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Topic: Ban request for user: Snowshow - page 2. (Read 446 times)

legendary
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August 21, 2022, 03:05:51 PM
#6
@Marlboroza tried to achieve the same thing few years ago to no avail so unfortunately I don't think that you will succeed either.


Given that the user did not use any coin addresses or social network accounts that could be a link between his alt accounts, the only option left is to check IP addresses, but if it's a VPN or TOR, even that can be a dead end.
Was there ever a similar case, where someone got banned via shared IP address with the previously banned account?

legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
August 21, 2022, 02:02:51 PM
#5
Pointless discussions and trolling are against the rules, unless you're arguing he makes essential threads.
It is against forum rules but in most of cases, forum members don't get ban with this violation.

Even with very serious case, it is only temporarily ban and barely happens.

I don't know you knew or not, but the case of game-protect is a very good example. Even the community asked to ban that one, it won't happen. Until he changed from trolling to doxing. He got 2 or 3 temporary ban and the last one is permanent ban (mainly because of doxing).
legendary
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August 21, 2022, 06:05:15 AM
#4
I have no doubt that it is the same person and that if ban evasion could be proven, the matter would be completely clear - but I personally do not remember that someone was permanently banned for trolling or pointless discussion. Given that the user did not use any coin addresses or social network accounts that could be a link between his alt accounts, the only option left is to check IP addresses, but if it's a VPN or TOR, even that can be a dead end.

I personally think that ignoring members like this is not the best solution, because there will always be those who will somehow support him in pointless discussions, and one of his threads has even 42 pages. If the user does not get a perma ban, the only thing left for us is to be persistent in reports and not to support him by replying to his meaningless posts.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
August 21, 2022, 05:47:23 AM
#3
I disagree to ban Snowshow because of his drama creating non sense thread about Bitcoin
Pointless discussions and trolling are against the rules, unless you're arguing he makes essential threads.

What if people (including you) start ignore his account, so you wouldn't see a drama created by him anymore.
If we all start ignoring him, it'd have the same consequences as banning him. Why don't we do the latter since it's easier?

I think such thread should be moved to off topic section.
Absolutely not. This cancer is responsible for the most popular board's pollution. It's a topic that concerns the community. I've reported his recent thread, but it's stayed on "handle" for a day. That's the reason I submitted this request; I'm sure more users are annoyed. 
hero member
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August 21, 2022, 05:24:02 AM
#2
I disagree to ban Snowshow because of his drama creating non sense thread about Bitcoin, but I agree to ban Snowshow because of evading ban. I think theymos itself don't like a user which evading ban, I believe he can easily investigate by the IP address and if it's same, theymos can directly ban all of his accounts.

What if people (including you) start ignore his account, so you wouldn't see a drama created by him anymore.

I think such thread should be moved to off topic section.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
August 21, 2022, 05:13:34 AM
#1
I'm requesting a ban for user Snowshow due to violation of three forum rules. Specifically, ban evasion, troll posting and pointless talking.

1. Ban evasion.
Snowshow is the person behind multiple accounts, one of which is already banned. Specifically: fxsurfer (banned), antikvark, Antithesis. Besides raising the same kind of "issues", such as "Bitcoin has no value", "Satoshi lies", "Bitcoin doesn't exist", "Bitcoin exists to Satoshi's imagination" etc., they also have similar writing style.

Let me find some strong similarities that make a splash:

Numbers in a database:
Bitcoin is a name that creates the illusion of asset. And thus, a scam. Those who are in the system are deceiving people by claiming they own asset or money while only name and numbers attributed to their addresses exist. That's why one can benefit only if new investors enter the system. Hence, classical investment scam.
And now the questions: if I can purchase a picture of a sunset for a couple of bucks on Shutterstock and watch something aesthetically rich, why on Earth would I purchase number "1" for $37,000 and watch something aesthetically poor?
So bitcoin is just a worthless number in a database that was smartly disguised as a real money and market instrument in order to lure the public to purchase it. And this is basically how investment scams operate. Every investment scam uses some worthless item that is disguised as something valuable to attract investors. In our case this item was a number in a database.
Also, bitcoin is not a commodity. That's why bitcoin is NOT money. Bitcoin is just a fancy name for a DB entry.

Satoshi Nakamoto fools the world:
But regardless, Nakamoto’s false claims fooled many people around the world and made them to invest in the system.
Namely, an anonymous author called Satoshi Nakamoto wrote a computer program that sends quantity data to the virtual addresses of people who maintain a database with these quantities and addresses.
What you all have in common is that you were fooled into believing that you participated in an economic transaction. But you didn't. An economic transaction is the exchange of ownerships.

YouTube videos FTW:
Bank notes or numbers on my banking account secure the capital that I invested in them because the borrowers are forced, via collateral, to use these notes or numbers to repay their loans. Here you have video explaining that: https://youtu.be/p37Wg6h2PJ4

Or: https://youtu.be/aBl-O_3g_58
When I presented arguments like the one in the the video below, people just ignored them. Now, they will learn the hard way what it means to be a part of a Ponzi scheme.

Bitcoin And Cryptocurrencies - Ponzi Schemes Dressed Up And Sold As Money
https://youtu.be/gcNngl8fCUY
In the below linked presentation, Bitcoin is exposed as a fake investment product, which as such, is a total waste of energy. This also applies to all cryptocurrencies.

Why is bitcoin a fake investment product? Or, to put it another way, how do we even differentiate between real and fake ones. Well, it's easy. In a real investment product, your investment of property or work is invested into something actual, which in the future, can provide you similar benefit. In a fake investment product, your investment is not actually invested into something, but is rather, just transferred from you as a new investor to old investor. Historically, there is no exception to the rule that all such products end up collapsing.

The rest here: https://youtu.be/N5RKm7_scL4

Casino mania:
First, any price of bitcoin above zero is infinitely expensive (price of bitcoin devided by zero redemption value gives infinity). Second, bitcoin is similar to a losing lottery ticket, to a stock of a bankrupt company, to a currency of a former county or to a casino token of a bankrupt casino.
So, if that guy Satoshi claims that the numbers that his system is writing down are coins than he is actually claiming that someone has the liability to redeem them. Like banks redeem their records via loan repayments, like casinos redeem their records (tokens), like retailers redeem their gift cards, or corporations their bonds. But no entity exists that has the liability to redeem the record next to addresses in Satoshi's system.
Even casino chips are form of money as they grant specific rights, i.e. - casinos are legally obligated to cash chips they issued. On the other hand, when numbers are added next to someone's virtual address in a DB called blockchain, NOBODY is legally obligated to cash these numbers or to exchange them for goods or services, which means that no right is granted by bitcoin.

In fact, he's even reported of evading ban before.

2. Troll posting
This scumbag appears to annoy the Bitcoin Discussion board by making the same kind of posts wherein he reveals his completely lack of comprehension of the subject. No matter how many times we've debunked all these concerns he does did have, he'll just continue seeking for attention with the same nonsense; "Bitcoin is a scam", "Bitcoin doesn't exist", "Bitcoin is Nakamoto's ponzi scheme" etc.

3. Pointless discussion
As you might have understood so far, there's no point in having a conversation with him, because what he wants is to just make some noise so a few Internet strangers can take the time to engage with him. His furious behavior to create alts, just to be proved right, no matter the endless list of arguments we've used, proves it.

In 19th this month, he made another thread: Bitcoins are Not Real — Or how People Blindly Accepted Nakamoto's Nonsense. Can we just give an end to this drama?
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