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January 15, 2023, 09:01:00 AM
#18
I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.
It's hard to separate who is the best between MBappe, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and many more. Receiving an award is not just an individual performance but the team, country, club the player is associated with. Everything ranks up their public PR. Do you hear much name of Luka modrić or Robert Lewandowski? Because not many people from around the world is watching Croatian and Serbian leagues. As a county they are not as strong as Brazil, Argentina or France. Ronaldo made it exceptional for Portugal though.
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January 15, 2023, 07:35:29 AM
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You can't actually designate a best player around the world. A lot of players have been of great value to the team in their own way. Should you then look at the prizes won? Then certain players would not have a chance on the basis of the World Cup because their team is not good enough for that. Examples are Salah and Mane just to name a few. Since Messi became World Champion with Argentina, the prize will probably go to him again at the next election. But Messi was certainly not the best player at the World Cup. I personally thought Mbappe was much better, as witnessed by all his goals in the final and he has also become the top scorer.

You're being bias if you say Mbappe played better than Messi in that world cup tournament. Out of the 7 matches Argentina played in Messi was the MOTM in 5 of them. In that final too Messi was a better payer than Mbappe. Mbappe was awful, like every other French player till they got the penalty. From the very first match of that tournament Messi was the difference maker for Argentina. He would play the midfield and help control the game, he would create chances, give assist to his players and also score. Mbappe score two penalties and a screamer in the final and all of a sudden he was better than Messi?

Aside the world cup triumph where Messi was unarguably the best player in the tournament, hes also in a pretty good form for PSG with 27 G/A so far. PSG even struggle without him these days. Its always funny when you guys equate the highest goal scorer to the best player. Same way most people never rated Mane at Liverpool because Salah was the highest goal scorer so y'all thought he was the best player.  
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January 15, 2023, 06:45:20 AM
#16
I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.

Was Luka Modric also the World Cup winner the same year he was awarded the Ballon d'or?
Lots of report says Greizmann who won both Europa and World Cup right, but wasn't awarded that.
It's obviously Messi, you can't just take it to someone else, one day I pray to see Lewandoski getting the Ballon d'or he missed as a result of Covid nineteen. It would be officially Messi at the end of the day.
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January 14, 2023, 10:08:41 PM
#15
This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.
It's still 10 months left, the winner will be announced in November, we still don't know the nominated yet. So all about speculation, which mean a player winner of the world cup be a 1 of nomination. when we look: Source



Familiar name like Messi, Mbappe, and Haaland is still dominant. But I don't know how you put the name Ronaldo?, I still confusing his name is still dominating after the controversy he made. So, I hundred % believe he will not get it for 2023. because he don't make any achievements in 2022 besides a piece of negative news.
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January 14, 2023, 06:03:49 PM
#14
I think Mbappe will be Messi's strong competitor for the Ballon d'Or 2022/2023, because both of them played very well also in the world cup and also in the club, besides that I don't see the progress of other great players from national and club levels apart from them
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January 14, 2023, 05:48:43 PM
#13
I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.

It's a difficult year this time around because nobody really had an amazing year so far, lets see how it's going to be, no benzema going around yet, and we still have plenty of time to go around, we still have to wait and see how players will do for a while before we get to make a decision yet.

i have the feeling that they may choose Mbappe. but we don't know the mood of the judges. it can very well goes to Messi. from the poll in this thread, Messi is the only one voted. so it is only between Mbappe and Messi, but who knows?
based from this BALLON D’OR 2022: HOW DOES THE FORMAT FOR THE BALLON D’OR WORK? CHANGES MADE TO FOOTBALL’S PRESTIGIOUS AWARD

the 3 main criteria they will consider are = individual and collective performance from the previous season, a player's class and their career
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January 14, 2023, 05:34:22 PM
#12
I do agree that Messi had a decent year, and that world cup thing is definitely an important aspect of being a good player, being the best player in a team that won the world cup definitely gives you a chance. But at the same time, we are talking about being the best player for a whole year, and I think Mbappe was a lot better than Messi even though they lost at the finals.

It's a difficult year this time around because nobody really had an amazing year so far, lets see how it's going to be, no benzema going around yet, and we still have plenty of time to go around, we still have to wait and see how players will do for a while before we get to make a decision yet.
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January 14, 2023, 05:02:51 AM
#11
I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.
I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.


Ballon d'or is like an award recognizing the achievements AND the individual skill of the player. It isn't really a great measure of greatness IMO, because only winners can be granted this award even if they played kinda lackluster compared to others who didn't win the Cup. I think everyone here agrees that Messi should be the one receiving this award due to his win, and it's hard to contest this because he's been renowned as one of the most talented players to ever play in the field and he finally got his world cup win.
I will vote for Mbappe,he did better than Messi in the world cup,he was the highest goal scorer and he is a determined player who has so much quality at his young age. Though,the ballon d'or is given to a player based on his achievement on that year and it happens that Argentina won the world cup with the help of Messi,meaning Messi deserves to win the ballon d'or.

Messi is FIFA favourite player and FIFA, will be very happy to declare him the winner of this year.Messi has scored more goals than Mbappe,973 goals in his appearance on 1003 matches. He is also the highest ballon d'or winner. I guess Messi has come to his last state of winning,Mbappe will be the player we will be looking up to.
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January 14, 2023, 03:07:44 AM
#10
Messi will very likely be the winner and his team mates will be a strong contender for the Ballon d'Or this time, Erling Haaland has really stood out after playing for City but it looks like he still needs some time before he can get one, but is there a bookmaker who has this markets now, it's interesting if I can find it I tried to check the stake but haven't found it yet
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January 14, 2023, 02:37:09 AM
#9
Hi guys
it is in the new lately that Christiano Ronaldo has sold his 2013 ballon d'or trophy to Israel's richest man - Idan Ofer

According to the report on dailypost, it is said that the plaque was sold at a whooping 532,000 pounds and the entire amount going to Make A Wish Charity Organization.
The buyer - Idan Ofer is said to be worth over over 8.1 billion pounds, so this proves he is indeed capable...

What do you guys think about this?

you can read the entire update on Dailypost.ng


I think that if Ronaldo wants to sell the ballon d'or, I think it is his choice, we all certainly don't have to comment on his decision, after all, many sports athletes sell their medals and trophies even though they should be kept for collection and made into memories. history for him in his old age
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January 14, 2023, 02:19:06 AM
#8
Hi guys
it is in the new lately that Christiano Ronaldo has sold his 2013 ballon d'or trophy to Israel's richest man - Idan Ofer

According to the report on dailypost, it is said that the plaque was sold at a whooping 532,000 pounds and the entire amount going to Make A Wish Charity Organization.
The buyer - Idan Ofer is said to be worth over over 8.1 billion pounds, so this proves he is indeed capable...

What do you guys think about this?

you can read the entire update on Dailypost.ng

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January 14, 2023, 01:27:04 AM
#7
There's no need any discussion or prediction to see the winner of Ballon d'Or in this year, it will be 100% Messi.

I know there's many good players like Mbappe who have carried France to score 3 goals alone in the final world cup, Lewandowski who have carried Barcelona into become top 1 position in La Liga, Haaland who have carried Manchester City and currently become the top scorer in Premier League, and De Bruyne who currently become the best midfielders of his job become a play maker for Manchester City.

Ronaldo, Neymar and Salah has zero chance.

From my personal opinion, Mbappe or Haaland should receive the Ballon d'Or, but many judges are biased with Messi or Ronaldo, so Messi will take the place.
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January 14, 2023, 01:04:37 AM
#6
I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.
I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.


Ballon d'or is like an award recognizing the achievements AND the individual skill of the player. It isn't really a great measure of greatness IMO, because only winners can be granted this award even if they played kinda lackluster compared to others who didn't win the Cup. I think everyone here agrees that Messi should be the one receiving this award due to his win, and it's hard to contest this because he's been renowned as one of the most talented players to ever play in the field and he finally got his world cup win.
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January 14, 2023, 12:33:08 AM
#5
I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.
I heard in the commentary of the final match they were talking about it.
Argentina wins then Messi will get it but if France wins then it will go to Mbappé. Messi is the deal here.

I don't think these awards can define players like Messi, Mbappé, Christian Ronaldo, Neymar Jnr., Robert Lewandosk, Luka Modrić. All of them are great in their styles and achievements.
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January 13, 2023, 07:22:42 PM
#4
You are right, Messi won the world cup which is one of his greatest achievement in history. He is the one that has won ballon d'or more than any player in history. The world cup is the greatest  amongst all competition in football and Messi has really shown that he is the best this year with a brilliant performance in the world cup and in PSG.
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January 13, 2023, 07:19:51 PM
#3
You can't actually designate a best player around the world. A lot of players have been of great value to the team in their own way. Should you then look at the prizes won? Then certain players would not have a chance on the basis of the World Cup because their team is not good enough for that. Examples are Salah and Mane just to name a few. Since Messi became World Champion with Argentina, the prize will probably go to him again at the next election. But Messi was certainly not the best player at the World Cup. I personally thought Mbappe was much better, as witnessed by all his goals in the final and he has also become the top scorer.
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January 13, 2023, 07:14:03 PM
#2
I mean, Messi won the world cup, right? Isn't that what this award is all about? It's not really a judgement of the player itself, it's what they've achieved. It sort of ignores individual qualities, and what they've done individually for that year, and only really rewards the players that have actually achieved something. Messi, obviously is one of the best players to play the sport, but ultimately winning the World Cup likely sealed the deal.

I remember in previous years there was quite a bit of controversy over the Ballon d'or because Benzema who probably performed individually the best, didn't get it simply because he didn't achieve anything massive, whereas other candidates did.

If you can't tell, I'm not a massive fan of the Ballon d'or.
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January 13, 2023, 07:09:41 PM
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This is a place where you can predict the best player of the year
Player that will win balloon d'or of the year.



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