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Topic: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 - page 2. (Read 1541 times)

legendary
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legendary
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everyone in the same position

What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt?

Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it.
legendary
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Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post!

"Sending merits to a cousin and a friend is not forbidden"

Just saving our Turkish friends some time here so that they don't have to type that excuse.
legendary
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So scammer and liar writes text wall and some users take that as a proof that they are telling the truth Cool
1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum
...something mday used to say.
1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission
So you didn't read thread? They did not admit anything and it was more than one case of stealing.

Side note: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52907237. No merit for 3 high-level connected accounts(cheating, plagiarism, ban) ?

Double standards!  Tongue


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Oh, why bothering with anything here, smart person once said:

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if you are going to take a large system with includes scammers, and you decentralize that system's trust, some of those scammers are going to wind up on default trust.
Source: possibly KWH



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I can't find threads and 2 posts worth 50 + 10 merits:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2002907
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2932403

Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post!
legendary
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He apologized for this infraction

Definitely not copy and paste, only some of the sentences are similar, same project and  similar sentences, it's normal I think

Which part of that sounds like an apology?

Or is this the apology?

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Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

Or did he apologize (for something he definitely didn't do) at some point later somewhere else, where the affected parties can't see it perhaps?
legendary
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ok there are a few things going on in this situation which I believe the mods and admin should take into consideration before passing judgement:

1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum, for this he got a neg rating from multiple members already, and this is the primary reason for the ongoing beef some members including Marlboroza have with him for several years..
He apologized for this infraction, said he was new to bounties at the time; what I note from that encounter is that he gave me some examples of many members back in those times, using copy pasted / plagiarized entries for bounty articles, and yet to his knowledge he was the only one who got a neg rating for an identical bounty submission... (I think the reasoning was that his own entries were submitted as links by other people and they got paid, so he had to resort to same in cutthroat competition of 2017 bounty environment)...

I'm just pointing all these out for 1 time as context because lack of interest and defense by some Turkish members on these incessant dramas should not be interpreted as a tacit admission to anything...  

2) the_doctor account: it's the first I ever heard of this account, but goraset recently gave a sincere explanation about this in Turkish which some members have already translated in part, take it for what it's worth.

3) All in all goraset strikes me as an intelligent rational human being with diverse and net positive contributions to the forum. He has made a mistake in the past, which he paid for by being blacklisted from bounties for 2-3 years (and counting). The fact remains that especially during bull runs, the bounties become extremely significant income sources in many parts of the developing world. It's not so outlandish and bizarre as some might think, that in these cases some knowledgeable members invite their brothers, cousins, close friends, wives and girlfriends  Smiley to open new accounts and partake from the financial potential presented by the crypto space.

If later one of these side / alt / indirectly related accounts or whatever you call it makes a dire mistake and gets banned, should you go hunting the original account owner, who introduced all these people into the world of crypto currencies, and make him suffer as well ?..

This seems to be the most likely scenario in goraset's case, although it's not my style to pursue these details like an obsessed detective, so it's up to the staff & admin to decide naturally.


All the Best


very nice @Vispilio  Smiley
I hope @goraset will remain and benefit from your friendship, knowledge and experience.

I haven't merit, sorry bro Cry
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolwoos-merit-source-desire-5205906  Wink
legendary
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ok there are a few things going on in this situation which I believe the mods and admin should take into consideration before passing judgement:

1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum, for this he got a neg rating from multiple members already, and this is the primary reason for the ongoing beef some members including Marlboroza have with him for several years..
He apologized for this infraction, said he was new to bounties at the time; what I note from that encounter is that he gave me some examples of many members back in those times, using copy pasted / plagiarized entries for bounty articles, and yet to his knowledge he was the only one who got a neg rating for an identical bounty submission... (I think the reasoning was that his own entries were submitted as links by other people and they got paid, so he had to resort to same in cutthroat competition of 2017 bounty environment)...

I'm just pointing all these out for 1 time as context because lack of interest and defense by some Turkish members on these incessant dramas should not be interpreted as a tacit admission to anything...  

2) the_doctor account: it's the first I ever heard of this account, but goraset recently gave a sincere explanation about this in Turkish which some members have already translated in part, take it for what it's worth.

3) All in all goraset strikes me as an intelligent rational human being with diverse and net positive contributions to the forum. He has made a mistake in the past, which he paid for by being blacklisted from bounties for 2-3 years (and counting). The fact remains that especially during bull runs, the bounties become extremely significant income sources in many parts of the developing world. It's not so outlandish and bizarre as some might think, that in these cases some knowledgeable members invite their brothers, cousins, close friends, wives and girlfriends  Smiley to open new accounts and partake from the financial potential presented by the crypto space.

If later one of these side / alt / indirectly related accounts or whatever you call it makes a dire mistake and gets banned, should you go hunting the original account owner, who introduced all these people into the world of crypto currencies, and make him suffer as well ?..

This seems to be the most likely scenario in goraset's case, although it's not my style to pursue these details like an obsessed detective, so it's up to the staff & admin to decide naturally.


All the Best
legendary
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1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one?

Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice.


for me the case is closed


RETALIATE!!! MARLBOROZA HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT BAN EVADING PLAGIARIZING FUCKWITS IN DT!!!
TRUST ORGANIZED CRIMINAL MAFIA THREAT ABUSE GANG BANG BANG THEYMOS SEE THIS!

@wolwoo, first of all there is no gang, it is all in your head.

Second, if I remember correctly, and my memory still serves me well, when lauda was kicked out of DT (was it last year?) actmyname and I re-tagged many accounts, including me tagging account goraset.

It is not my problem if you don't want to read thread linked in reference and/or you have read it but you are ignoring that they stole someone's translations, presented them as their own and have tried to claim and/or claimed bounty rewards.

Third, I looked at your trust page and I see that you have included me on this date http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/1003533.html so there is no chance that in the last 3 months you didn't see  negative rating on that account, and you really never wondered why negative?

Last thing I will say about this is actually a question, why have you included me if you think that I am "gang member" and you obviously don't trust my judgment?

your job: mafia
kidnapping (from the forum)
threat
silencing
organized crime network
Yallaahhh

@theymos solve this, I trust @theymos
no more idle words
Do you usually trust people who you think they are criminals?

because you didn't support the flag that timelord opened to us

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flag-dt-ring-creation-discussion-merit-abuse-collusion-to-harm-bct-5181603



I thought you were a good guy and decided you were reliable. I wish this right decision would continue. but instead you've accumulated. In the meantime, you also sent me message. Foxpop's sad message was above that. Probably triggered it. DT1, 10th anniversary, merit source, etc. The reason I shared this message was to Foxpop, which added me to the distrust list.

Why did you explode? There was nothing about you!

Removed:

Foxpup
Sigh. First I miss out on the art contest badges, now this. There is no justice.



I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise


I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone Smiley



I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise

I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone Smiley

Exactly, insects, you got that right, seems that I missed your post, so you are the one who included scammer and ban evader to your trust list:



Second DT1 account which included scammer to trust list is:




And yes, you will see me very very active because I am very very pissed right now. Fucking scammers and ban evaders becoming DT1 members.

my message date>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 04, 2019, 03:24:05 AM


your action:

Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1>>>>December 04, 2019, 05:17:58 PM

message you sent me   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:20:16 AM   

Ban evasion by DT1 member - please permaban account - case #2  >>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:28:29 AM


who ordered this war?


"Foxpup has rented my Avatar for 6 weeks now, and made the weekly payments with impeccable punctuality."



someone rich enough to rent an avatar? Someone who doesn't want to get his hands dirty!
HUH!
legendary
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1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one?

Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice.
legendary
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"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?

And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation.




1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent.
If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flag-organized-ethnic-hatred-against-the-turkish-section-timelord2067-5181723  >>
legendary
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"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?

And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation.
legendary
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Cool story.
It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?
It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?

don't provoke!
goraset is a good person to me, I don't care what you think!
10th anniversary contest, DT1 memberships, source of merit...
You're just jealous! You melting!
these places were satoshi's legacy for you! you lose, humanity will win

I also say again: don't portray yourself as the king of these places because you are not!
legendary
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Cool story.
It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?
It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?
legendary
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r u understand?

It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned.  When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum.


25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return?
copper member
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r u understand?

It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned.  When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum.


25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
legendary
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tl;dr:

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I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts

Cool story.

"multi not forbidden"  r u understand?


Çoklu Üyelik Kullanımı
Forumda çoklu üyelik kullanımı ile ilgili bir sınırlama bulunmuyor. Aksine kendinizi daha rahat ifade edeceğinizi düşünüyorsanız yeni hesap açarak ana hesabınızdan bağımsız şekilde yazmanız teşvik edilir. Burada unutmamanız gereken nokta bir hesabınız banlanırsa hiçbir hesabınızı ceza süresi boyunca kullanamayacağınızdır. Ban üyeliğe değil, kişiye veriliyor.


"Multiple Membership Usage
There are no restrictions on the use of multiple memberships in the forum. On the contrary, if you feel more comfortable expressing yourself, you are encouraged to open a new account and write it independently from your main account.
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legendary
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tl;dr:

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I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts

Cool story.
legendary
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Konu self-modarete yazacaklarımda kısmen konu dışı ama bu başlık takip edildiği için buraya yazayım dedim.
Meta da şöyle bir başlım açılmış, banlanmamı istiyor arkadaş, iki kelam edeyimde içimde kalmasın ban yersem
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-evasion-by-scammy-dt-member-please-permaban-account-case-1-5206872

Başlıkta bahsi geçen hesaplardan criproturk ve the_doctor u ben açtım. the_doctor u bir sürede kullandım .
Ama bounty olaylarının hızlandığı dönemde birini kuzenime birini arkadaşıma verdim. İşi öğrenmelerine yardımcı oldum. Bazen aynı adresi iki hesapta da kullandığımız olmuş, bende başlıkta şimdi gördüm.
Bide Dontcry. diye bi hesapla beni ilişkilendirmişler ama bu arkadaşı tanımam etmem, benim sosyal medya hesaplarını bountye katılırken kullanmış sanırım, muhtemel benim postları copy past yaparak bountylere katılmış.
 the_doctor hesabı banlandı, criptoturk de arkadaşta hesabı aktif kullanmıyor bildiğim kadarıyla. Bounty işi bitince geldikleri gibi gittiler. Bu yaptıklarım ban sebebiyse banlasınlar ne diyim.

2013 den beri forumdayım. Şimdiye kadar kimsenin beş kuruşunu almadım. Kimsenin zarara girmesine sebep olmadım. Aksine cakir, bobmarley, anancra, guwera fonlarında kayıplarım oldu, adını bile hatırlamadığım yerli bitshares üzeri dex projesi vardı ordan ufak bir pay almıştım battı, stunna isimli genç bir arkadaş vardı , borç istedi verdim , bir kısmını ödemedi,  herşeye rağmen yerel topluluğun gelişmesi için maddi ve manevi katkı sunmaya devam ettim. Etmeyede devam edeceğim

Tüm bunların dışında forum benim hayatımın merkezinde değil 36 yaşındayım evliyim 3.5 yaşında bir oğlum var. İyi bir işim ve tr şartları için ortalama üstü bir gelirim var.kripto paralar biraz hobi, biraz ek gelir, daha çok da eğlence benim için, ama zorla forumdan soğutuyorlar. Yabancı hesaplarla sidik yarıştıracak ne enerjim ne vaktim , nede yeterli ingilizcem var.  Sadece sizler bilin diye yazdım.
Hadi kalın sağlıcakla,

Here you go
I'm tired of translating,
some of you
legendary
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Nice finds there Yoshie.

OP: which is the "Banned" account Your thread says "Ban Evasion", but I'm a little unclear which account is banned?

*edit*

Never mind: Found it: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=the_doctor (Time for coffee)

legendary
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Your finding is very good, but please, lets keep this thread for goraset's accounts, unless there is solid connection between Dontcry. and goraset. Also, don't forget to read edited post number 3.

Not sure if Dontcry. just copy/pasted previous post
There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him
Twilight zone  Roll Eyes
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