Topic: Balthazar's trust (Read 1050 times)

Your existence is like a magnet for scam.

I just want to refresh the memory of the users who are longer on this forum and in crypto world. For trusted newbies could be also interesting a little excourse to the past. Here on the forum itself are many topics with scam accusations or with his scammed projects. Let's walk trough some of them:

1) rucoin - not premined shit. Scam from the beginning. What was the main pool? Balthazar's pool. Where it was traded? btc-e. Is there a relation? Rhetorical question.
2) ltcmine - Balthazar's scammed ltc pool. Many people never got their money, topic is closed. Check the source - there is another relation to btc-e and an interesting link (there are actually A LOT of topics like this) to scam accusation of Balthazar or and btc-e.
3) novacoin - not premined scam created this time by Balthazar itself and traded on btc-e (surprise, mf!)

As you can see, I kept the chronological order: from one scam to another. Many people lost a lot of money, but Balthazar is still trusted. Now even more than earlier because of new trust system. Many times I wondered how he always could spit on the community and got new sheeps for his new scam projects. Maybe because of great support of his throll/friend team and btc-e, which was more or less trusted and covered him. But the times of btc-e are passed, everyone knows now it was just big scam, throll team has changed and is tiny now. And you, guys have the opportunity to finish Balthasar's scam walk, before it is too late another time. If you check his signature, you will see, he has another "project" running and it is qwestion of time until the things going to repeat. And if you check this, you will find out that they try to relaunch nova... Balthazar enjoys throlling, he throlls the community for very long time, maybe it is time finally to stop him? Someone who has power here, do not forget that you have also responsibility to protect new users. That is why our trust system was initially made for. I do not want to be the one who will say, I told you.

Lol. I see that nothing changes in this world and my very existence is still like a magnet for the mentally ill people.  

KTChampions - fraudster

Yes, that’s pretty logical - why don’t you write from your main account? Apparently Balthazar has a complaint to you (in form of feedback) that you cannot dispute, so you are trying to "wholly" challenge his right to leave trusted reviews. I'm not trying to troll or hurt you, but your behavior looks exactly like that from the side.


Ouch! Why are you writing to him? Do you really not know his ability to produce spam in huge quantities? 

Hi korner -- how can a person be a scam? Are they an android pretending to be a person? I've always wondered what you meant by that.

Balthazar - IS SCAM.

He is hired by Alexey Biluchenko (Admin of WEX.NZ) to scale that scamish platform

Balthazar is trusted by people with more weight, I see almost big green pluses. The users who distrust him on the other hand are almost all with minuses. It looks like that are two separate sides because many of them distrust also each other. Nice system... It can clean scammers and produce trust wars. Well, it is based on people, so what can we expect. Anyway I do not want to discuss the trust system. I just have doubts that someone is going to exclude him because he has so great support of weighted users. And if someone does it, he should have enough balls to ignore exclusion of his support.


Fun fact about Balthazar:




So, in other words, my accusations are absurd because "I created alt". Nice argument. Very logical. Scammers love that kind of stuff: changing topics, throlling. I remember too good, when some shit was happening around Balthazar or btce everything around was full of throlls. Yeah, something never changes. At least now is clear with you and with other ignorant users, who is who and what is happening.
Last thing. I do not assume anything. Everything is based on public and well known facts.

If you assume that your position has at least something to do with truth and reality, then why are you hiding your face? Why did you create alt? It seems to me that you perfectly understand the absurdity of your accusations, therefore you cannot express them from the main account 

Very simple: Balthazar is included and excluded by 2 DT1 members, which puts him at DT2 (0). One more exclusion (which could be because of changes in DT1, which is expected in a few days) and he's out:

(the links to "Trust list" in my quote above don't work yet, this is a sneak preview of today's Trust list viewer update. The links will work in an hour) Done

Today I was witness of "another drama in ru locale". Someone was complaining about Balthazars feedback. I was thinking: c'mon, man, who cares what some scammer says, why bother with his feedback? But then I recognized, Balthazar's feedbacks are trusted. WOW. I have soo many questions.

How is that possible that someone,
- who created scam project NOVACOIN,
- who created mining pools, which were scammed over and over again
- and who is closely related to BTC-E/WEX scam exchange

can be trusted and judge people?

Then I was searching for old topics with accusations of this user and I found this one... Well, I see nothing has changed in ru locale. New faces, same shit. But now scammers can paint people. Nice. Looks like something is wrong with this plus/minus system. Hey, check his trusted feedbacks: "a good coder"! Fuck me... "a good coder", ahaha ah. A good coder who failed so many times and did not take any responsibility. Well, maybe he is really good coder, he just knows when to take profit and start new project

Anyway, I have another last question to the people with all that great positive feedbacks KTChampions, Ratimov, lovesmayfamilis and also Veleor: do you realize who Balthazar is or what is going on here? This guy is one of those scammers, who made people spit if they hear about new project from some russian speaking team. And now he is great again and that is your responsibility. Sure, it is not like the friends of a scammer are scmamers also, but why do you support a scammer then?

There is every reason to believe that, while BTC-e may not have been your brainchild, you were very much connected to it on multiple levels. Whereas your puerile attempt to dismiss such by way of false equivalence lacks both evidence and reasoning.

1. Your mining pool's launch and BTC-e's launch occur within a couple of weeks of each other, along with your mining pool being an official partner of BTC-e
2. You already admitted that you provided technical consultanting to BTC-e
3. You asserted in this article that the founder of BTC-e, Alexey, was your friend
4. You were a moderator at BTC-e
5. You launched your own PoW/PoS coin, heavily instamined it and had it listed at BTC-e within days on an exchange which was known to be particularly difficult to get coins listed on

@Cryptodevil, it seems logical to me to look at a person who is involved with some old scamy exchange at any official position for long time, points towards him being friendly and involved with the main authorities somehow. Some of the evidences like Novacoin being listed immediately makes the sentence more stronger and titled towards the exchange authorities engagement accusations.

But as @Balthazar said here,


He was just an active community member at first and later became moderator as other active members of the community and continued without any rewards. This nowhere makes Balthazar shady or untrustworthy to trade with as even if he choosed wrong peoples to work with he still does right things at a right time. His weight of his good deeds and knowledge here are very much weighty than him just working with an exchange, even as someone just like pseudo-official.

At last it comes to personal judgment while painting trusts, but someone who is in DT should atleast have some solid base to his accusation, rather than saying there is no evidence against his claim hence he is right.

Balthasar is a victim. He has been injured most of all at that story. He is not hiding and proved to all russian locale that he is honest man which has been slandered by "Red Admin" supporters

Cryptodevil, please be merciful, take off or replace your feedback to neutral

All russian locale asks for him. Balthazar is a man of the word. Cryptodevil, please, forgive him. We will never forget your mercy

"Worked" is a too strong word. BTC-e was widely known for its usage of public resource as the donation. From the administration point of view, moderators and consultants were ordinary members just like others. The only difference is that they were able to communicate with admin in jabber, delete chat messages and ban users. Nobody got any kind of reward for that, as far I know. Any respected user could become moderator and there were 30-50 of such people in both russian and english chats. That was going this way until their policy has changed in some moment prior to 2017. All volunteered moderators and consultants were disbanded and replaced with employees then.

These are notable facts known for everybody who wants to find them. Of course, some people like to practice doublethink and pretend that volunteer moderators were employees, but it's their own psychological issue.

Don't pretend that I'm a fool. Yes, you did it repeatedly, even here in this thread. These aren't plain words since I've consulted with my lawyer, Edward Donovan from Donovan & Associates. And he assured me that your actions have signs of defamation, which is illegal in the United States. These carefully added "likely" and "possibly" words aren't turning your accusations into opinion. Yes, this may be difficult to prove in the court, but don't pretend that it's a worthy excuse for such activity.

Achievement unlocked. It looks like Comrade Winston decided to borrow a typical argument from his predecessors. Unsurprising and quite expected move because every troll in russian locale already knows how to write Novacoin Tales. Yep, the point is that they were trolls, not DT members.

Do you really consider a link exchange and moderation as kind of business partnership with a shady background? Are you sure that it's not a trolling? Let me to ensure once again, are you talking this rubbish seriously?

Another of my well-known atrocities is that I authorized Donald Trump to start his presidential campaign.

Of course. I became a member of their secret order after killing the virgin in the front of other respected comrades. After that we had a nice conversation about Flat Earth before few russian prostitutes peed on me. We're russians and that's how we're doing our shady business.

These are my words and that's truth. But there are another pieces of history you're missing deliberately.

1. Instamine is not a crime in any way, it's just a technical issue unless it's hidden. Especially if it was destroyed.

2. Client was published in chat a day before BTC-e decided to list it and made announce. That is a solid fact and it would be sillish to deny it. There were number of people who have seen it and that was written in the chat logs. You can't simply say that they didn't exist, since it would be like pretending that Comrade Withers never existed. Network hashrate reached few gh/s in a matter of hours and that should be self-explanatory to any sane individual.

It seems that Comrade Winston is somewhat offended due to buying some overpriced altcoin and being unable to sell it. Let me guess, it was LTC, right?
If I made a right guess then he should get back to his work in the Ministry of Truth and dedicate some time to invent yet another story about Comrade Ogilvy.

Like I have said two years before, the problem I have with this statement is that there is no evidence to support the claim that cryptodevil did not rape children.
That would be the same "higly-likely" story which is full of "would be"'s.  Presumption of innocence or factual evidence? No, never heard of.   #cryptodevil #metoo.

Except that I'm unanonymous person which is still not in jail. Every of your words clashes with that simple truth. It's a kind of "ridiculous!" spell from Harry Potter universe, which results with turning you from cryptodevil into cryptoclown. Are you claiming to be smarter than american and russian authorities? Well, then that would be a nice example of Dunning-Kruger effect in action.

Maybe you will tell me, why should I spend any more time on you? I'm asking seriously because I see that 2 years term was not enogh for you to evolve and come up with mature arguments. I give you one more chance to prove that you're a useful person which is able to participate in real conversation. C'mon, give me something to excuse that waste of time.

Your feedback is too subjective, because with the definition of "untrustworthy" a DT member is able to link any user which he disliked, if desired.
I'm sure many people on the forum don't want to argue with the DT members because of such situations.

Read what a negative feedback should be given for:

If a person worked as a chat moderator and consultant at the BTC-e exchange, and there is no proof that he was in leadership positions there, then how does this relate to the high trading risks?
When you think that a user is not trustworthy, but you don't have solid facts, then there is an option for this (~).

Cryptodevil, please, at least replace your feedback for Balthazar to neutral

Balthazar is a very good man, we are all trusted him. Please be merciful

I'm always willing to review historic trust ratings, albeit in this instance I would clarify that I did not accuse Balthazar of fraud, I asserted that his connection to BTC-e rendered him untrustworthy in my opinion. Frankly, given the points I raised in dm with Veleor, even if I were to revisit this rating as it stands I would likely only modify the BTC-e relationship text to that below as well as raising the issue of the sketchy nature of Balthazar's Novacoin launch and listing on BTC-e:


Well my trust rating doesn't actually charge him with fraud, it merely asserts that his connection to the exchange leads me to conclude that he is not trustworthy:
He certainly was a representative of BTC-e, by way of his deep involvement with it as I have explained and I have used the word 'possibly' to caution that he may have also been involved in its creation, be that by way of his self-professed position as technical 'consultant' or otherwise.

Frankly, while there could be an argument to be made against the trust rating I gave him, it would only be that I'd probably re-word it to focus solely on the facts related to his known involvement with BTC-e and the shady launch of his own cryptocurrency, which would still leave me of the opinion that he is not trustworthy.

Unless you have evidence to the contrary I would struggle to justify removing a negative rating entirely.