Ballon d'or Prediction Thread 2022/2023

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:09:41 PM

This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

This year we will have a very difficult decision, I still have a lot of doubts between three players: Messi, Haaland and Mbappé.

Something that will greatly influence the decision this year is the period of evaluation of the players, since it will be restricted to the time that the official European season takes place, between July of one year and July of the other. In practice this means that in this edition the individual plays of the players in the Qatar World Cup will be evaluated by the prize winner.
There was also a drastic reduction in the jury from 170 (last year) to 100 representatives that year.

Even more important...
New evaluation criteria were adopted, and the individual performance of the players will prevail over the results obtained by their clubs. So, the fair play of the players will have an added weight in the definition of the winner of the Ballon d'Or.
Which in my opinion is fair enough.

Among so many changes, this year's winner may be a big surprise, but I'm still betting on one of the three I mentioned at the beginning of my post.

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Quote from: samcoin on January 27, 2023, 02:12:42 PM

I think the World Cup tournament has no strong effect on the winner of Ballon d'or. Luka Modric won it in 2018, although he didn't manage to win the World Cup final, and Ronaldo was the winner in 2014 when Germany won the World Cup. It seems the performance the player introduces with his club has a stronger effect than what he does with his national team, and the UCL is the strongest decisive factor for the winner of this trophy. Therefore, Halland could have a chance if Man City won the UCL this season.

You are right, for now the criteria for choosing the ballon d'or are very varied, I don't know to what extent FIFA agents can be allowed to do something to choose, but this time we will see if the ballon d'or comes from some players who are playing in the Europa League, because one of the most options could be Lewa, but I think that the one who can win it this time could be Mbappé, who has a good record, I'm sure that if he had won the world cup he would already have 80% of the Golden ball, however now the agents in charge of choosing have never said at least one criterion to be able to be selected for the best golden ball.

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I think the World Cup tournament has no strong effect on the winner of Ballon d'or. Luka Modric won it in 2018, although he didn't manage to win the World Cup final, and Ronaldo was the winner in 2014 when Germany won the World Cup. It seems the performance the player introduces with his club has a stronger effect than what he does with his national team, and the UCL is the strongest decisive factor for the winner of this trophy. Therefore, Halland could have a chance if Man City won the UCL this season.

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I strongly see the ballon d'or for Messi this time around again... Haven't really seen any player that merits it, though alot would say Ronaldo should have a chance this time around; I'm not just gonna dispute the fact that he should but, I'm afraid he's not fitting in the complete requirements this time.
Messi has pulled through with one of the greatest achievements when it comes to FIFA rating; Plus his spectacular performances throughout the world cup... I don't think he needs the UCL trophy to be awarded.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 27, 2023, 07:46:49 AM

Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

I have no words for Messi. because Messi has collected all the awards, both individual awards and collecting various competition championship trophies. at the Qatar world cup championship yesterday, is a complement to the trophy that Messi collects. Like it or not, Messi will be a strong candidate to win the Balon d'Or award, especially if PSG are able to win the UCL trophy this season.

For Mbappe, it seems he is an exception. but I am sure, however Mbeppe will be one of the candidates for this award.
but IMO, it's not yet time for Mbappe to win this award. at least not this season, but I believe Mbappe will win the Balon d'Or when the time comes.

For this one we agree, this time the Balon d'or award should go to Haalland. he played superbly with City, and scored 3-4 hat-tricks in the Premier League. but to make it happen, Halland must bring City to win the Champions League trophy first.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on January 27, 2023, 08:58:40 AM

I don't know what happen with your listed name without Karim Benzema? he was success get Ballon d'Or last season and I sure he has potential get back this season although absent in FIFA World Cup 2022. I know Lionel Messi potential for winning Ballon d'or but depending with his achievement during PSG success or not in UEFA Champion League.

Lionel Messi become strong candidate winning Ballon d'Or is success get one tittle left is Champion League, how is dreaming to get champion league tittle with PSG in this season actually no doubt for him collected many Ballon d'Or in than other player around the world.

It's true that for this year's Balon d'or, the one with the potential to get it is Messi because he's the only candidate who has a big chance at this year's Balon d'or.
It can also be seen from the achievements of the game he played in the World Cup which was quite good compared to other players.
In addition, his achievements while playing with PSG, which were quite good, could also encourage him to get the Balon d'or.
So my prediction for the Balon d'or is only one name, namely Messi.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on January 27, 2023, 07:25:52 AM

There are amazing individual performances each season, but if that does not add up on a collective level and in the real objective that is to win competitions, so, well done! It club having most talented player. But...!

So it is the case here, how many soccer legends are indisputable on an individual level but who delivered nothing to the collective (clubs, team national)

So yes, great players, great statistics, but football is what you leave behind in your club and the tournaments that you manage to win for your country, that is the magic of great players that differentiates them from that great elite. Is there any doubt about the winner.

The player who leads the year in all aspects. He was selected as the player of the year. The style of play, assists, goals, how he played a role in winning the match is judged in all aspects.

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I don't know what happen with your listed name without Karim Benzema? he was success get Ballon d'Or last season and I sure he has potential get back this season although absent in FIFA World Cup 2022. I know Lionel Messi potential for winning Ballon d'or but depending with his achievement during PSG success or not in UEFA Champion League.

Lionel Messi become strong candidate winning Ballon d'Or is success get one tittle left is Champion League, how is dreaming to get champion league tittle with PSG in this season actually no doubt for him collected many Ballon d'Or in than other player around the world.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 27, 2023, 07:46:49 AM

Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

Had Mbappe's team won the World Cup, he would have won the Ballon d'Or. And he is far behind Messi in terms of assists. So it can be said that Mbappe's chances are very low.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on January 27, 2023, 08:39:02 AM

Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:22:42 PM

You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.

i think I need to rephrase you on your statement. Messi actually has won his greatest achievement as a football player which is probably the world cup and i don't think fifa is going to give any other player the ballon dior than Messi who deserves it most. Leonel Messi is truly amazing with his football the guy has won almost everything a player would ever which to win. Currently the player with the most ballon Dior, messi is just simply the real GOAT of football.

I absolutely believe that Lionel Messi will win the Ballon d'Or this year. Because he is ahead in all aspects. The biggest thing is that he won the World Cup. And ahead with goal assists as well.

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:22:42 PM

You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.

i think I need to rephrase you on your statement. Messi actually has won his greatest achievement as a football player which is probably the world cup and i don't think fifa is going to give any other player the ballon dior than Messi who deserves it most. Leonel Messi is truly amazing with his football the guy has won almost everything a player would ever which to win. Currently the player with the most ballon Dior, messi is just simply the real GOAT of football.

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Taking the 3 criteria for the award, individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career, Messi looks like a likely contender. Another probable is Mbappe, both from the same club and both the worldcup finalist. But when I'm talking about how I feel, even though he couldn't participate in the world cup, Erling Halland is a worthy for the award than anyone else. Messi already have it some many times that it would not feel like an huge achievement for him.

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There are amazing individual performances each season, but if that does not add up on a collective level and in the real objective that is to win competitions, so, well done! It club having most talented player. But...!

So it is the case here, how many soccer legends are indisputable on an individual level but who delivered nothing to the collective (clubs, team national)

So yes, great players, great statistics, but football is what you leave behind in your club and the tournaments that you manage to win for your country, that is the magic of great players that differentiates them from that great elite. Is there any doubt about the winner.

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I am not going to make another reply because I would be doing what you do "Spam", so I will answer you here:

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 08:49:24 AM

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I absolutely believe that Lionel Messi will win the Ballon d'Or this year. Because he is ahead in all aspects. The biggest thing is that he won the World Cup. And ahead with goal assists as well.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 08:54:17 AM

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Had Mbappe's team won the World Cup, he would have won the Ballon d'Or. And he is far behind Messi in terms of assists. So it can be said that Mbappe's chances are very low.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on January 27, 2023, 09:02:45 AM

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The player who leads the year in all aspects. He was selected as the player of the year. The style of play, assists, goals, how he played a role in winning the match is judged in all aspects.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 13, 2023, 06:14:03 PM

I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.

If Messi doesn't win the Ballon D'or in 2023, then I think the election for the Ballon d'Or winner is very unfair. what an extraordinary achievement for Messi because he managed to bring Argentina to win the world cup. even so, mbappe also has a great chance to win the 2023 ballon d'Or because he managed to bring france to the world cup final and became the top scorer in the world cup.

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If i had to look at it through the eyes of a football fan, i like all the candidates on this voting list. Mbappe is no exception, I really like to see his style when playing, especially if he is running fast while dribbling the ball. unfortunately, he is not equipped with a polite attitude or like other football stars, Mbappe has an ego that is too high. However, that doesn't mean I don't like it. it's just that, it's not yet time for Mbappe to win the ballon d'or award this year. maybe, one day Mbappe will reach it.

I'm not going to comment too much on Messi, he has achieved what he wanted. getting an award or not, yet the fact is, Messi has got what he wanted, namely the world cup trophy. For Haaland. I'm sure he will be a big star in the pursuit of individual awards. be it top scorer, best player, Haaland always qualifies for it.
Lewandoski, I like this player even though he is 34 years old. Lewandowski, can be counted on to score as many goals as he can for his team.
for the rest of the candidates, all of them are ace players in their respective teams and they have extraordinary talent. whoever wins this award event, then he deserves to get it.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 16, 2023, 10:07:40 AM

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It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

i think also indeed the most likely rivalry is mbappe and messi for the ballon d'or because both of them played well also in the world cup and even the league, i don't see the other one has potential but i believe one of the two will win it that Ballon d'or

Messi is the main man for the the price and also Mbappe is a good competitor that is a great rivalry of Messi. We all know that Messi just won the world cup and also other prices that he had won which I think will make him win at this time again. We don't need to argue this because FIFA with definitely give it to him as the current GOAT.

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Quote from: Doell on January 15, 2023, 08:11:54 AM

It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

i think also indeed the most likely rivalry is mbappe and messi for the ballon d'or because both of them played well also in the world cup and even the league, i don't see the other one has potential but i believe one of the two will win it that Ballon d'or

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Definitely still too early to predict, but Messi has a big upper hand after carrying Argentina at WC. Since he is on the same team as Mbappe then if PSG becomes the UCL champion and Ligue 1 champion, it's pretty much also points for Messi. Other players like Haaland, De Bruyne, Lewa, etc. are still far away, and they can catch up only if their team wins UCL & respected league. Plus don't forget that the jurors were biased towards Messi as he became the best player even when he was not performing well. For Ronaldo, well, no hope since he's pretty much as good as retired.

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It seems in my opinion is that Messi can get the Ballon d'or trophies, he is the best at the moment because he looks impressive at world cup and can bring Argentina to win the world cup, although I want Mbappe which to win that trophies. Because this person is Mbappe, if we see at the top score of the French League as well as the UCL and last in the world cup, he have a chance also to get the ballon d'or but if compared with messi this guy still leads. As for Ronaldo, I'm not sure that after move to Al Nassr, can he still to be a candidate ?

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Quote from: Merit.s on January 13, 2023, 06:09:41 PM

This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.

You have a slightly distorted surname in the survey Erling Haaland, who is having a great season and if it were not for WC, he could make serious competition, although he is now in third place.
So far, yes, the undisputed leader to receive the golden ball is Lionel Messi, Mbape could approach or bypass him if France could win the WC in Qatar, but this did not happen and I think Messi is really the main contender for the Ballon d'Or.

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