magnet for idiots who trade safety for the perceived "convenience". They'd get scammed on anything, telegram just happens to be sufficiently "free speech" and "anonymous" for scammers.
Which in the case of worldofcoins makes it also impossible to prove it one way or another. It could be the idiot getting scammed for real, or it could be said idiot making it up (not sure to what end though).
I mean why would anyone send me his exchange userpass, seed phrases, private key and everything? Very suspicious.. 
it's an old scam. that wallet probably has some USDT, and he's counting on your greed to tempt you into stealing the coins by funding the wallet to pay for fees.but the moment you send anything, a bot will move the ETH or TRX it to another wallet.
check out these two topics for more details on how it works:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/take-money-170000-5407489
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/take-money-part2-5522030
Using telegram for anything serious is like asking for trouble, so you shouldn't be surprised if some lowlifes are trying to scam and impersonate other members.
That is why I don't use telegram and anyone claiming to be dkbit98 on telegram is a scammer.
It's funny that each telegram user also have unique ID number but this is not shown in public.
That is why I don't use telegram and anyone claiming to be dkbit98 on telegram is a scammer.
It's funny that each telegram user also have unique ID number but this is not shown in public.
From the locked scam accusation thread:
Obviously not him... he acknowledges talking with both "minerjones" and "minorjones"... how could he not know which one was the scammer?
BTW, I like Telegram quite a bit. Its extremely straight-forward and easy to use. In 2025 you'd have to be a moron to get scammed there.
I had just posted this days earlier in the now-locked forum escrows thread:
Also, minerjones has said this exact same thing at least a dozen times over the years; why somebody would plow through with a trade deal off-forum is beyond me:
My private chat with you "@minorjones", yes with you, prior our trade in group, you deleted that too, and when i contacted you to the same username, you deleted every message and blocked me out. Seriously?
Obviously not him... he acknowledges talking with both "minerjones" and "minorjones"... how could he not know which one was the scammer?
BTW, I like Telegram quite a bit. Its extremely straight-forward and easy to use. In 2025 you'd have to be a moron to get scammed there.
I had just posted this days earlier in the now-locked forum escrows thread:
Even though its probably been stated in this thread before, as a reminder:
ONLY CONDUCT ESCROW TRANSACTIONS ON THE FORUM
A few rules that anyone attempting to trade on the forum should abide by:
1. Ask for a personalized signed message from a PGP key or Bitcoin address previously associated with the user. Make sure the escrow has used the PGP key or address before, and it isn't a new key/address made by the scammer.
2. Don't use Telegram or other off-forum communication platforms for escrow deals! Do every part of the deal on forum, via PM or better yet, its own thread.
3. Ask around about the quality and availability of escrows before settling on one, as the first post in this thread hasn't been updated for over 4 years. That's like 40 years in forum time, meaning everything could have changed between now and then. You can even ask in this thread and someone will probably get back to you (don't trust the word of new or minimally-ranked accounts, of course).
ONLY CONDUCT ESCROW TRANSACTIONS ON THE FORUM
A few rules that anyone attempting to trade on the forum should abide by:
1. Ask for a personalized signed message from a PGP key or Bitcoin address previously associated with the user. Make sure the escrow has used the PGP key or address before, and it isn't a new key/address made by the scammer.
2. Don't use Telegram or other off-forum communication platforms for escrow deals! Do every part of the deal on forum, via PM or better yet, its own thread.
3. Ask around about the quality and availability of escrows before settling on one, as the first post in this thread hasn't been updated for over 4 years. That's like 40 years in forum time, meaning everything could have changed between now and then. You can even ask in this thread and someone will probably get back to you (don't trust the word of new or minimally-ranked accounts, of course).
Also, minerjones has said this exact same thing at least a dozen times over the years; why somebody would plow through with a trade deal off-forum is beyond me:
I can confirm that is not me on Telegram
I do not deal in forum auctions/sales outside this site... especially ones that are not mine.
I do not deal in forum auctions/sales outside this site... especially ones that are not mine.
While we're on the subject, and for the record: I will not talk to anyone on the forum EVER on Telegram. In fact I don't even have it installed atm. The only exception is if a campaign manager or someone requires me to communicate with them there beforehand. Please, a DT to leave a neutral tag in my profile about it.
That way, it will be clear if someone says that I'm sending PMs by Telegram to companies to tell them to work with this or that manager or to stop working, that either they are making it up or it has been another impersonating me. In fact, my nick on Telegram is far from being “Poker Player” or something similar.
That way, it will be clear if someone says that I'm sending PMs by Telegram to companies to tell them to work with this or that manager or to stop working, that either they are making it up or it has been another impersonating me. In fact, my nick on Telegram is far from being “Poker Player” or something similar.
I would have never traded with anyone if it was from off forum, specially not through telegram and discord. It's filled with creepy disgusting scammers. Although I use telegram for my day to day activities, I never used it as financial medium. I really hate that, it's so easy to impersonate someone at telegram. I would rather use the forums escrow service providers, or use SimpleX to contact people. It's safe that way.
There was even a time, when a scammers purposely sent my a unsolicited PM in my telegram with his exchange user pass, seed phrases (I have no idea why or what kind of scam technique that was). I never dared to peek or dig those credentials.
I mean why would anyone send me his exchange userpass, seed phrases, private key and everything? Very suspicious..
There was even a time, when a scammers purposely sent my a unsolicited PM in my telegram with his exchange user pass, seed phrases (I have no idea why or what kind of scam technique that was). I never dared to peek or dig those credentials.
I mean why would anyone send me his exchange userpass, seed phrases, private key and everything? Very suspicious..
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This topic is not dedicated to the specific member which you will discover after visiting the references, I really do not want to keep this discussion restricted to one user because this can be portrait by anyone and we need to be aware of it.
Case one: minerjones was accused of scamming.
Case two: I was accused of alt
While with the accusation against minerjones (case one) I cannot know 100% but with the accusation against me (case two) I am 100% that it's fake and portraited by the accuser. Considering the lead, I do not see why the case against minerjones were not portraited too. it's also fake.
In my case, the accuser obviously had/have control of the account CryptoGoonie, he posted something and then deleted it so that he can create a suspense and hook me in it. Failed obviously.
In the case of minerjones scammed him, it can be portrayed easily like following:
1. He created a fake telegram impersonating minerjones
2. He and other person (that other person can be him too) joined with the newly created minerjones Telegram.
3. The screenshot (Forum PM) that was shared or told that it was shared from fake minerjones telegram, is sent from fake minerjones to the accuser.
Everything was done by one person there were no person like 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Case one: minerjones was accused of scamming.
Case two: I was accused of alt
While with the accusation against minerjones (case one) I cannot know 100% but with the accusation against me (case two) I am 100% that it's fake and portraited by the accuser. Considering the lead, I do not see why the case against minerjones were not portraited too. it's also fake.
In my case, the accuser obviously had/have control of the account CryptoGoonie, he posted something and then deleted it so that he can create a suspense and hook me in it. Failed obviously.
In the case of minerjones scammed him, it can be portrayed easily like following:
1. He created a fake telegram impersonating minerjones
2. He and other person (that other person can be him too) joined with the newly created minerjones Telegram.
3. The screenshot (Forum PM) that was shared or told that it was shared from fake minerjones telegram, is sent from fake minerjones to the accuser.
Everything was done by one person there were no person like 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
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