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jr. member
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Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.




Nicehash a little with older PC
Zpool yes
MPH only for some specific coins without convert
Ahaspool yes
Hash Refinery NOT
ZergPool NOT
Mining Dutch Absolutely NOT
Blazepool and Block Masters ... I have not tried them

Yiimp.eu, BSOD... and some more for especific coins.


in addition, the more you enable, the more hashrate you distribute among them, means longer wait for payout ...etc, of course, it's not a problem if you have enough hashpower to mitigate that. But a hobby miner, forget about it.

Your problem with mining dutch is probably the predefined used high diff ports (some nicehash ports even) in the online services, so...naturally, you don't find shares as often...you can manually change them to the vardiff ports or even low diff if you have mid-tier hardware/rigs setup.

**Just a hobby Miner**
< 10 GPU (Statistics, 24h actual, adjust checked, switch interval threshold as you see fit but probably 10m/3~5%)

stick with your favourite auto-exchange pools, GorDiE gives a good choice

**Imagining you're a surfer, riding difficulty waves and get the most out of it, not for tech faint hearted**
Personally for non-autoexchangers only and ppl with >10 GPU (hashrate of GTX 1060 or GTX 1070 on average) (statistics, Current, no Adjust, 5m/5~15%)(User Defined pool groups recommended, avoid PPLNT, PPLNS, most yiimps are PROP, must use soothaa's plugin or similar, must use rule to manual profit switch based on revenue/profit)

NiceHash - Yes (it's PPS, and works well with occassional dual mine Ethash coins, less hassel to setup those 2nd tier dual algos, you hash slow one 2ndary, no need to try accumulate them fast as they don't for small time miners)
Everything Else - No (Use pool groups)

**imagining you're occasional adventurous type who likes to gamble your luck a bit**
Auto-Exchangers and minimal effort > 20 GPU (hashrate of GTX 1060 or GTX 1070 on average) (just hypothesising, I don't fit in here, 24h estimate, adjust uncheck, switch 10m/3~5%)

Hash on any predefined pools you like since reaching minimum payout isn't an issue and stick with ones that works for you in terms of how much you trust them (in simple words, if you reckon pools are scamming your or stealing your hashrate and doing dishonest payout conversions, just avoid them, due to variation of mining luck/difficulty, ppl tends to have quite a varying opionions about which one is the best..so best that you take them with a grain of salt and decide for yourself after trying them out personally)



I Actually Have 68 GPUs 8 Rigs
20XRX 580 2 Rigs
16X1070 2 Rigs
8X1070ti
8X1080ti
8X1080
8XVEGA 56

I just Checked the Adjust today i am on switch 10m/5%.  Im looking to keep it as simple and as possible even if its a little more to congfig initially.  What I have going on now seems like a shit show thats impossible to really track.  Gonna start by disabling a few.  
I appreciate the insight and experience

newbie
Activity: 37
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Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.




I have had a lot of different issues, but the one issue that continues to cause problems is only with Mining Dutch. I have completely abandoned Mining Dutch for this reason. They have a decent site, but a lot of javascript on your site does not make up for poor mining and low profit.

I personally don't see the issue people have with hash refinery. I had an issue with them in the past, but it was easily solved with good advice from this forum. Hash Refinery is one of the easiest sites to reach a payout.

Currently my favorite pools offered by default from Awesome Miner are Blazepool, hash refinery, zpool, and mining pool hub.

Ahashpool and zergpool are both good sites and I have received payments from both, but I only use them with my more serious hardware because they seem to take much longer to reach payout even when Awesome Miner is reporting them to be the most profitable. At least zergpool offers Litecoin payments now...

I recommend that you do as much experimenting as you can.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.




i think if your hashing power is low your better off sticking to 1 or 2 pools to enable yourself to get payouts without having to wait forever. ive had the best luck with zergpool and mining pool hub getting paid out in LTC. i have 2 1070 and a 1050 ti making about $3.50 a day which is what online services says i should when set to 24 hour actual.
jr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 5
Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.




Nicehash a little with older PC
Zpool yes
MPH only for some specific coins without convert
Ahaspool yes
Hash Refinery NOT
ZergPool NOT
Mining Dutch Absolutely NOT
Blazepool and Block Masters ... I have not tried them

Yiimp.eu, BSOD... and some more for especific coins.


in addition, the more you enable, the more hashrate you distribute among them, means longer wait for payout ...etc, of course, it's not a problem if you have enough hashpower to mitigate that. But a hobby miner, forget about it.

Your problem with mining dutch is probably the predefined used high diff ports (some nicehash ports even) in the online services, so...naturally, you don't find shares as often...you can manually change them to the vardiff ports or even low diff if you have mid-tier hardware/rigs setup.

**Just a hobby Miner**
< 10 GPU (Statistics, 24h actual, adjust checked, switch interval threshold as you see fit but probably 10m/3~5%)

stick with your favourite auto-exchange pools, GorDiE gives a good choice

**Imagining you're a surfer, riding difficulty waves and get the most out of it, not for tech faint hearted**
Personally for non-autoexchangers only and ppl with >10 GPU (hashrate of GTX 1060 or GTX 1070 on average) (statistics, Current, no Adjust, 5m/5~15%)(User Defined pool groups recommended, avoid PPLNT, PPLNS, most yiimps are PROP, must use soothaa's plugin or similar, must use rule to manual profit switch based on revenue/profit)

NiceHash - Yes (it's PPS, and works well with occassional dual mine Ethash coins, less hassel to setup those 2nd tier dual algos, you hash slow one 2ndary, no need to try accumulate them fast as they don't for small time miners)
Everything Else - No (Use pool groups)

**imagining you're occasional adventurous type who likes to gamble your luck a bit**
Auto-Exchangers and minimal effort > 20 GPU (hashrate of GTX 1060 or GTX 1070 on average) (just hypothesising, I don't fit in here, 24h estimate, adjust uncheck, switch 10m/3~5%)

Hash on any predefined pools you like since reaching minimum payout isn't an issue and stick with ones that works for you in terms of how much you trust them (in simple words, if you reckon pools are scamming your or stealing your hashrate and doing dishonest payout conversions, just avoid them, due to variation of mining luck/difficulty, ppl tends to have quite a varying opionions about which one is the best..so best that you take them with a grain of salt and decide for yourself after trying them out personally)

jr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 5
Is there any way to prevent switching different pools on the same algo?  I find that sometimes pools play ping-pong with each other on the same algo, which results in more miner downtime. I can mitigate the problem a bit by setting a higher switching threshold %, but I find this still happens fairly often.

Are you talking about switching pools/coins on the same algo that happens on Yiimp pools like Zerg, zpool, ahash...etc?

if so, there's nothing you can do, Yiimp choses the coin to mine and converts the coin to coins specified in your password parameter c=XXX

Mining on multiport means giving away your freedom of choice, yes, the mc=XXX on zergpool doesn't work (least a month ago when I used it), that's how Yiimp works. Setting individual pools on multiport Yiimps also don't work, the Online Services reported metrics overrides your custom coin stats even if you have disabled it.

For example, instead of using online services, you have GoByte setup on zPool, you set the parameter c=GBX and thought everything was okay, you did the same for INN, now, their profitability gets override by zPool's Profit (current, 24h estimate, 24 actual) and regardless what your coins tab is reporting correct figure say, GoByte @ $1.5 a day, INN at $1.0 a day, your details tab tells you both @ $1.5 a day, which is derived from zPool's figure and not Coins Tab figure...

While I love to see more pools added as predefined pools, this issue remains my biggest problem, and a problem for all coin collectors, it's perfect for ppl who just want to set and forget and let pool do all the auto exchange. But not if you want to HODL and unload as you see fit yourself. So in the end, you need to just find pools with individual ports to avoid situation such as the above from happening, and there are compromises you have to make, due to less (noob) miners, hashrates are lower and blocks takes longer (if not forever if you really chose a ghost pool) to find, that takes a good hit on profit.

I'd strongly advocate against adding more pools to predefined Online Services unless we users have a choice on which metric (Coins Individual, or Yiimp-Pool reported) takes precedence over each other when determining profit (to me, it's a clear bug, since how can you have different coins such as GBX and INN, DSR, NYX, TZC, VIVO...etc. all having the same exact profit? you can't! Resulting in 2 miners mining this, 3 miners running another...etc. It's quite a sight to see, but a truely miners gone nuts when you looked at the AM window when such thing happens) . Or just skip Yiimp pools altogether as they are added to AM by default. Luckily, only those Yiimp pools with autoexchange are added to AM and not the ones that have disabled it (please don't add those, I'll be forced to migrate like a nomad).

***
sorry about the rant, but I deem totally relevant and just telling you my experience that if your problem is how I understands it, hope it saves you time not to fiddle around with these multiport auto-exchange yiimps cause it would at current stage, be wasted effort.
newbie
Activity: 162
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Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.




Nicehash a little with older PC
Zpool yes
MPH only for some specific coins without convert
Ahaspool yes
Hash Refinery NOT
ZergPool NOT
Mining Dutch Absolutely NOT
Blazepool and Block Masters ... I have not tried them

Yiimp.eu, BSOD... and some more for especific coins.
jr. member
Activity: 61
Merit: 2
Just a pol how many of the profit switching pools do you use? We have 9 Pre-configured.

Does anyone use them all set and forget kinda?

Is there any statistical best practices?

If not using a particular one why?

Im not using Mining Dutch Ive had alot of issue like shares not found for extended periods and once i enabled "adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance".  All my rigs were showing less than $1 per card or about 6-8 per day  on 1070 1080 and 1070ti . Yet the profit profile still showed most profitable.  I guess Id like to just use as few as possible for simpler management and reporting but also dont want to leave money on the table.


newbie
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Is there any way to prevent switching different pools on the same algo?  I find that sometimes pools play ping-pong with each other on the same algo, which results in more miner downtime. I can mitigate the problem a bit by setting a higher switching threshold %, but I find this still happens fairly often.
jr. member
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AM is not giving correctly all parameters to excavator miner. Here is example:

if i want to mine lyra2v2 with AM using excavator, standard string made by AM will be this: {"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["lyra2rev2","lyra2v2.mine.zergpool.com:4533","btc_address:c=BTC"]}
if i want to use custom string with additional settings for difficulty, specified in AM software settings window, it will be like this: lyra2rev2 -p c=BTC,d=0.2

here is what AM is giving to excavator: {"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["lyra2rev2 -p c=BTC,d=0.2","lyra2v2.mine.zergpool.com:4533","my_btc_address:c=BTC"]}

Excavator will get stuck with this string "lyra2rev2 -p c=BTC,d=0.2", so correct way is to send all that info to excavator is to send everything only BEFORE first space to first string (algo).
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
i see there is 4.7.3 update and also want to know whats the best option to mine using online services static settings: Current, 24 hour avarage estimate or 24 hour avarage actual?
There are probably many opinions on this. In general, Current should be the best, but it can result in a little higher estimates than what you actually get paid for.
Is this really true? I ask because when I switch to current, Awesome Miner switches between algos/pools so often that the earnings (In the earnings column on pools.) that show in my pools are almost nothing.... (there are more earnings shown and they are more spread out across my pools) but the earnings are very low.

However, even when I use the default setting of 24 hour estimate, my earnings still seem not right.... For my test rig alone, Awesome Miner typically (with statistics set to 24 hour estimate and the "Adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance." box checked) will still show a per day profit between $5 to $6. And because there are so many variables, I have been using a separate payment address for just my test rig.... but when I look at my actual earnings in Awesome Miner (total unpaid coin, not USD, YES I AM ACCOUNTING FOR DIPS IN PRICE!), I am seeing something closer to $1.50 to $3 per day...

At this point, I am honestly starting to believe that it would be more profitable to just use Awesome Miner with Nicehash so I can use more up to date miners.


Any suggestions would be welcome.
It's also recommended to set a Threshold to reduce the too frequent changes. You can also test with not having too short profit switching intervals as well.

There is also a quite new feature to adjust the profitability for the Yiimp pools based on their actual performance over the last few days. When enabled, Awesome Miner will show lower profit estimations, but they might be a bit more realistic. Please see "Adjust reported revenue" at the bottom of this page:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/coinstats.aspx


 Undecided  If you read my comment... I am using "Adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance.". I have been using it since you added that.

Also, my profit switching interval is set to 5 minutes with a threshold of 3%
newbie
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patrike could you please make it possible for AM to save the pool coins from "Define Pool coin" option? I would really love that Smiley
legendary
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i see there is 4.7.3 update and also want to know whats the best option to mine using online services static settings: Current, 24 hour avarage estimate or 24 hour avarage actual?
There are probably many opinions on this. In general, Current should be the best, but it can result in a little higher estimates than what you actually get paid for.
Is this really true? I ask because when I switch to current, Awesome Miner switches between algos/pools so often that the earnings (In the earnings column on pools.) that show in my pools are almost nothing.... (there are more earnings shown and they are more spread out across my pools) but the earnings are very low.

However, even when I use the default setting of 24 hour estimate, my earnings still seem not right.... For my test rig alone, Awesome Miner typically (with statistics set to 24 hour estimate and the "Adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance." box checked) will still show a per day profit between $5 to $6. And because there are so many variables, I have been using a separate payment address for just my test rig.... but when I look at my actual earnings in Awesome Miner (total unpaid coin, not USD, YES I AM ACCOUNTING FOR DIPS IN PRICE!), I am seeing something closer to $1.50 to $3 per day...

At this point, I am honestly starting to believe that it would be more profitable to just use Awesome Miner with Nicehash so I can use more up to date miners.


Any suggestions would be welcome.
It's also recommended to set a Threshold to reduce the too frequent changes. You can also test with not having too short profit switching intervals as well.

There is also a quite new feature to adjust the profitability for the Yiimp pools based on their actual performance over the last few days. When enabled, Awesome Miner will show lower profit estimations, but they might be a bit more realistic. Please see "Adjust reported revenue" at the bottom of this page:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/coinstats.aspx
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
SRBMiner Cryptonight AMD GPU Miner for All Your CryptoNight Needs

Supported CryptoNight variations:
– Cryptonight
– Cryptonight V7
– Cryptonight Lite
– Cryptonight Lite V7
– Cryptonight Heavy
– Cryptonight UltraHeavy
Once this mining software get an API (monitoring interface) where Awesome Miner can connect - it can get supported if it's also popular.
legendary
Activity: 3346
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This only happens on one of my 18 remote managed miners. The DSTM miner (zm) is running with no console window from the ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder, which is a duplicate folder of %appdata%\AwesomeMiner. If I upgrade the Remote agent it upgrades the ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder but not  folder %appdata%\AwesomeMiner.

Then if I delete the duplicate ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder and uninstall/re-install the Remote Agent,  the  folder %appdata%\AwesomeMiner is created and the miner runs with console window as normal. But after a few restarts the duplicate ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder is somehow created again. Then I am back to running the miner without console window.
Are you running both Remote Agent and the Remote Service (Windows Service) at the same time? Please open the Remote Service Configuration Tool (see http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/remoteagent.aspx) and make sure that the first section "Service Status" indicates "Service not installed". If not, stop it and uninstall it using the buttons.

If you launch mining software from a Windows service, the console window will not be visible as a Windows service never can make anything show on the desktop.
legendary
Activity: 3346
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I can't log in to any Suprnova pool now.  Supernova logins consist of Weblogin.Worker but only the Weblogin is being passed on the command line.  This used to work, did something break in the latest releases?  I don't know what else the problem could be, I haven't changed anything that I know of.
Please share additional details about how the pool and miner is configured, and also the Diagnostics output that highlights the issue.
newbie
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Hello Patrike,

I had a rig that for some reason can not upgrade to the 4.7.3 remote service.  It can't be uninstalled manually because it says it's not installed... though it's still running, AM can't control the rig.  I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling both services with the Remote Service Configuration tool, but that doesn't seem to do any good.  When I try to manually install the new 4.7.3 MSI it says it can't find a noteservice.msi to complete the uninstallation of the old 4.7.2 service.  I've look on my other rigs that did upgrade successfully, but this MSI is no where to be found.

Are there any manual steps to uninstallation/cleanup of the remote service from a rig so I can start fresh?
Hi,

Please check out this tool from Microsoft that can be used when a MSI-based installer isn't behaving as it should - and this can be used to force a removal:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17588/fix-problems-that-block-programs-from-being-installed-or-removed


Hello Patrike,

That fixed it so I could install the 4.7.3 remote service.  I had to give it the option to not stop the services and reboot, as the first attempt to stop the services failed again after running that Microsoft tool.  After the successful install of the remote service, I still couldn't couldn't control the rig... ran diagnostics and it said that it couldn't find the mining software.  So I went back to the rig to reset the folders in Windows Defender... I've had to do this before.  Weird thing was that Defender wasn't running.  It wouldn't start either.  I had to go into the registry to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender key... and turn Defender back by changing DisableAntiSpyware to 0

Then I could reset the folders for Defender to ignore with AM... and now it works.

Strange circumstances, but thanks to your help it's resolved now.  Just posting this information in case other run into this situation with the Remote Service or Windows Defender.


Hi Puwaha

I had this issue as well a few versions back and manually copied the upgraded files from a working PC into the non working PC program files / AM service directory.  The PC with the above issue needed a Windows re-install anyways it was an excuse to do this which of course was a very round about way to resolve the issue (which it did). It is interesting to see that others (I recall someone else reporting this awhile back) have had this issue as well.

On another note I really liked your instructions from awhile back on using AM rules and IFTTT for my HS-110 smart plugs, my machines restart perfectly on a hard freeze thanks to you!

Regards
newbie
Activity: 37
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i see there is 4.7.3 update and also want to know whats the best option to mine using online services static settings: Current, 24 hour avarage estimate or 24 hour avarage actual?
There are probably many opinions on this. In general, Current should be the best, but it can result in a little higher estimates than what you actually get paid for.


Is this really true? I ask because when I switch to current, Awesome Miner switches between algos/pools so often that the earnings (In the earnings column on pools.) that show in my pools are almost nothing.... (there are more earnings shown and they are more spread out across my pools) but the earnings are very low.

However, even when I use the default setting of 24 hour estimate, my earnings still seem not right.... For my test rig alone, Awesome Miner typically (with statistics set to 24 hour estimate and the "Adjust reported revenue for actual payout performance." box checked) will still show a per day profit between $5 to $6. And because there are so many variables, I have been using a separate payment address for just my test rig.... but when I look at my actual earnings in Awesome Miner (total unpaid coin, not USD, YES I AM ACCOUNTING FOR DIPS IN PRICE!), I am seeing something closer to $1.50 to $3 per day...

At this point, I am honestly starting to believe that it would be more profitable to just use Awesome Miner with Nicehash so I can use more up to date miners.


Any suggestions would be welcome.
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0
SRBMiner Cryptonight AMD GPU Miner for All Your CryptoNight Needs

Supported CryptoNight variations:
– Cryptonight
– Cryptonight V7
– Cryptonight Lite
– Cryptonight Lite V7
– Cryptonight Heavy
– Cryptonight UltraHeavy
newbie
Activity: 52
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This only happens on one of my 18 remote managed miners. The DSTM miner (zm) is running with no console window from the ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder, which is a duplicate folder of %appdata%\AwesomeMiner. If I upgrade the Remote agent it upgrades the ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder but not  folder %appdata%\AwesomeMiner.

Then if I delete the duplicate ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder and uninstall/re-install the Remote Agent,  the  folder %appdata%\AwesomeMiner is created and the miner runs with console window as normal. But after a few restarts the duplicate ProgramData\AwesomeMiner folder is somehow created again. Then I am back to running the miner without console window.
full member
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I can't log in to any Suprnova pool now.  Supernova logins consist of Weblogin.Worker but only the Weblogin is being passed on the command line.  This used to work, did something break in the latest releases?  I don't know what else the problem could be, I haven't changed anything that I know of.
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