Topic: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners - page 552. (Read 703583 times)

Yes, the only way you could do it with MPH is to have AM keep it's own running average every time it checks WTM or Coinwarz.  Which kind of lends itself to a couple of questions I've had.

When using profit switching, AM is strictly relying on what NH, MPH, and ZPool say is the most profitable, correct?  the Coins tab data is really just there for convenience?  Is there a way to match what WTM says is "most profitable" to one of the profit-switching services?  Or does that happen only when you use a custom pool grouping with a managed profit miner?

Another question I have deals with the hashrates defined in the Algorithms or Profit Profiles.  When we manually put in the hashrates or use the really awesome new benchmarking feature... should the rates defined there be a single card or the entire rig?  Does AM extrapolate that I have  6 cards and use the multiple rate when determining if switching to a different algorithm should be done?

Depends on what you're aiming to:

If you're interested in a certain coin, then profit doesn't matter. You need that coin no matter what (developing stuff or whatever the coin is used for)

If you want to play the market and probably cash higher in the long run, then you should mine a profitable coin and probably hold it until the market price is good for you. However you don't know exactly when this will happen.

I you don't want to be bothered with exchanges, then you could use services like MininPoolHub that do the exchange for you. However you're still earning the coins you mine and the service do the exchange to whatever you want. The exchange gamble still applies. Only difference is that you don't get to decide when to exchange, because this is done automatically. You could have mined at a profitable time but the service exchanges at a lower price. The opposite can also be true.
Also, since you're earning in coins and these services have minimums for exchanges, the more different coins you mine the longer it takes to reach a minimum for exchange on each coin. This is because your hashing power gets divided into more coins.

With services like NiceHash you don't need to be worried about the coin market that much, because profits comes from whatever is most wanted in the NiceHash market (that your hardware can mine). Of course, it's very likely that the most profitable coins in the cryptocurrency market are the most wanted in the NiceHash market. Also, it doesn't matter which algorithm you mine, you're always paid in BTC at the profit of the moment of mining. That is, every time you send a valid share it is added to your balance at the current exchange rate (BTC price / algorithm price). And they have fixed days for payment so you always know when you're going to cash.

IMO if you're looking for quick profit with no hassle, services like NiceHash are the way to go. But these services are not necessarily the most profitable in a longer window of time.

The good thing is, AwesomeMiner can be used in any of these scenarios.

Are the following miners going to be supported?

BW L21
Innosilicon A5
M1 BTC Miner

The argument goes both ways, though; the price could be higher at the time of exchange just as much as it could be lower.  If you're generating enough volume in the x minutes of profit switching to a given algo, then generating the coins to get them onto the exchange isn't an issue.

I see UBQ and SIGT coins in the Balance area (under Options) but anyone have working blockchain explorer API URLs for these two since these are not pre-filled in Awesome Miner like they are repopulated for ETH, ZEC, and others?

So, for benchmarking, I select my GPU0, do the full list, and then do it again for GPU1?  They are identical 1070s... just curious.

Thanks again for the software!  Outstanding.

So do you think it is worth it to do some rigs on Awesome Miner single coin, and some rigs use Nice Hash and  use profit switching?

This is something most people don't get. Constantly chasing most profitable coin doesn't make the cut in the long run. You could be mining a coin at a profit right now, but by the time you have enough of that coin to exchange it the price could have go down. Of course, it could go up too.

TBH, chasing short term profit mining only works with NiceHash. They make a log of your profit at a given time and add it to your balance. It doesn't matter if the price drops later, the coins you mined at a certain price get immediately converted at that exchange rate and added to your balance. In sites like MiningPoolHub you are actually earning coins. MPH only automates the exchange process and they have minimums for this, so it's very likely that the price will be different by the time of exchange than the at time you mined the coin. I'm not really sure but I think zpool is like NiceHash too.

So, for those mining coins directly, it's better to stick to one coin that have a good profitable average in a week.

I tried to use Claymore V 10 but it run claymore V9.8. How to fix it ?

Hi All,  I'm switching from SimpleMining to Awesome Miner and am excited.  I have some questions for anyone familiar with both.

1. In SimpleMining, I did alot of custom core/memory overclock.  Can I use similar settings or do I have to test each card settings all over again?

2. In SimpleMining I lowered Power Stage to get lower watts and it was easy just slide down bar.  What area of Awesome Miner can I do the same?

3. Do you recommend Managed Miner or Managed Profit Miner?

I started looking into this a little while ago when it was discussed last time, and I found a way to support 24h avg statistics for Nicehash, zpool and WhatToMine - but not for Mining Pool Hub.

I will go ahead and make the implementation for these sources that supports it, because it's only a small implementation. I will add a new settings in the Options dialog (probably in the Statistics sub section for Coins&Profit) where you can select between "Current" and "24h average". This will be used for the information you see on the Coins tab, the Online Services tab and for the profit switcher.

You are correct that WhatToMine is very flexible here, but the other sources are not.

There are some major issues with Zpool today. Their site worked when I tried it right now, but earlier it didn't respond to API calls and the site wasn't working.

Thanks for your feedback on this. It's good that you have a manual workaround, but it would be even better if Awesome Miner could handle this for you. Right now it's a bit difficult as Diamond is just another Groestl algorithm according to all coin statistics sources including WhatToMine.

From the Diamond coin FAQ it also sounds like it should be standard Groestl:
A: groestl is a algo not developed for cryptocoins but as a general purpose security algorythm same as SHA256 (bitcoin algo)
myriadcoin & groestlcoin where the first which used this great algorythm for a crypto currency
and diamond will take a similar approach of implementation so grs able miningsoftware will be able mine dmd too
compared to scrypt it have less power useage and heat production on most GPU even below x11

Maybe the fact that it will be POS solves the problem for Awesome Miner, as it doesn't have to be supported anymore? 

Patrike,

Is there a problem with zpool.ca ?

I can't seem to connect to the website and Awesome Miner will not connect to the servers either !

I've never tried to connect to Zpool before, so I could be doing something wrong setup wise.

Feedback / info on setup would be great.

Thanks.

OH.... I just checked... you can't mine Diamond on pools anymore.  They are preparing to change over to pure POS, so all the pools are closing, and you can only solo mine until September 12th.

That's kind of the knock on profit switching in general.  When a coin jumps to the top, thousands of miner's profit switching algos switch to it, spiking the difficulty, thus knocking the coin back down the list.  In the meantime, depending on how often your profit switching algo checks, it will keep on mining the "not as profitable" coin.  Then you have to wait for the auto-conversion from the pool which can take many many minutes to hours, and by that time the coin has tanked in value... so you actually get less BTC than you would have just mining the coin and holding or waiting and manually changing to BTC.

I personally feel it's better to look at a coin's average... maybe 24 hours is a good indicator, but I prefer longer averages to the tune of 3 days to a week.  You will get much more consistent profits by mining a coin that stays popular at #3 all week than trying to chase coins that tank before you can see the profits.  It's kind of counter-intuitive.  I'm hoping Patrike can add some more customization in determining the parameters on how the profit switching works.  Whattomine.com already has parameters to look at 24 hour, 2 day, and 3 day averages.

I mine Diamond on Awesome Miner with no issue.  I just put the "-a dmd-gr" option on the command line parameters on my managed template for Diamond. 

Thanks for the feature add; I just updated and it seems all is functioning as intended.  I will continue to monitor and let you know of any issues.

Question regarding zpool profitability numbers: is there any particular reason the '24h actual' reported value isn't used for the actual profitability of the algo?  Frequently I'll see zpool algos at, say, $7/day, but when factoring in the 24h actual, the return is much lower.  What is the intent here?  Which number is most accurate?  In example, at time of posting, zpool Hmq1725 reports a BTC/GH/day of .09475, but the 24h actual is .08012.  I don't want a situation where I'm mining something reportedly as the top algo but in reality is halfway down the list.

Outstanding, wonderful program Patrike.

Just installed this latest update, testing underway on 2 small rigs.

Future feature, can the Console be included in the Pools section under the list of miners, so it would be three tier window ?


EG..... Visualize this..

Miners Tab

Description

>>My Profit Miner

Profit Miners
Pools Tab

>Pool 1
>pool 2

Console (with the option to expand (display) / Shrink (Hide)

>Console Window

This way I would not need the DOS window with the console info as an overlay.

Thoughts ?

Version 3.2.8 (Development preview of 4.0)

- Awesome Miner Cloud Services
  * Cloud Services is an optional subscription service that adds additional features to Awesome Miner
  * Web interface hosted in the cloud. All monitoring statistics are pushed to the cloud by Awesome Miner and can be accessed from any computer, tablet or smart phone.
  * Mining operations can also be controlled via the cloud without any firewall configuration
  * SMS notifications, send SMS as rule action and send SMS manually
  * Listen to Awesome Miner heart beat and send a notification if missing
- GPU mining
  * More flexible algorithm configuration. New algorithms can be defined by user and configured for each mining software.
  * More flexible Online Service configuration
  * Managed Software can be added and used by both Managed Miners and by the Managed Profit Switcher. Define custom command line arguments for new algorithms per mining software.
  * GPU clocking profiles can be defined and automatically applied when a Managed Miner is starting and/or stopping. Works without any dependencies on the mining software being used.
  * New algorithms and coins added
  * Display Claymore miner invalid shares as HW errors
  * Ccminer 2.2 replaces older Ccminer SP-mod
  * Claymore Ethereum Miner 10.0 (changes GPU order - may require updates to 'Map to system monitoring' in Awesome Miner)
  * Claymore Zcash Miner 12.6
- ASIC mining
  * iBeLink fully supported with temperature
  * Antminer R1-LTC hashrate correction
  * Better detection of Antminer types in the network scanner
- Profitability Switching
  * Benchmarking of algorithm hashrates
  * Profit switching improvements, including configuration to disable individual algorithms per pool and separate dual mining hashrates
  * Managed Profit Miners can be configured with environment settings like Managed Miners, where window mode and processor settings can be defined.
  * Managed Profit Miners can override global worker names for default profit switching pools
  * Better support for multi-algorithm coins like Digibyte
- User interface
  * The coins listed with exchange rate in the statusbar can be customized
  * Added 6 more currencies, to support display in local currencies for more countries
  * Moved e-mail server configuration to a separate section in the Options dialog
  * Add user defined WhatToMine coins not listed in the main API
  * Window glass mode can be configured
- Rules, integration and configuration
  * New HTTP API's: Perform operations on a single notification. Includes Group Id information for miners. Get list of Managed Templates and apply templates to a miner.
  * Custom e-mail address can be set for a notification action, to override the global e-mail address to send notifications to
  * Rule triggers to detect when the computer is idle and used, to support start of mining when the computer is idle
  * Rule action to execute command (any application) on remote miner and also access the the remote execute feature from the System tab
  * Execute action can use the variable "[Host]" for the parameters, to launch external applications with the hostname/ip of the miner as a command line argument.
  * Web interface includes secondary hashrate if available, coin information in smart phone mode and corrections to notification display in multi-user environments
  * Both worker name and password field can use variables [IP1], [IP2], [IP3], [IP4] to replace with IP address segments for External Miners
  * SSL configuration for built-in web interface
- Corrections
  * Corrections to SMTP library to support Office 365 accounts
  * Correction of Block Explorer request for zcash for the Balance feature
  * Adjusted for new hashrate reporting on some algorithms at Nicehash and zpool
  * General improvements and corrections


Important: The Remote Agent must also be upgraded.

Development Previews can be enabled from the Options dialog, General section. Then Menu -> Check for updates. If you need access to the MSI files for manual installation:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMiner.msi
http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteService.msi

Don't downgrade to version 3.2 once you installed the new development versions.

Awesome Miner 4.0 release plan
Awesome Miner 4.0 will be released during the first half of September. The content of the release will be almost identical to the feature list above.

Already today you can sign up and start using the new Awesome Miner Cloud Services together with the development version.