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December 12, 2020, 09:37:51 AM
#51
Hamilton should be a rock-solid favourite. And his chances will of course be increased by the fact that a lot of major sporting events were cancelled in 2020, no Olympics, no Euro 2020, etc.

Regardless of these, he should be favourite anyway for this year becoming statistically the greatest ever in his sport. But he has suffered here in the past, winning 6 world titles before but only 1 sports personality win... so it's by no means a definite. There is also some establishment backlash against the BLM movement, in which Hamilton has been a prominent figure, so this could also count against him.
I don't know who you're referring to as getting angry with the BLM movement, but I don't think that the BBC is among them. The BBC is tricky to figure out because I read that the left-wing media accuse it of being right-wing, but conservatives say it has left-wing liberal bias. I think it's close to the center, so there's no reason for them to be against the BLM movement. That being said, I don't think any elites within the BBC or elsewhere matter in this situation because it's the public vote that determines the winner of the award, right?
I do agree with you that it's not a fact that Hamilton will win, though.
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December 11, 2020, 11:05:29 AM
#50
Hamilton should be a rock-solid favourite. And his chances will of course be increased by the fact that a lot of major sporting events were cancelled in 2020, no Olympics, no Euro 2020, etc.

Regardless of these, he should be favourite anyway for this year becoming statistically the greatest ever in his sport. But he has suffered here in the past, winning 6 world titles before but only 1 sports personality win... so it's by no means a definite. There is also some establishment backlash against the BLM movement, in which Hamilton has been a prominent figure, so this could also count against him.
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December 11, 2020, 10:46:03 AM
#49
I have followed Tyson since his comeback and his comeback made a big noise not only in the boxing scene but also in the world sports scenes he made a comeback by beating Wilder whom many thought to be an invincible fighter in the ring, he made headlines and made the British people very proud of him, so I believe he is going to take home the award for this year good motivation for him for his up coming fight.
Actually, it's not a good motivation for him, since he said he didn't even want to be on the list. He claimed he already has the love of the people, so he doesn't need recognition by BBC, even going as far as asking the fans not to vote for him. I wonder why he seems so anti-BBC, what could lead to this. It's not often that people say they don't even want to be considered for an award, right?
Moreover, what's the upcoming fight you're talking about? I believe he said he'll be back in 2021, and won't be fighting before then.
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December 11, 2020, 12:58:21 AM
#48
I have followed Tyson since his comeback and his comeback made a big noise not only in the boxing scene but also in the world sports scenes he made a comeback by beating Wilder whom many thought to be an invincible fighter in the ring, he made headlines and made the British people very proud of him, so I believe he is going to take home the award for this year good motivation for him for his up coming fight.
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December 10, 2020, 10:45:58 PM
#47
Chances are quite high that Hamilton will win, but there is no value anymore by placing a bet on him now. As a snooker fan and a fan of Ronnie O'Sullivan it would be nice that he would win and he also deserves it. He is the best player of all time, won more tournaments than anyone else, made more 147's and centuries than anyone and became world champion for a 6th time this year.

Given the lop-sided odds, it makes no sense to make a bet on Lewis Hamilton now. It may have made sense a few weeks ago, when his odds were >1.50. I still believe that there is still a fair chance that Ronnie O'Sullivan may win the award, but I am not that excited about Jordan Henderson or anyone else. I don't think that Stuart Broad has much of a chance, since last year the award was given to another cricketer (Ben Stokes). O'Sullivan deserves the award, but let's see how it goes.
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December 10, 2020, 08:05:32 PM
#46
Thanks for an update on Tyson Fury, guys! While he doesn't want to be on the list, BBC said a week ago that he's going to remain there, and I don't see updates since then about other decisions, so I think it's understandable that betting on him is still an option.
Lewis hamilton has been on that top list but denied the award every year and I guess this is his year. There are very few of other sports that went on this year and hamilton had been number one for a long time and after wining the Bahrain Grand Prix and missing some due to coronavirus, he would also have some sympathy. It would solid if he came to win another grand prix after covid and before the sports personality is decided.
I'd be very surprised if he doesn't win now, although I remember losing a multi bet on him, so I'm holding a small grudge and thus won't bet on him Grin
How about the closest runner-ups right now? Anyone who could actually beat him here? Anyone who deserves the award more in your opinion?




Chances are quite high that Hamilton will win, but there is no value anymore by placing a bet on him now. As a snooker fan and a fan of Ronnie O'Sullivan it would be nice that he would win and he also deserves it. He is the best player of all time, won more tournaments than anyone else, made more 147's and centuries than anyone and became world champion for a 6th time this year.
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December 09, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
#45
Thanks for an update on Tyson Fury, guys! While he doesn't want to be on the list, BBC said a week ago that he's going to remain there, and I don't see updates since then about other decisions, so I think it's understandable that betting on him is still an option.
Lewis hamilton has been on that top list but denied the award every year and I guess this is his year. There are very few of other sports that went on this year and hamilton had been number one for a long time and after wining the Bahrain Grand Prix and missing some due to coronavirus, he would also have some sympathy. It would solid if he came to win another grand prix after covid and before the sports personality is decided.
I'd be very surprised if he doesn't win now, although I remember losing a multi bet on him, so I'm holding a small grudge and thus won't bet on him Grin
How about the closest runner-ups right now? Anyone who could actually beat him here? Anyone who deserves the award more in your opinion?


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December 09, 2020, 03:21:31 AM
#44
Lewis Hamilton remains the favorite now. Meanwhile, Tyson Fury has rejected his nomination for the award, saying that he doesn't wish to be in the short list. He requested BBC to take him off the list (which was rejected by the broadcaster). BTW, the voting has also opened for the BBC World Sport Star 2020 award, with Lebron James and Armand Duplantis being the favorites.
Knowing that UK is known for their love of football, I would say it will be Jordan Henderson or cricketer Stuart Broad as my second best. Too bad, Tyson has to drop out, his story is something that evokes emotions.

So I read some articles why he rejected being included in the list and he's reason is simple, he doesn't need validation, he's already the people's champion. That's what he feels in this award.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/12/tyson-fury-rejects-bbc-2020-sports-personality-of-the-year-award-competition/

Anyway, he is still included in the odds of sportsbet -

https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/sports/bbc-sports-personality-2020
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December 07, 2020, 12:06:37 AM
#43
Lewis Hamilton remains the favorite now. Meanwhile, Tyson Fury has rejected his nomination for the award, saying that he doesn't wish to be in the short list. He requested BBC to take him off the list (which was rejected by the broadcaster). BTW, the voting has also opened for the BBC World Sport Star 2020 award, with Lebron James and Armand Duplantis being the favorites.
Knowing that UK is known for their love of football, I would say it will be Jordan Henderson or cricketer Stuart Broad as my second best. Too bad, Tyson has to drop out, his story is something that evokes emotions.
legendary
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December 06, 2020, 09:53:15 PM
#42
Lewis hamilton has been on that top list but denied the award every year and I guess this is his year. There are very few of other sports that went on this year and hamilton had been number one for a long time and after wining the Bahrain Grand Prix and missing some due to coronavirus, he would also have some sympathy. It would solid if he came to win another grand prix after covid and before the sports personality is decided.

The odds are very much in his favor, and the other players are far behind. It is unfortunate that he tested positive for COVID 19, which probably means that he needs to pull out of the Abu Dhabi GP. Anyway congratulations for winning the Bahrain Grand Prix last week. Apart from Hamilton, Ronnie OSullivan and Jordan Henderson are also in the race, but their odds are not that favorable.
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December 06, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
#41
Well, now it makes more sense. With all respect to Rashorfd, in 2020 he haven't made something very significant to become sports personality of year.
While Hamilton have great season, he won his 7th World Champion title and reached Shumacher by number of titles. Also, he overtake him by number of races won.
These who made bets on Hamilton earlier should make some nice profit.
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December 06, 2020, 08:42:59 AM
#40
Lewis hamilton has been on that top list but denied the award every year and I guess this is his year. There are very few of other sports that went on this year and hamilton had been number one for a long time and after wining the Bahrain Grand Prix and missing some due to coronavirus, he would also have some sympathy. It would solid if he came to win another grand prix after covid and before the sports personality is decided.
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December 06, 2020, 08:21:50 AM
#39
Lewis Hamilton remains the favorite now. Meanwhile, Tyson Fury has rejected his nomination for the award, saying that he doesn't wish to be in the short list. He requested BBC to take him off the list (which was rejected by the broadcaster). BTW, the voting has also opened for the BBC World Sport Star 2020 award, with Lebron James and Armand Duplantis being the favorites.
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November 29, 2020, 06:47:35 AM
#38
It's me again with an update about BBC Sports Personality 2020. The last time I posted, Marcus Rashford was the favorite, closely followed by Hamilton. However, new info suggests that he won't be in the short list and would instead get another BBC award for his work. The reason for this is that the Sports Personality award is first and foremost about sports, whereas he's more famous for other achievements (charity). More info is available here and here. As you can see, it's no longer possible to bet on him on Sportsbet, and Hamilton is way more likely to win than others (according to the odds, at least):
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October 21, 2020, 12:08:28 PM
#37
Hey everyone! I'm writing an update on the odds. As you can see, the situation changed drastically over these almost two months! Tyson Fury moved from the leader to #3, and the likeliest winner is now Marcus Rashford who used to be #4.

The award is still months away, so I guess serious changes can still happen with a favorite candidate losing his appeal and someone else gaining it. It seems that tokeweed and BIT-BENDER were right that Rashford deserves more attention. Do you think he'll remain #1?
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September 17, 2020, 09:58:16 AM
#36
Odds are still favoring Tyson Fury. Right now, he is at 1.93. The only other boxer in the list is Anthony Joshua (21.00). Joshua's odds are not that good, but who knows? After all this year is characterized by the BLM movement and we may end up having someone from the black community as the winner. How can the BBC, widely regarded as the kings of political correctness go against it?

very likely that Tyson Fury will be the winner this time. even at odds 1.93, you can still get a lil bit of money if he really does win. if he will win, the boxing community will celebrate!
 a lot of money will go into this event! now, you will think that we are not in crisis because  huge amount of money are still pouring in the betting business!
That could be true. But who knows, as they say we should expect the unexpected. I guess we can assume that a lot of money will be generated from this event as there are a lot of spectators. Amidst this pandemic it is a fact that betting business did not sleep maybe because it is one of the activity that most people do on their homes.
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September 17, 2020, 09:14:17 AM
#35
Odds are still favoring Tyson Fury. Right now, he is at 1.93. The only other boxer in the list is Anthony Joshua (21.00). Joshua's odds are not that good, but who knows? After all this year is characterized by the BLM movement and we may end up having someone from the black community as the winner. How can the BBC, widely regarded as the kings of political correctness go against it?

very likely that Tyson Fury will be the winner this time. even at odds 1.93, you can still get a lil bit of money if he really does win. if he will win, the boxing community will celebrate!
 a lot of money will go into this event! now, you will think that we are not in crisis because  huge amount of money are still pouring in the betting business!
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September 16, 2020, 06:02:27 AM
#34
Rashford made some pressure for kids to get free school meals or something so if he wins it then it’ll be a vote for him being a great person rather than what he did on the pitch.

Every well-known and well-earning athlete now does this, many also to just improve their image. Even Christiano Ronaldo donated millions to children and charity organizations [1]. That is definitely no reason to have a better chance of winning such an award. It should only be about the athletic performance and from the looks of it Lewis Hamiliton won rightfully.

[1] https://www.espn.com/soccer/club/real-madrid/86/blog/post/3317297/real-madrids-cristiano-ronaldo-has-long-list-of-charity-contributions

It will be wrong to claim that they are doing this charity work just for some cheap publicity. Even if that is the case, why we should complain about it?  In the end, the money is going to those who need it the most. What's the issue if Ronaldo or Rashford gets some publicity out of it. But I agree that these things should not be considered for awards and prizes. It should be solely based on the performance on field, and not off the field.
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September 14, 2020, 12:51:26 AM
#33
Rashford made some pressure for kids to get free school meals or something so if he wins it then it’ll be a vote for him being a great person rather than what he did on the pitch.

Every well-known and well-earning athlete now does this, many also to just improve their image. Even Christiano Ronaldo donated millions to children and charity organizations [1]. That is definitely no reason to have a better chance of winning such an award. It should only be about the athletic performance and from the looks of it Lewis Hamiliton won rightfully.

[1] https://www.espn.com/soccer/club/real-madrid/86/blog/post/3317297/real-madrids-cristiano-ronaldo-has-long-list-of-charity-contributions

Not everyone, and many of them do it because of their advisors and their publicists tell them to do it for good media relations. As the ESPN post feels to me just proves.

As much as I don't like United, Rashford's case is very different. He did it himself on his own, and he knows what it meant because HE was part of the system that ate the same free food when he was growing up.

So yes, if he wins it because of this, he has my support.
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September 13, 2020, 11:51:22 PM
#32
Odds are still favoring Tyson Fury. Right now, he is at 1.93. The only other boxer in the list is Anthony Joshua (21.00). Joshua's odds are not that good, but who knows? After all this year is characterized by the BLM movement and we may end up having someone from the black community as the winner. How can the BBC, widely regarded as the kings of political correctness go against it?
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