Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 348. (Read 1210752 times)

It didn't because of misinformation spread across the board that you have this magic miner and it is unfair for others to mine BBR, so it never got traction. Check Poloniex trollbox to see how much they just talk down BBR because of a "private miner". Now trollboxes are obviously not the place one needs to get legitimate info, but the coin would have done much better had you made the miner public, come out and helped users discuss BBR more in the forums etc.

Your latest post shows you have no interest in helping this coin. Yet you claim you hold a large amount as a long term investment. It is quite unbelievable all around what has happened to this coin's valuation.



How convenient for you to say this. Save your ensuing "it's a fact" drivel that would probably ensue.

you guys just dump and dump

so sad bbr is below 2 this time

You can't know that. Or more specifically you can't know what difference it could have made earlier.

The process of a coin getting any kind of following early on is one that depends a lot on bringing in miners. When there is zero else you can do with the coin (not even speculate on it much because the trading market hasn't developed), the potential audience is all miners.  And if most miners can't compete you naturally lose a big part of your potential early audience.

From the point of view of growing a community around a coin, 1000 or 5000 small miners is much better than a few big ones, especially big ones who are just going to move on to their next opportunity to rip through a new coin once they are done with this one.

Not that any of this is your responsibility though. It isn't your coin, and you owe the people trying to develop it nothing. You can and should do what you want and whatever makes you the most money.

how exactly did the open source GPU miner help the coin's valuation? right, it didn't.

Great possibility to attract attention of average miner.

Vote vote vote !!!

Are you gonna release the miner or are you waiting for the price to rebound ? FWIW I am just asking a question, I'm not asking you to do it. You do what you want to do. I'd just like to know so I can act accordingly.

Smooth speaks the truth here. I have read much of the XMR main thread over the past 3 month, and I can tell you that there is very little BBR-bashing there. I hope that I would find the same here regarding XMR.

Thanks to everyone who answered my question up-thread. This gives me a pretty good idea of some of the factors and forces that are at play here.

In the end, I still have a good impression of BBR technology and the future of coin. So I will be arranging my finances and looking for a good point at which to buy BBR.

Yeah.... And you still have not released your miner

I believe if someone make an effort and prepare procedure for easy adding BBR miner software to BAMT, could attract many miners as well ...
After that wild keccak algorithm should be added to nicehash.com (dynamic sell hash algorithms) and help to rise BBR very soon.

correct me if I m wrong...

There is a widely held perception that small miners don't sell off the majority of what they mine. I have no idea if it is true, but it explains a lot of the disapproval and suspicion of large miners be they farms, botnets, etc.

We were a team of four, and only two of us had the knowledge to run AWS farms. I never rented any AWS servers myself (surprise?)

We sold off the majority of what we mined to cover operating costs, to limit risk and to secure profits - making us no different from any
most other miners.

Our big scale farming operations are now pretty much shut down due to lack of profitability. Some of us still do home mining with 750 Ti's or other gear.

I still hold 15000 BBR as a long term investment.

+1

I believe that multipool miners are the problem for all Alts, every coin they mine is instantly sold  on the market. They are the only interested in instant profit, not long term innovation and cultural / currency revolution.

Combine that with instamine + POS and you create a whirlpool sucking everybody down.

Hopefully BBR will mature into the real world economy........and create demand that isn't pure speculation. Call me a bag holder but what I've mined I still hold.....not only BBR.

And yes I'll donate to devs if they request it for further advancements, so far they have delivered the goods

Please forgive the reply to myself but I would rather quote and correct here rather than edit and be accused of some kind of cover up or deception.

After checking my notes, ND was indeed part of the original team (though as I said the team wasn't really defined as such), and my recollection was incorrect. He wasn't quite as active in some of the early discussions, but he was definitely a part of it. Still, if his intention was to scam he would have just kept his discovery to himself. He didn't. Instead he released his discovery and continued to work on further miner improvements for public release.

This is clearly off topic for BBR and I apologize for polluting the thread with it, but there seems to be a bit of XMR hate here. Guys, work on building your own coin (and indeed borrowing good ideas from one another), not trying to succeed by tearing down another one. That's what we do.

You haven't been paying attention. There has been no XMR propaganda against BBR. We have always said that BBR is a legitimately innovative coin that stands apart from the other cryptonote clones. We don't always agree on the technical specifics of some of the changes but that takes nothing away from the effort that has gone into developing them.


Good theory, except that NoodleDoodle wasn't even a team member at the time. He discovered the first issue on his own, as an independent miner, and made us aware of it. If he were a scammer he would have just kept that to himself I guess, but instead he worked with us to get it released and that collaboration led to him becoming part of the team. To be clear though, the official team was not really announced or even fully defined until Missives #1 which came a month or so later.


You are confused and misinformed. There has been no vitriol from the core team about BBR (as opposed to say BCN, where I would say any criticism has been well deserved, but opinions might differ).

I have been silently supporting the BBR, it is destined to be a brilliant day gas

There is interest and it is growing. I bet quite a few have heard about the whitepaper/audit coming which should get this resounding ahead in the near future. XMR's so called network effect is transient. BBR's price has been deliberately suppressed. I watched polo trolls bragging about dumping BBR at these prices to appease their fellow trolls and masters  

XMR's propaganda against BBR has really hurt this coin undeservingly. It is almost like the camp wants to ensure that this coin gets obliterated while they can surely tolerate scam coins which are based on the Bitcoin protocol, thrive and have valuation even more than XMR or approaching XMR. dga's post was a real eye opener.

How many have ever questioned core team member NoodleDoodle selling the most amount of coins in the OTC thread since launch of BitMonero? His optimized miners never made it to github until several days later and yet the mindless Risto army slanders zoidberg.  

Shame on some of the "core team" and extended team members of XMR who have been spreading this vitriol/nonsense nonstop on the forums, reddit and other websites. Others just took the cue from them.

Those who are collecting BBRs are going to be extremely happy in the not so distant future. Frankly Monero was an awesome coin for me. It just got polluted due to bad apples who didn't know how to handle the most amazing gift since bitcoin. If it were a corporation, there would be a couple of poison pills who would have been cut off long time ago.

It is upto BBR really to innovate and lead. Rest assured the word is spreading and it will keep spreading.

I'm wondering the same thing - I'm really surprised by what's happened to the price of BBR and the price ratio against XMR.

to be fair, it's probably better that he sells them as they come. it's a constant damper on the price but we'd have no future at all if he decided to just hold whatever huge amount of coins he mined!

network effect, XMR was first to get established, also rptiela BTC whale seems to have taken a personal interest in XMR

BBR is superior tech, but until XMR blockchain starts bloating to where it is an issue that cant be ignored, BBR could be in second place.

I view it as similar to when XCP came out and was trading at a big discount to MSC. They had better tech, but MSC was more established at least as far as how long they were out. It was just a matter of time before it flipped

James

Didn't meant you, that is why edited the post. Darkota and few other fanboys were irritatingly loud about this