Topic: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners - page 551. (Read 703512 times)

This is a really good point about the "veiled" processes going on with MPH and Zpool.  It's just too hard to predict how your coins will be treated if you use their auto-conversion or auto-exchange features. That makes the simplicity of using NH a positive in it's favor.

EDIT:
Argh!  Looks like Zpool is having troubles again today, so I won't be able to do a 24 hour analysis of them until they get a little more stable.  I don't know what I would do without the notifications from Awesome Miner.  I should really do a deeper dive on the rules to see if there's a better way to automate situations like this.

Hello Patrike:

Thanks for the new updates. I really appreciate that you are opening up the program and, step by step, making things more customizable and less hard coded.
For that reason I upgraded my copy to Premium two days ago.
Even though the program still doesn't allow me to do the things I want, I feel it will be there soon.

In that regard, is it possible to make AwesomeMiner ask directly AfterBurner to switch to X profile depending on the algorithm being ran?
I know that you recently added the capability to modify settings for each GPU but I find it more difficult and cumbersome to do it from AM as opposed to doing it from AfterBurner where I already have all the profiles I need and every card adjusted for max efficiency.

Right now I'm doing it by using a rule which detects the pool URL and also detects when the miner connection is established and then launches an external program to force AfterBurner to switch the profile.
Unfortunately, that detection is not always accurate and sometimes AM doesn't execute the rule.

The same happens with the "Check Statistics->Accepted" rule. That one is really buggy and is only triggered after the accepted number is above 10.
To test it, I configured several notifications with several "Accepted", from 0 to 20.
The ones from 0-10 were never ever triggered and the rest would sometimes trigger and sometimes not.

Yes, I'm aware that this data was only a current statistic.  We had talked about this a few weeks ago where I made the suggestion to have a small database, caching this information to have AM build it's own moving average for display and use in the logic of profit-switching, if the user chooses that method.  I only brought it up again, because I want people to understand what these figures represent.  I think a 24 hour or longer moving average would be a really neat feature to have, and I'm eager to play with it to see if my theories hold true in real life.

I had also emailed you a few months ago about something similar for the temperatures and hashrate graphs on the Dashboard tab, if they or other statistics were cached in a database for analysis, probably in a small database.  You mentioned that AM wasn't doing this currently, which is fine.  I realize adding a database of some of these values might be a significant feature to add, but it might be good to expose some of this data to the user to make some deeper analysis of their miners if they choose to do so.  I think it would be a cool feature to add that would make Awesome Miner stand out, especially for your larger miner customers who have the bandwidth to do this kind of analysis (or us number nerds!)  And of course, I would expect this feature to only be available in a higher cost edition of AM.  No pressure from me... I'm just trying to help with some ideas on how to make AM better, and more effective for users.

There's already a ton of features I haven't gotten around to testing like the the Profit Factors like you mention below.



That's what I assumed was going on under the hood, but I'm glad you clarified it here.  I think the more exposure the user has to some of the logic or where AM is using what statistics where is helpful to the user to understand how to setup AM so that it works for their situation.  It's already very very flexible in many different scenarios, but that flexibility comes at a learning curve cost for the end user.

Would it be possible to add the Whattomine statistics to the Online Services tab?  If I'm reading your quote above correctly, AM will use both tabs for profit switching if I had selected the NH and custom pool profit, but it might be confusing to the user how AM uses those two tabs differently.  Or at the very least some labels on the tabs (Coins and Online Services) so that the user understands how those two sets of data are used by AM.



Thank you, this definitely would have been a future question.

Hi, using AM for a Baikal farm, but if I change pool from within AM, the algorithm always jumps to X11, regardless of the coin, making it useless. Is there a solution for it, to configure the algorithm too for baikal, as the pool change is working, but only invalid shares occur.

Hi There,

Is it possible to configure AwesomeMiner to monitor an Avalon 741 ?

UPDATE:

Managed to figure it out.  On the Avalon, I had to change the "API Allow" setting under the advanced options

I tried MPH for two weeks and it didn't make the cut for me. I have 6 cards and my hashrate got divided into so many coins that it took forever to exchange on the first week. On the second week I manually limited the algos to Daggerhashimoto and Equihash and earnings were still lower than NH. I think the reason is what I stated before, by the time they exchange the price of the coin isn't the same. I barely made 0.010 BTC with MPH in one week, while I consistently make 0.017 BTC in NH per week.

The high fees are really an illusion produced by the "lower fees" of the other pools. Yeah, you mine at 0.9% in MPH, but you still pay a fee for exchange, cash out and miner fee. When you add all the fees it's pretty much the same (still lower, but not that much to say you're earning way more). Yeah, NH charges a 4% fee for payments to an external wallet, but that's it (of course there's also the miner fee). And if you have enough hash power to make about 0.03 BTC per day, then mining to the NH wallet gets cheaper and cheaper.

Can't argue about the NH market. Yeah, we're limited to what it's wanted there, but that's never been an issue so far (a year or so).

I've tried all the methods available, except solo mining. And at least for my needs (low hash rate friendly, quick cash no hassle), NH is the way to go.

Thanks for the info Patrike.

I've now made a backup of the config files on both rigs.

Both are now running in Dual mode.

The Managed Profit Miner cannot be configured for Dual Mining - it should happen automatically if Dual Mining is considered profitable. Can you check your Dual Mining hashrates for your Profit profile? Do you have both Ethereum and Decred/Sia/Pascal pools made available for the profit switcher? If you click the "View details" button on the miner, or in the latest release, right click and select "View process details", can you see both Ethereum and dual algorithms in the list?

These included Device Profiles are for Sgminer only that requires some special configuration for the mining to more or less work at all. Sgminer is for AMD only. For Claymore Ethereum mining you can also define device profiles (both for AMD and nVidia), but there are not really any general settings that everyone must have for the Claymore miners. Instead, it's more per system adjustments, making it less relevant to include good defaults in Awesome Miner.

Today Awesome Miner is not saving the profit information from these coin statistics sources, it only uses the API's provided by them to get current profit (configurable to 24h actual profit in the next release).

If you only select Nicehash, Zpool and MPH for the profit switcher, then the information from WhatToMine and Coins tab isn't used. However, if you add a custom pool or pools, it may be a single coin pool for Dash or Signatum. For these single coin pools, the profit information from WhatToMine is used - which is also what you see on the Coins tab. If for example Signatum is more profitable than what Nicehash and the others have, the profit switcher will go for Signatum. So the profit switcher is already comparing single coin pools (WhatToMine statistics) with the multipools (Nicehash, ... statistics).

For a given Profit switching profile, you can compare the Profit values in the Coins tab and the Online services tab.

What you can do if you don't like Nicehash except when it's super-profitable is to define a lower "Profit factor" in the Options dialog, Online servies section. For each pool from Nicehash, zpool and MPH, you can specify for example 80% Profit factor. That will make it look less profitable for Awesome Miner, but if it becomes much more profitable than a single coin, the profit switcher would still use it.

The hashrates should be for a single card. I just answered a similar question moments ago, where you will find a more complete answer: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21466835

Hi,
In order for Awesome Miner to display coin and profit information, it must know which coin you are mining. If you mine on Nicehash, you need set the coin for the pool in Awesome Miner to "Unspecified SHA-256". Awesome Miner will then understand that it's not specific known coin you are mining, but will instead look at the pool URL and see that it's Nicehash and show the profit for Nicehash SHA-256.

Selec the Antminer in the main window of Awesome Miner. Select the Pools tab in the lower part of the screen to view the list of pools. Select the Nicehash pool, click "Define coin" and set "Unspecified SHA-256".

In general, Awesome Miner works fine with all standard compliant miners. Almost all popular ASIC miners do provide a Cgminer compatible API, making it possible to manage and monitor them from Awesome Miner.

I actually don't know about the support for those you list - maybe you can try? You can download and use the free version of Awesome Miner from the web site.

All coins are unfortunately not supported, because Awesome Miner requires a Block Explorer that provides an API in order to get this kind of information. If I'm able to find one, I can of course add support for more coins. A large number of coins are supported via this Block Explorer, but not those you list:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

If the GPU's are identical you only need to benchmark one single GPU. You will then save the hashrates to a Profit Profile.

For the profit switcher, this is good enough, because it will make the same decisions on a computer no matter if you have one nVidia GTX 1070 or six nVidia GTX 1070. If Equihash is most profitable for 1070, it doesn't matter how many 1070 you have, it's still the most profitable algorithm.

In general, the best pracise is to specify all the hashrates for a single GPU.

Then you have the concept of Profit Profile Groups, also configured in Options dialog, Profit profile section. These groups are simply pointing to one or multiple Profit profiles, and specifies the total number of GPU's. They are requires in two scenarios:
1) You want to display the profit on the Coins tab or Online Services tab for a complete system instead of just profit per GPU.
2) You have a mix of GPU types, for example two nVidia 1060 and three nVidai 1080. In the Profile Groups you can specify this information in order for the profit switcher to make the correct decision.

Are you using the latest Awesome Miner v3.2.8 (both the main application and Remote Agent)? That one should include Claymore Ethereum Miner 10.0. If the automatic download failed it may be beacuse of security software preventing it.

I agree with what puwaha stated above.

I just have a question about "Power Stage". Awesome Miner uses MSI Afterburner to control GPU clocking and similar. There is a GPU setting called "Power Limit" where you by default have 100%, but you can lower this one to make the GPU consume less power (and it will limit performance i little bit). Is that what the "Power Stage" is doing?

Awesome Miner let you configure the Power Limit, together with GPU clock, fan speed and more. The exact parameters will depend on what kind of GPU you are using. You can find more information here:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/gpuclocking.aspx

I also recommend a Managed Miner, and then use templates to switch between a few predefined configurations:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/managedtemplate.aspx

Patrike,

I seem to be having a problem or found a problem ... !



I've set up a miner as shown above, it's a Managed Profit Miner.

For the life of me I can not find the setting to make this miner work in Dual mode mining. Where is the option to enable / disable Dual mode mining for this type of miner ?



I can get one of my rigs to work in Dual mode (both setup the same way), but the other rig fails to work, it either mines from Claymore in single mode or mines with EWBF, with the EWBF disabled. The only way I could fix this was to port over the config file from the other rig.

Device Profiles.
I see one default profile ---  AMD X-algorithm.

Why no default NVidia X-algorithm as well ?

Is it possible to add a new feature.

View edit the AMD and NVidia Profiles that come built-in.

Thanks.

Hello everybody,

I hope it can help me, I have antminer run on nicehash, is there a possibility to display the profit? ( i have the Premium License)

many thanks for your help



https://imgur.com/3eGk2vB

Yes, if you have a lot of rigs and can generate large sets of hashrates then you can accumulate a lot of coins quickly... the problem is the auto exchange on sites like MPH can take hours.  If you ever watch Whattomine for a while (or even the Coins tab in Awesome Miner) you will see coins shuffle constantly, so you are rarely going to be exchanging your coins by relying on MPH or Zpool to get it at the right time.

And if you think that a coin is going to stay steady or continue to rise, it might make more sense to just mine it directly through Awesome Miner with a regular Managed Miner and accumulate the coins and exchange manually.

I get that FOMO when using Nicehash, because in AM, the daily rate it shows is usually much lower than the "profit" that MPH or Zpool show.  I'll mine at NH for a few hours then ask myself why am I mining at such a lower rate than what I was getting at MPH for instance.  Then I wonder, why am I even bothering chasing coins, and go back to mining my favorite single coins and turn off profit switching.

I want to like NH, but it's got big fees, you only get paid what the buyers "market" will pay out, and just doesn't seem as profitable as the others.  I think there is a thread here, where someone put 3 equal rigs on NH, MPH, and ZPool for seven days and surprisingly ZPool came out ahead.  I was always hesitant to use ZPool because it's had some bad reviews in the past of them "stealing" large percentages of hashrates, intentionally switching your rigs to less profitable algos because they need to level out others and more.

I think I'll give Zpool a go through AM for 24 hours and see what happens.

I'm pretty sure you can use the Afterburner server integration in Awesome miner to do a lot of this.  I tend to just find a happy medium on the rig, and go with that in Afterburner.  It keeps the rig more stable if you don't push the cards to the extreme ends.


There's a lot more controls for GPU adjustments in the Premium version of AM.  I don't have that version, so I haven't had a chance to play with it, but yes, there are tons of controls, rules, templates and more that you can tweak on GPUs in AM.


You can setup both for each rig.  I setup a regular Managed Miner when I just want to focus on a single coin.  I setup templates to make it easy and fast to change coins manually.  The Managed Profit Miner is strictly to use the profit switching feature in AM.  I experiment with them from time to time, but it seems I always keep coming back to mining a single coin.

One thing I do like to do with the Managed Profit Miners is put them on Mining Pool Hub profit switching, but turn off the auto-conversion of the coins on  MPH's web page.  That way I accumulate a good collection of various coins that tend to be profitable from time to time, and can then decide when to manually cash them in at an exchange.