Topic: Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED) - page 3. (Read 3908 times)

Well, Have you verified his claims? I excluded him from my trust list in December 2021 which can be found on the LoyceV Trust list Viewer

That was already discussed in this thread too. I have explained why I don't trust his judgment;


So this is not just because he doesn't support my ban appeal. There are a few more people doesn't support my ban appeal. Did I exclude them? Do you still believe it's tempered?

If banned users can change and delete old feedback, the system has a bug! This should not be happening; banned users should not be able to access anything other than the "only read mode." Theymos should get up and fix up. Satoshi won't like this.

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Yes, I PM'ed Him twice. One right after creating this thread, Another one a few days ago. I have PM'ed theymos, Cyrus, hilariousandco and mprep. mprep already replied me;

I hope I did not get you wrong. Why do you think by tilde a user naim027 tampered the system?  

It's exactly the reason I said if a user was shitposter and would not have any contribution then I would not show him a mercy good faith (I think mercy is a wrong choice of word which I used earlier).

naim027, have you requested hilariousandco to check your case? He is one of the most active global moderator who cares a lot to response user in the concerned threads.

hysterics?

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.

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One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

Is this user causing more trouble than doing good?
Will the forum profit more if he/she is gone and can't post anymore, or if he/she stays?

There are many ways in which people can do good, which would then be beneficial to the forum. If the person will be missed in any way in which they contribute to Bitcointalk, the admins could consider a lighter sentence. 

I don't know because I am not banned. 

But my guess goes to

• User only can modify their trust list after a ban
• User can not write a new trust feedback or remove existing trust feedback after a ban
• naim027 can confirm it if he want

Agreed. It's always good to check back why I created my plagiarism thread:
Those users won't be missed by anyone.

I think we should be more lenient for users who copied some text from another website because they found it interesting.

In reality, that was a mistake. I only noticed it because LoyceV mentioned it; he's always that one guy who sees everything. It was an error of one extra "0," which would have been difficult for any random user to notice.

Well, there is always that one person who believes in us no matter what, but we don't always realize this until we get into trouble. naim027 I hope you now know who your true gees are.

Why would the system prevent banned users from accessing the merits system while allowing them to access the trust settings? If banned users can provide or remove feedback, we're in big trouble. The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

What is your point? If today for some reason your account is banned then you are saying you will not pressure moderators. I highly doubt. You seems to enjoy hurting others with unnecessary arguments. If signature campaign was not exists then I highly doubt you would contribute to the forum at all. I saw many users who do not wear signature at the beginning, they think it helps them to build up a quick reputation. I read a few response in scam accusations against dulebit (topic a, topic b). A JollyGood is completely opposite in the threads. The aggression you show towards others was missing. In fact from the response anyone will easily mistakenly think that you are hired by them to advocate for Duelbits. Why did I miss the suspicious character of JollyGood but see a completely new JollyGood who single handily taken the lead to clear their employers name?

I would also like to see naim027 to get his account unlocked. If he was a completely shitposter then I would not show him any mercy.

The amount of pressure a low rank and newbie account takes in the forum, someday we will find us isolated from the internet.

That's not "gaiming the system", it doesn't matter for the system. Being banned makes the forum read-only, and adjusting your Trust lists changes how you read the forum. Banned users could be on DT1 but won't be re-elected since they can't fullfill the "post within the last 30 days" requirement. So their Trust list only matters to themselves, and the users who included them. In naim027's case, those are 2 users who aren't included by anyone else, so that's where the "gaiming" ends.

It's possible, and makes sense. I'm now curious if a banned user can also create or remove feedback.

I'm a bit more lenient towards plagiarism than I was when massive numbers of shitposters were spamming many boards with posts they copied from a few pages earlier. The Merit system took care of that.
I'm not a Mod, so my opinion doesn't matter. For what it's worth: I didn't report naim027 for plagiarism when I first saw it, because in this quoted post he instantly admitted not being the author, and clearly he didn't know about the plagiarism rule. But I'm not a babysitter, so if a user doesn't fix all his plagiarism after a warning, that's just dumb.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

True indeed. This thread should be only about discussion on the ban/unban and reason for removing the ban. It’s surprising that how some people are bringing how much Naim would earn in Bangladesh and how much in the forum and a comparison. People should know the average income of a country doesn’t mean everybody earns that amount only. Also, there are some more stupid discussion going on.
I can't remember if I have posted in this thread more than 1 time before. As I said, he was a great contributor in our local thread. Some of you may know how low quality thread it was back in the day but now it was getting some good discussion every now and then. Losing a member like Naim from our local discussion would be a great loss, at least I consider in that way.
Good luck Naim.

Ah yes thank you, that 2nd case I heard about was @hacker1001101001, just couldn't remember his name as I don't see him around anymore.


Its true that RegulusHr got unbanned after 2 years, but in that period he wrote only 6 posts and I don't think that he went around PM people asking for support. The more active you are, the more desperate you will appear.


If he is here only for the money, "moving on" would mean creating the new account and starting from the scratch which I think many of those permanently banned do, and that's one of the reason why I would like to see signature ban being used more. It of course doesn't mean that people would stop making alt accounts after getting banned, but I do think that some would rather continue being active on the main account.

If we talk about the fact that today's ban rules are no longer relevant and do not work for the user, Mr.Right85, then let's officially declare this.

So far, more than one topic has been created with rules on plagiarism, and so far we see that there are no solutions. That is, do the rules work? Did I understand correctly?

Then let's go back in time and ask, those users who were banned in the past, and received privileges from the moderators for unlocking their account, what did they pay?

I was that user. Many thanks to the moderators for their attention and kindness.

I had a two-month ban on posting on the forum, and after a year-long ban on wearing and participating in signature companies.

Now, given that many here agree that naim027 is of value to them on the forum, maybe it's worth being fair?

Isn't it a fair move to ban participation in the company's signature? Deadlines are set by the moderators, but again, it should not be less than a year, right?

However, as suchmoon said, you should not turn your appeal into a "dear diary"


But this guy is not endowed with modesty and patience.
Unfortunately. He invites the topic through the PM. Is it like waiting patiently? I see it as a requirement.

I am not sure what should I say now. Should I laugh or should I cry? Do you ever see that Lending Service accepts Applications below Full member rank? I don't think you have read the rules of my lending service thread. I don't think Any service wants to give loans to Jr. Member or a Member ranked member. If they do, I think it's too risky. I didn't want to take the risk after shasan and Little Mouse warned me.


PP, No matter whatever you say. But, it looks like a few of you guys are angry with me and trying to figure out every possible negative thing. Why so personal? Kudos to you guys.

I agree that the Mr.Right85 case sets a precedent. If from now on the forum is going to be much more lenient with plagiarism issues, they could make it public and thus give free rein to plagiarism much more than it is already done.

In the case of naim027, since you mention this:


I take this opportunity to quote the last post of the thread. Someone commenting on his ban:


Those of us who trusted him and no longer do, and those who never trusted him, see in this type of actions something premeditated that probably has more to do with what that comment says than with something altruistic.

Thanks for your support. I want to correct it a bit. About 70 posts, not all of them are plagiarized. I wanted to say, From 2017 to October 2021, I made only 70 posts in 5 years, and not all of them were plagiarized. Back then I was not on any signature campaign. I received my first merit on October 16th, 2021. On the date of November 19th, I had only 60 Merits.

The Post Poker Player mentioned was made on March 30 2021 and I had 0 merits back then.

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There was a history of being unbanned after two years. Don't act like you don't know anything. About another thing, let me quote myself


One more thing, He was always on my Distrust List. If you want to check, Check Two month ago's data.

An interesting bit of information, thank you.

I would have thought a ban would constitute not having access to the forum after logging in only to read a message about being banned. However, to be banned and yet still be able to access sections of the forum such as a trust list and read only PMs could have some benefits for the banned user. If that is the case then the banned user should at least use that privilege carefully and not to use it to distrust people who simply agree with the ban.

I cannot recall someone literally begging to have his account unbanned for such a long period of time, there is simply a desperation in his attempts to receive a reprieve and that is because he wants to start earning his signature campaign fee. That is his driving factor here and nothing else.

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

Maybe I missed some posts here but it is not important and silence does not mean opinion was changed. My opinion is my own and not affected by LoyceV or The Pharmacist.

I wrote my reasons above, clear enough.