Thanks vey much for this new information Ukyo.

We really appreciate it.

Hello everyone,

First off I want to apologize for my tardiness to the discussion.
I have had some big things going on the last few weeks and was only watching specific threads
I was also just out of town for the last week where I had spotty access.

Either way, enough with the excuses.

I have restored the description and summary for the BAKEWELL asset and listing them here as well for future reference.

Summary:

Description:

As for Skype, this is what I recently found in my stack of unread messages:

At this point, the shareholder list will remain visible on the BitFunder asset list should someone want to copy and paste it.
There are no immediate plans to remove BAKEWELL the list, but might happen in the next few months.
I think it should stay public for a while so anyone else can get a copy for reference.

This is all I have to help with, wish it was more.

Looks good.  Be careful to make sure everything you say is 100% factual and you're following all of your local laws regarding what you are allowed to publish in regards to debt collection.  I'd hate for this to get turned against you somehow.  Seems far-fetched, but I've seen it happen a number of times.

Cheers.

Works now.

I'd suggest changing the design for the

text.. it makes this look a bit like it's not serious..

Everything seems fine for me, but I haven't checked in a number of hours. How's it looking for you right now?

DNS resolution fails. Just switched name servers?

Bluehost account cancelled and gone- their cancellation service was great!

Website now online at scammer-ianbakewell.com

Any new content very welcome

Well, that's embarassing.

Bluehost are having "technical issues" right now, and can't give me any ETA for my site working!! FFS

Cancelling the account right now, and looking for new hosting that works!

I've made and uploaded a very basic, quick Bakewell Scam website @

ianbakewell-scammer.com

Please visit it regularly just to get the search engines interested.

More content will be added as I get the time, which is really limited for me right now.

All comments, suggestions and especially pointers towards content, especially proof of Ian's various misdoings are extremely welcome.

Thanks very much for this post usagi.

It's great to hear something from Ukyo, I have lot of respect for him, and I'm sure he will so the right thing here, helping us to find out what has happened with Ian.

Now, this message from Ian...

I wasn't sure it was ok to post. Ukyo is away now.

He said it was OK to post this (emphasis mine):

[10:55] <@Ukto> i was sent a txt msg about bakewell
[10:55] <@Ukto> i dont have access to forums atm
[10:56] <@Ukto> since i am out and about and dont have my pass
[10:56] <@Ukto> i only very quickly looked at the threds
[10:56] <@Ukto> not sure what people are wanting
[10:56] <@Ukto> but Ian did freeze the asset
[10:56] <@Ukto> or request it
[10:56] <@Ukto> cant rememebr
[10:56] <@Ukto> and sent a skype saying that he will handle shareholders privately
[10:56] <@Ukto> i would post the skype, but skype apparently only logs to local client
[10:57] <@Ukto> so i will have to post it when i get back
[10:57] <@Ukto> And yes, i can repost the details page when i get back
[10:57] <@Ukto> useres shares should still be listed normally on bf
[10:57] <@Ukto> even if ian were to destroy them, i have backups
[10:58] <@Ukto> as for teh stuff with avalon, thats beyond me.
[10:58] <@Ukto> I have no say, or anything in the matter
[10:58] <@Ukto> all i can do is provide the list of shareholders (which should stay publicly available)
[10:59] <@Ukto> just saw where strello said that ppl have been asking for mefor for bakewell since apr 2nd, i am not sure what is being asked for, and apparently missed smoething
[10:59] <@Ukto> This week is very very busy, with somet big news.
[10:59] <@Ukto> i hope people will understand when announcements are made.
[11:00] <@Ukto> umm, i think that about sums up bakewell best i can atm
[11:00] <@Ukto> feel free to quote this into the thread if you want
[11:00] <@Ukto> I will do what i can, that is reasonably within my powers.
[11:01] <@Ukto> Restoring deleted descriptions, etc
[11:05] thanks
[11:05] Some of the posters online are upset but I told them it really had nothing to do with you
[11:06] I mean there's not much you can do, but it's great that ian said he would handle his shareholders.
[11:06] Maybe it won't be a total loss :/
[11:14] <@Ukto> yes, once I get back in town I will post the quote from skype immediately.
[11:15] <@Ukto> will be about 2 days

A message from Ian? Interesting, but why not post it now? Another delay tactic it seems.

UPDATE:

I managed to speak with someone at BitFunder and they said they would do what they can to restore the deleted info on BitFunder.

Secondly, a message from Ian Bakewell has been received and will (should be) posted on the 19th or 20th. I have no other details.

I think we should wait until we have the un-deleted asset information and can read the message from Ian. I will post this info on the other thread in the scam accusation forum as well.

Thanks for this information, Tachikoma.

I apologise for any insult, and have edited my comment regarding Ukyo and Bitfunder out of my previous post.

However, this is a serious matter, and we have been asking for a comment or information from Ukyo publicly in the Bitfunder thread since 03. April with zero response:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1726849

I believe we have given him many chances publicly and by PM to comment.

His profile page, by the way, shows last activity on 12. April.

I think you should give Ukto a chance to explain the matter from his angle before throwing scam accusations around. All I know he is currently out of the country on business and can't respond. You can probably verify this by his last login date to the forums.

As far as I know was Ian himself that closed the asset; not Ukto.

I'm late to this party, but I add my 966 shares in affirmation of TradeFortress as CEO and the attempt to reclaim hardware, BTC, and wind down BAKEWELL.

Just a quick progress update for anyone following this thread.

Following niko's sound advice from a few days back, the discussion this weekend moved into more private channels.

We've had some progress.

Yifu has been officially contacted by the shareholder group.

A few very useful new pieces of information have been brought to our attention.

Nameface is working on a media website pertaining to bitcoin called BITCITIZEN, and the Bakewell scam will be it's lead story. We are working on wider web exposure of the story.

In preparation for the legal approach, we are gathering evidence from the devastation of the original thread and other sources after Ian deleted all his posts. Especially concerned with the nature of Ian's stock offering, as it's now clear that, as shareholders, we have a good claim to ownership of current and ordered equipment and assets. We need more documentation of this. This is all very time consuming, and we all have lives to get on with. We would be very grateful to anyone having any links to interesting facts to post them here or PM them to me. My GPG key is in my sig. Email on profile page.

Finally, I have been asked by others in the shareholder group to make another appeal to Ian Bakewell. Nothing would please us more, Ian, than if you made contact with us and started a dialogue to try to resolve this. We are determined to make your life extremely uncomfortable in as many creative ways as possible, and we are not going away. You don't need us messing with your online life. Talk to us.

Mods moved my post to scam accusations:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-ian-bakewell-the-facts-for-non-bitcoiners-175887

Good work this weekend guys! Things are moving.

As a (slightly off-topic) side-note to the above.  It does occur to me that in future such situations it COULD be possible to have agreements for judge.me to arbitrate to be made binding.  That would require signing a contract for their services and lodging funds with them to cover the cost of them arbitrating in any dispute.  Only one half the fees would need to be lodged - with the other half lodged by whoever subsequently made a complaint.  Not sure they'd do that - but would have thought it could be worked out and actually provide some useful protection (in that an enforcable judgment could be made if they became unresponsive).

Until that happens, agreements to use judge.me are worthless in the event one party just stops responding (other than as additional evidence of their bad-faith).

Yes - but him promising you that judge.me could arbitrate isn't sufficient for them to get involved.  Go read their site.  Both parties have to sign an agreement with judge.me (and pay fees) before they'll do anything.  It's just another promise he made that he can break - and judge.me have no standing to to jump in without his consent made to them.  Plus they wouldn't want to anyway - how do they make a profit from (say) finding him in the wrong and awarding costs against him? 

You do realise judge.me is a private for-profit organisation, not part of the legal system?  Their ability to make judgments relies on both parties signing a contract with them in advance - which contract can then be enforced via the main-stream legal system if not adhered to.  And their profit comes from them making sure they get their fees lodged with them in advance.

So unless you can persuade him to signup with judge.me that idea's a total loss.  And why would he do that?  He knows what the outcome would be - so if he were willing to do that then he may just as well save himself their fees and either pay up or acknowledge his debt.