Topic: Bakery That Refused to Make Cake for Lesbian Couple Raises Record-Breaking Donat (Read 1746 times)

Yeah.



My next logical step towards giving the story a happy ending was to tweak the thread title. Much cheaper than calling in the lawyers.

Such a disappointment this was bumped for an advertisement.

Anyway -- if someone refused to bake a cake for anyone, the next logical step is to file suit and pay a hefty price for lawyers....oppose to, you know, going down the street to another bakery. Sexual orientation and gender identity are protected classes now according to Bostock v. Clayton County, so the lesbians can rest easy knowing they get to eat their cake.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf

Go figure.

Americans and their Bronze Age myths!!!

Idiocracy 2.0

Something about there being a separation between church and State but not there being one between Mosque and State.

Refusing to participate in something you find objectionable to your religion is not automatically bigotry. These bakers (and others) were clearly carefully selected and targeted for this. There is a difference between refusing to violate your religious rights in order to earn income and persecution of individuals because they are homosexual. I feel the United States has made great leaps accommodating the homosexual constituency of the US, and in most of the country one can be freely and openly homosexual with hardly any note from others.

Homosexual people have a right to live their lives as they wish, undisturbed, they do not however have the right to force others to agree with their choices. In my opinion the "gay lobby" is now currently engaged in a campaign to try to force everyone to share their world view, not just allow them to live in peace like everyone else has a right to. This is not about equality any more, it is about supremacy. This is a direct attack on the religious beliefs of this baker. You do not take the rights of one person to give rights to another, that is not justice. If these people worked in a hospital, or even a restaurant, I might agree they should be punished, but it is a FUCKING CAKE, I am sure the emotional scars of having to drive down the street to another baker for an event months in the future will last a life time. This is certainly a good enough reason to bankrupt that entire family right? What a heinous unforgivable crime!

They used to label moral as bigotry as that's something what doesn't fit into their agenda. They are trying to replace it with ethics, what is a social consensus, therefore more easy to re-shape on demand, then moral what is based on beliefs, rules and tradition (basically a collection of time tested "best practices").

Jeez, I hope not. This isn't the Islamic State. Just because the Bible calls for people to do something doesn't mean U.S. law will allow it.

So far as I know the Kleins aren't calling for the death of those with other religious views.
Where did you get the idea they were?

Deuteronomy 13:6-10

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

Just hand over your Jewish friends to the authorities. It's the law.

Ah, the words of the enlightened Paul. Perhaps unlike you, I don't let Paul's opinions override current knowledge. But I just LOVE how bigots cherry-pick the bible. Let's ignore Leviticus, we don't do things that way anymore. Except for THIS verse and THAT verse, which we deem is the very Word Of God. YMMV, of course.

Christians are so funny. They do not question their emotional reactions, they search for bible verses they can interpret as ratifying those emotions. And they can always do this no matter what emotional reactions they have. There is ALWAYS scripture that can be found to support anything. Amusing to watch groups of Christians banging one another over the head with their bibles, claiming that their interpretation is obviously correct, and the other interpretation is obsolete/a misunderstanding/no longer holy or whatever.

Romans 1:26-28 - 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Yet I haven't seen a single lawsuit against a Muslim Baker. For folks who carp about equal rights, Christians are the only ones they sue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4&feature=youtu.be

Bravo ended. About sums it up!

They could have simply taken their business somewhere that wanted it, and this dust storm would have never ensued. And yes.....they are a vengeful, petty couple.

You don't seem to mind intolerance when the intolerants are with you. Instead of merely taking their business elsewhere this lesbian couple opted instead for the most punitive vengeful path possible. True Old Testament stuff.

The fact is this bakery had served this lesbian couple many times in the past (it's why this particular shop was chosen though Portland is filled with bakeries). So these bakers had no problem with homosexuality, per se.
They had a problem with actively being forced to participate (albeit tangentially) in a ceremony their religion did not
approve of.

Well, it seems as though they've had the last laugh. And Ghandi's view of Christians would extend it seems to all of humanity because we all fall far short of perfection. And that would include these lesbians and their supporters who
all howled for their pound of flesh above all else.

You can believe whatever you choose for yourself. However......the comment "true Christianity is limited to those" is making a bold, incorrect, unnecessary commentary on what others believe.

To me, true Christianity is limited to those who emulate the life of the prophet, Jesus Christ. I take my cue from this guy;

                                                             

My religious beliefs do not permit me to serve men/women/blacks/Christians

Again, I agree. Believe what you will, but follow the law.


And I agree yet again! Some people have a deeply emotional reaction to gays. This isn't a religious reaction, it's a visceral reaction. The problem comes when they rationalize this reaction by waving their holy scripture around.

I could care less how stupid you think it is... It's only been common among Christians for the last 1950+ years...

The First Amendment is law.....