Topic: Ban Legendaries from signature campaigns - page 2. (Read 2744 times)

The signature campaigns are designed to incentivize shitposting, and that's what they do. It isn't complicated. 

This is very funny, even a Global Moderator (hilariousandco / hilariousetc) utilizes this forum to earn a living by signature campaigns using two accounts. LMAO!

Every single time there is an easy thread to reply to, spammers flock to it. Lending threads by newbies. Account auction threads that are "missing information". Obvious scams. Gambling scripts. And anything in Gambling discussion that asks a vague question.

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Check out this thread: https://archive.is/jl8aS

They continually repeat the same thing: "this strategy won't work for long". I find that the FortuneJack campaign never returns anything of value.

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ICO.


↑ Disregarding the first reply to the thread, this one is essentially the only one that contributes 'unique content'. From now on it's a cesspool of recycling. If only they recycled in real life half as much!

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Typical chunk of low-effort information. ICO.


Repetition.


Repetition, agreement, ICO.


Repetition, agreement, FortuneJack.


Recycling, agreement, ICO.


Recycling, agreement, ICO.


ICO.


ICO.

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These replies should be trashed, the thread should be trashed, and they should have their post count permanently lowered by 50. That'll teach them.

All of the above quotes were consecutive, by the way. So it's a consecutive string of bullshit replies.

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EDIT: And of course, someone revives this scam thread with their idiocy. (Flippybit.io)

Nothing specific with legendaries, but some signature campaigns cause a lot of spam.


Sounds easy but there's a lot of spammers and not many mods. Hard to prove a scam as well.


The problem is that the ICO campaigns generally don't have many rules/they aren't very strict on the rules, so people aren't removed.


If it's poorly managed and filled with spammers, I would say yes.


Maybe because you might be a spammer yourself? I didn't understand that sentence very well. You realize you can post without a signature campaign.

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Banning legendaries is quite useless and if someone wanted to not 'promote', they can delete their old posts and delete activity, causing them to stay Hero Member forever.

Actually what's wrong with legend and signature campaigns?
If people abuse their rankings by spamming or scam just ban them, is not that easy?
Anyway, all any signature campaign has rules and if the rules are violated just ban them, is not that easy?
Why close the ICO campaign? Does the ICO campaign make a big mistake in this forum so it should be destroyed?
I really do not understand with all this, I just want to be longer in this forum, but it seems impossible.

Good point. There would be ways to deal with this for url shorteners but there are plenty that establish their own external sites and link to them.

If the rule was accepted, maybe a 'report signature' link and just leave it up to other members to report altcoin/ICO advertising sigs to mods?

And, maybe a bit extreme, but why not just disable external links in signatures all together?  Force all signature links to stay within the forum. Inspires more local traffic on the forum and would allow the aforementioned block of any signature linking to the altcoin section. I would think this may also create a desire for real advertisers to want banner spots on the forum to have a better chance at driving traffic to their own websites and sort of requires them to maintain a thread on the forum as well, if they want to advertise through signatures.

Yes I agree with you we also should ask google to ban billions of people searching using their search engines but after a few days it will be no longer google as we know it today, when you see useless posts in important and main boards just report for mods to remove, other than that forum needs the posts counts/ activities and the traffic.
Now you agree with me or not?


I love you @ hilariousandco 

They will just cloak the links. Most urls go to off site anyway. Theymos said he can blacklist entire campaigns signatures but this has been requested several times since we came up with the sig guidelines thread but so far nothing has been removed.

Correct, it doesn't really keep it in its own little quarantine because they all just leave and roam the forum posting crap to get their bounties or whatever marketing they need to do. In addition, they build up their account status and have an optional bonus waiting for them at the end through account selling which then opens up a market of accounts for larger scammers.

New rule?  No Altcoin/ICO advertising in signatures

Would it not be easy to blank out/block a signature if any link inside of the signature links to any thread under the altcoin subforums? ... making this a somewhat mod-free approach.

Agree with hilariousandco for the most part,  and spoetnik made some good points in another thread about theymos, and how this forum needs his support with regard to shitposters and account farming.  The community does a good job with the feedbacks but there needs to be more rules.

As for OP, I smell jelly.  Sig campaigns are a fantastic way to earn bitcoin, but it encourages the same lame posts from the same pathetic posters. 

We have moderators here right?
I think they are doing their job in keeping this forum clean.

But why fire to the legendary users when signature campaigns are the ones who wants to accept them?
They even made an effort to create a signature code for them.
Well, they have options to not accept legendary users if they want to. (Maybe you could talk to every campaign manager or dev for that). 

Ain't it going to be more chaotic if they are not accepted?
They have the possibility to just create another account just for the purpose of joining signature campaign and again and again.

Oh and there is this blacklist by the managers now so it is not that easy to join when every campaign is using this SMAS list.
So cheer up. Everything is good.

I've brought up this point before as well. And half of the ICOs apparently don't even offer alt coins but just tokens or shares or whatnot (though I don't look too much into them). I don't think theymos will kill that section either because of the amount of traffic it generates. I don't mind the alt coin section as it was created to keep the alt coin crap in its own little quarantine and I largely stay out of it, but with ICO campaigns that spam is spread out over the entire forum which shouldn't be acceptable.

This is Bitcointalk. The forum shouldn't cater to altcoins at all. Why give them the audience & platform to confuse people and take away from Bitcoin?  Just get rid of the altcoin section entirely and get back to discussing Bitcoin.

I think Legendaries are the least of concern. It's the legions of shitposters from developing nations with dozens of accounts each trying to earn a living when they can't even speak English that are the problem and the shitcoin campaigns that will happily pay them to do so.


Yeah. This forum allowed me to stop putting my own money into bitcoin which was and still is a potentially risky venture and it paid off for me. I got paid over ten btc from PrimeDice alone over the duration of their campaign and I never sold the coins so that's currently £18K in value currently so not bad merely for posting. I have nothing but respect for people who choose not to partake in signature campaigns due to moral or ethical reasons but if I can get paid for doing something I would do anyway then that's awesome to me. I'm very appreciative of the ways I've been able to make money from this forum as it makes my life a hell of a lot more comfortable and I get to invest in bitcoin with nothing but my time, but it is sad and very frustrating watching the forum degenerate into what it has with it basically just being somewhere for people from poorer nations to earn a living by squeezing out the most basic of posts over numerous accounts (or just copy and pasting other's responses).


But this isn't true is it. If it was then the forum wouldn't be full of shit from wall to wall. I've always said that signature campaigns could actually clean up this forum if they were run properly and only paid for quality posts but unless we start banning the users or campaigns who run terrible campaigns it's just going to get worse. If every campaign was run like Lauda's Bitmixer etc then there would be no problem but when you've got numerous alt coin campaigns popping up every month accepting hundreds of users regardless of quality and doing absolutely nothing about the content of posts or removing spammers they are the ones causing 99% of the spam. You can literally farm hundreds of accounts and get accepted and paid for every single one like this user did. They should never have even been accepted onto the campaign in the first place but multiple campaigns had already paid them to do so. When I told their current campaign manager about the users he first said he can't see anything wrong with them (not that he even checked them before I told him about them):


That user had over 200 accounts banned all on one campaign at the time. I'm sure he's still posting on others as well.

There's half a dozen ICO campaigns that popped up over the last month alone and they're all paying hundreds of users to make the same sorts of posts and there's many more farmers that I know of who still need looking into. These ICO campaigns are both lazy and greedy and don't give a shit about the spam as long as the shit is getting smeared all over the forum promoting their scam but it needs to stop. If you pay for these sorts of posts your accounts should be banned, all threads trashed and their signatures forcibly removed/blacklisted but without theymos' help nothing will change.

Ugh what's wrong with legendaries being on a signature campaign.
It's their choice and they have more contributions in the community.

Personally, I enjoy their presence and cuz I enjoy reading their posts.
It's very informative

Who cares? Most sig campaigns don't allow shitposting and spam. If someone wants to pay someone to promote their project, so be it. Even if you had $1000s of Bitcoins, why not earn a bit more by making a few posts? I know I would. Even if I had millions, I would still be in a sig campaign and earning extra money.

I think people who usually post this are rich and doesn't give a damn to the poor that's why to flame them with this kind of post. If a person wants to join a sig campaign let them after all the forum site/company the company that is advertising it and the members as well are all benefiting for everyone involve. Sig campaigns should be even considered as online jobs and people that doesn't know bitcoin you get interested in it after all trading and mining both requires some ridiculous amount of profit in order to get started to it. Some people use there bitcoins as their source of income and had to spend it daily to buy goods/services or help there people financially.

What's your problem with Signature Campaigns? They are great helps in advertising things.
I've joined multiple and it's really annoying to hear these complaining peeps complaining for whatever their reasons are..

You're either bullshitting us...have several accounts in signature campaigns...or still live with your parents.

No advertised rate for the 777 campaign pays anything close to what rent costs in New Jersey, USA. At least you admit that its "pennies"...even though it contradicts everything else you say.

The signature campaign I am in, if I post the max amount of posts its enough to pay my rent, so I do think its "pennies" if I was in yobit I could pay my rent and cell phone, if I was in bitcoin AG I could pay my rent cell phone and probably food for the month but that might be stretching it and I am in NJ. I can just imagine how people in foreign countries make off signature camps.