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Topic: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 (Read 1540 times)

legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
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The good news is that LTU_btc got 10 more merits for that post after wolwoo brought it up here so it's been a positive impact albeit not intended.

I will continue to send merit in big batches to posters who are steady merit earners and need a boost for the next rank. Personally I don't care about ranks at all but some people do and if they are good posters I consider it my obligation to help them out, especially if our paths don't often meet for me to merit many of their individual posts.

What this has to do with the ban evading sockpuppets - remains a mystery to me.

maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero Wink you deserve(!) it now

I can send 50 max but thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated.

Oh yes your men are precious, ours are not worthless?
90 if you call your partners. or give 40+ next month
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
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The good news is that LTU_btc got 10 more merits for that post after wolwoo brought it up here so it's been a positive impact albeit not intended.

I will continue to send merit in big batches to posters who are steady merit earners and need a boost for the next rank. Personally I don't care about ranks at all but some people do and if they are good posters I consider it my obligation to help them out, especially if our paths don't often meet for me to merit many of their individual posts.

What this has to do with the ban evading sockpuppets - remains a mystery to me.

maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero Wink you deserve(!) it now

I can send 50 max but thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
Was trying to get a hang of this drama, Came across @wolwoo arguing over a 50 merited post with Suchmoon raising question on his giving LTU_btc 50 merits.

everyone in the same position

What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt?

Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.

This is what LTU_btc wrote:

--snip--
theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol.
There have been multiple instances where lot of users go without merit because their posts aren't seen by too many. LTU_btc is a fairly idenitifiable member because of the frequency of his posts. He frequently used to post in beginner sections which means he was helping out newbies. He missed being legendary compared to his peers by a pretty small margin. Keep in mind that getting legendary status was a random event above near-about 700 activity.
I think suchmoon saw that post and judged from his post quality that he was probably short changed when it came to becoming legendary. Merit sources who have huge quotas often find it difficult to spread it to all the users they would consider worthy. I think Suchmoon did it as a simple shortcut. Trying to find 10 merit-worthy posts from the thousands would be time consuming.

If he is a fairly known member, maybe he decided to grant him those merits. This is a subjective judgement that is understandable. Maybe consider LTU_btc lucky that suchmoon's eyes fell on that post. I won't say it is completely free from bias but it is what it is. Even TMAN proposed to offer a particular member 50 merits when he receives his refill. These are open instances of people knowing each other through the forum, not of people being relatives and then benefiting each other on the forum.

Your meriting a user 50 posts, and then those posts getting deleted isn't really all that convincing. This would be considered pretty shady for someone who is a DT1. Also, the fact that you accepted that those were people you knew makes it pretty bad.

Imagine if I am a merit source. If i made it a business to tell my family and friends to join and then merited their posts to up-rank them so that we could all earn more of "tokens", then that would be a pretty shitty thing to do.


I don't know what you think Sathoshi wanted this forum for. What we do know is that there is a certain bit of idealism in that approach. There are elements of being upright, fair and transparent. Not doing things like copying articles and then calling it "Ohh, but its not a big deal, right?" Things that may be considered street-smart don't really make the cut when judged against uprightness.

Maybe if you or these other people actually owned up to these shortcomings and mistakes rather than make excuses, there wouldn't be a need for this endless defense and excuses of racism/ national insults (LOL, seriously??).

Don't make it about the country. From what I've heard about Turkey, its a nice country. This girl I know wanted me to watch this show that had main characters Hayat, Murat. Sweet, romantic stuff. I didn't watch past 3-4 episodes but the songs are good.

yoo bravo

you lick well Cheesy
maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero Wink you deserve(!) it now
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1159
Was trying to get a hang of this drama, Came across @wolwoo arguing over a 50 merited post with Suchmoon raising question on his giving LTU_btc 50 merits.

everyone in the same position

What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt?

Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.

This is what LTU_btc wrote:

--snip--
theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol.
There have been multiple instances where lot of users go without merit because their posts aren't seen by too many. LTU_btc is a fairly idenitifiable member because of the frequency of his posts. He frequently used to post in beginner sections which means he was helping out newbies. He missed being legendary compared to his peers by a pretty small margin. Keep in mind that getting legendary status was a random event above near-about 700 activity.
I think suchmoon saw that post and judged from his post quality that he was probably short changed when it came to becoming legendary. Merit sources who have huge quotas often find it difficult to spread it to all the users they would consider worthy. I think Suchmoon did it as a simple shortcut. Trying to find 10 merit-worthy posts from the thousands would be time consuming.

If he is a fairly known member, maybe he decided to grant him those merits. This is a subjective judgement that is understandable. Maybe consider LTU_btc lucky that suchmoon's eyes fell on that post. I won't say it is completely free from bias but it is what it is. Even TMAN proposed to offer a particular member 50 merits when he receives his refill. These are open instances of people knowing each other through the forum, not of people being relatives and then benefiting each other on the forum.

Your meriting a user 50 posts, and then those posts getting deleted isn't really all that convincing. This would be considered pretty shady for someone who is a DT1. Also, the fact that you accepted that those were people you knew makes it pretty bad.

Imagine if I am a merit source. If i made it a business to tell my family and friends to join and then merited their posts to up-rank them so that we could all earn more of "tokens", then that would be a pretty shitty thing to do.


I don't know what you think Sathoshi wanted this forum for. What we do know is that there is a certain bit of idealism in that approach. There are elements of being upright, fair and transparent. Not doing things like copying articles and then calling it "Ohh, but its not a big deal, right?" Things that may be considered street-smart don't really make the cut when judged against uprightness.

Maybe if you or these other people actually owned up to these shortcomings and mistakes rather than make excuses, there wouldn't be a need for this endless defense and excuses of racism/ national insults (LOL, seriously??).

Don't make it about the country. From what I've heard about Turkey, its a nice country. This girl I know wanted me to watch this show that had main characters Hayat, Murat. Sweet, romantic stuff. I didn't watch past 3-4 episodes but the songs are good.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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So you have nothing to say on the topic of goraset's ban evasion but you'll keep posting anyway? Gotcha.

Good job trying to heed yahoo62278's advice by posting a couple of paragraphs although that's probably not quite what he had in mind.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it.

Report this merit abuse to theymos then. Now can we get back on topic? Do you have the post that goraset merited? It's a very much yes/no question. Let's see how valuable it was.

yes "cryptotalk" right!
and upper limit 5
I replied because he blamed it.

I take it as a "no" regarding on-topic then. Luckily for you not-yobit pays quickly so you already got your 5 paid posts in and you won't suffer financial consequences once this gets cleaned up.

marlboroza spoke about cryptotalk, so I replied.
Why are you in the position of prosecutor questioning everything. you're the one who talks to the "Turks".

in the forum merit received messages are permanent, "delete merit from deleted messages" and open your request to @theymos. Why are you telling me? did I write the rules? You try to justify yourself by prolonging and demagoguery.

I understand you, this is a "busy shop", and you want to keep your position. you are a useful member but for some
You put a system in place and you don't want it to fail. You don't want someone like me who interrogates and opposes what you say. you have to be superior and you have to show it to everyone but you can't Cheesy
You're really lucky because my English is weak or I'd knock you out with my words ... Wink

I respect my campaign manager and leave my words here.
please do not give right to answer
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 4554
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing


Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes.

yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.

If you write it properly, I will take care of it.
avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer.
Its not yobit, its Cryptotalk for one. It also does not REQUIRE anything. You can be paid for 5 posts per day, that does not mean you have to do 5.

Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple.

yes "cryptotalk" right!
and upper limit 5
I replied because he blamed it.
You have 15 replies out of 42 in this thread which is roughly 33% of the replies in this thread.

To top it off, most of them are 1 liner trash. I'm ok with a user defending themself but this subject isn't even about you, yet you feel compelled to being the main topic for some reason?

Just because you type 2 words and go down a line then type 2 more words and repeat, doesn't make it not 1 liner trash.

9 shit posts 6 ok replies. Grow thicker skin man and move on unless defending yourself. This topic has nothing to do with you, let the person it's about defend themself.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it.

Report this merit abuse to theymos then. Now can we get back on topic? Do you have the post that goraset merited? It's a very much yes/no question. Let's see how valuable it was.

yes "cryptotalk" right!
and upper limit 5
I replied because he blamed it.

I take it as a "no" regarding on-topic then. Luckily for you not-yobit pays quickly so you already got your 5 paid posts in and you won't suffer financial consequences once this gets cleaned up.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148


Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes.

yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.

If you write it properly, I will take care of it.
avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer.
Its not yobit, its Cryptotalk for one. It also does not REQUIRE anything. You can be paid for 5 posts per day, that does not mean you have to do 5.

Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple.

yes "cryptotalk" right!
and upper limit 5
I replied because he blamed it.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 4554
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing


Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes.

yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.

If you write it properly, I will take care of it.
avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer.
Its not yobit, its Cryptotalk for one. It also does not REQUIRE anything. You can be paid for 5 posts per day, that does not mean you have to do 5.

Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself?
You asked for the account of 50 merits
I asked too

I didn't ask anything. Marlboroza asked to see the post that got 50 merits from goraset because the post is now deleted. Have you provided the post? Please do that. That would be on topic here. Instead you found a post that got 50 merits from me. That's off topic regardless of how you feel about it.

Here is the link of the deleted post that goraset sent merit to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2932403

Have a precedent in the judiciary, ask him to look at your own behavior when asking someone else

maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself?
You asked for the account of 50 merits
I asked too

I didn't ask anything. Marlboroza asked to see the post that got 50 merits from goraset because the post is now deleted. Have you provided the post? Please do that. That would be on topic here. Instead you found a post that got 50 merits from me. That's off topic regardless of how you feel about it.

Here is the link of the deleted post that goraset sent merit to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2932403
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148


It's definitely somewhere in that post, keep reading and don't post again until you figure it out.


hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself?
You asked for the account of 50 merits
I asked too


This has nothing to do with this thread so in addition to your fallacious reasoning you're also breaking forum rules with your off topic posts even after being explicitly asked by the OP to stop doing that.

You will do anything not to lose your "strong" position here!

but everyone sees and knows everything.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Where is 50 merit quality?

It's definitely somewhere in that post, keep reading and don't post again until you figure it out.

This has nothing to do with this thread so in addition to your fallacious reasoning you're also breaking forum rules with your off topic posts even after being explicitly asked by the OP to stop doing that.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.

whataboutism non sequitur false equivalence

I win, pay up.


I remember seeing similar activity calculator few years, but now I can't find, maybe it doesn't works anymore. After release of merit system, activity isn't such important thing anymore, but it's still interesting to check estimated date when you can rank up. So, thanks for making it.
One fun thing related to this topic - theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol.

Where is 50 merit quality?

yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.
Fair enough. You have exceeded your daily post quota so see you tomorrow then.

if you thirst.....
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.
Fair enough. You have exceeded your daily post quota so see you tomorrow then.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148


Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes.

yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily
today 34th my post
this is 35.

If you write it properly, I will take care of it.
avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.

whataboutism non sequitur false equivalence

I win, pay up.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
you may not have a alt account (maybe) they know (marlboroza and timelord)
I have been accused of a lot of
Perhaps you should go to thread where someone accused you of being someone's alt account to talk about accusation about being someone's alt account.

Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes.

I just figured that I missed something in this post:
tl;dr:

Quote
I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts

Cool story.
Cousin/friend has the same voice as goraset? Shocked
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
everyone in the same position

What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt?

Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.

Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post!

"Sending merits to a cousin and a friend is not forbidden"

Just saving our Turkish friends some time here so that they don't have to type that excuse.

you may not have a alt account (maybe) they know (marlboroza and timelord)
I have been accused of a lot of

You're talking about sending it to your "friend and cousin", you're kidding for turkish "friends"
then you send 50 merits to an ordinary message

there is also no difference between sending pieces and sending them all at once

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=suchmoon

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