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After a careful review of the various allegations, I'm beginning to think that those raising those accusation might have found a way to exploit the casino thereby violating their TOS. This is because those accusations are usually by new people in this forum with no reputation or anything worthy of attention. Why will the allegations be coming from random people always and not active users of this forum who are known as gamblers and even heavy players?


It’s not only Bitcointalk users that make use of casinos that have Ann threads here - there are thousands of people out there that haven’t even heard of Bitcointalk in their life and still make use of this casino - if such people encounter an issue and start searching for how to resolve it or how to get a proper response from them that’s when they turn to Bitcointalk.

I believe the best thing to do right now is to wait for the casino support to come and check if they actually did something wrong or if it was a mistake, let’s wait for an official response from bcgame support.
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But for avoidance of doubt, I think it is appropriate for casino to always highlights gambler's offenses for them and letting them know when and what they offenses are.
After a careful review of the various allegations, I'm beginning to think that those raising those accusation might have found a way to exploit the casino thereby violating their TOS. This is because those accusations are usually by new people in this forum with no reputation or anything worthy of attention. Why will the allegations be coming from random people always and not active users of this forum who are known as gamblers and even heavy players?

If my suspicion is correct, you don't expect the casino to detail it here else the bad actors will find a way to cover it up and make their activities genuine. It is not good to believe every allegation brought here especially by random people. Casinos that have genuine problems are easy to identify and you will see complaints from regular users of this forum and not some random guys.
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It is now over 1 week and they have not replied. I never received a email and I never received a reply to my messages.

chat support is useless and keep repeating wait 24 hours.

@bcgamescammers came and started an accusation, writes about an incompetent chat support and then?

His problem was probably solved and he was able to pay out his winnings. Some feedback here in the thread for all involved would have been good if everything worked out now!
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Some forum new members are not familiar with scam accusation format and don't attach enough information on the accusation. Lack of information means it is harder to check and judge that between two sides, the platform and user, who took wrong actions.
If a forum member needs to achieve a fair investigation of his incident, then he should be directly interested in giving the most complete information about his claim for consideration. This is absolutely logical and those who need to resolve the issue will sooner or later realize it themselves, if initially there was no such understanding.

... well, it's the starting point, if they "screw you over" the first thing is to look for the regular channels, since whining and/or the story that this casino is a scam, it only hinders, so, just add your claim in the right way... `speech'  (story) + evidence.

Brief reminder, it is always useful for me to remember it.
The TOC of this casino and any other will always have a grey area. Consequently, there are only Casinos with reputation, and a management of solutions to the inconveniences that makes them stand out.
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Some forum new members are not familiar with scam accusation format and don't attach enough information on the accusation. Lack of information means it is harder to check and judge that between two sides, the platform and user, who took wrong actions.
If a forum member needs to achieve a fair investigation of his incident, then he should be directly interested in giving the most complete information about his claim for consideration. This is absolutely logical and those who need to resolve the issue will sooner or later realize it themselves, if initially there was no such understanding.
It is not every  information that should be shared to the public especially for a case that you are not convinced that casino want to scam you. For the case in question, it is possible the casino is following their procedure in handling the issue and the person involved has not come to the conclusion that he has been scammed so it is still an open case that requires keeping some information out of the public domain. It could actually get the point that he has to released those information, depending on the response he receive from the team.
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Some forum new members are not familiar with scam accusation format and don't attach enough information on the accusation. Lack of information means it is harder to check and judge that between two sides, the platform and user, who took wrong actions.
If a forum member needs to achieve a fair investigation of his incident, then he should be directly interested in giving the most complete information about his claim for consideration. This is absolutely logical and those who need to resolve the issue will sooner or later realize it themselves, if initially there was no such understanding.
legendary
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To be honest, I did not quite understand what problem you had to face. Were your funds frozen for some unknown reason? Or did you lose funds while playing games? Can you tell in more detail what exactly happened, because so far your post sounds rather vague and general, and I don't understand what kind of unpleasant situation happened to you.

Check his post history, with just 5 posts it's not hard to find the post where he described his problem. But except for his words, there's nothing else, and if he believes that he has a strong case he should create a post in the scam accusations section... He needs just a few clicks to find the section and proper scam accusation format.

I partially agree with him, many crypto casinos have such ToS that they can ban who they want and when they want, without any serious reasons why they do it. This is the second similar case with BC.Game (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bc-game-account-is-locked-5503878), and there is a logic behind MFreM words:

So even if I was ToS compliant, they can close my account based on just suspecting I breached it. This is something I cannot argue with, it is in the ToS after all. (Side note: in my opinion, this clause, along with point 2.1.13, is essentially a ban-anyone wildcard, as "prohibited techniques" are not properly defined, nor is what they mean by "reasonable ground to suspect".)

This can happen to anyone, and if it happens what we can really do about it? They can say we used prohibited techniques, we will ask them to explain it, and their answer will simply be "We can't reveal that it's casino policy"!
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Before I became a 'newbie', I was a long-time lurker, in read-only mode, browsing this forum to find new casinos and check them out. The very reason I registered was to post in this very topic, as I had no other way to resolve my issue but to go public somewhere. As I mentioned before, the support team essentially ignores me, and there is no regulatory body for offshore casinos to turn to.

This is the thing I hate most about offshore casinos: they can do absolutely anything, and there is no way to hold them accountable. Their ToS states that they are not liable for anything, they reserve the right to ban anyone, confiscate funds, and do whatever they want. The only reason they don't just run off with everyone's money is that they make more money by not doing so. They are a business, after all. However, if they were to run off, they would face absolutely no consequences. In such a poorly regulated environment, adhering to the ToS is more of a goodwill gesture than a rule. Unfortunately, no respectable gambling authority allows crypto payments or gives licenses to crypto casinos yet, so it's either fiat or risking this.

I have no interest in your banner campaign because, you know, I have a far bigger issue right now. I might be too naive, but it never even crossed my mind that I could be viewed as a malicious actor throwing fake accusations, outright lies, or attacking someone's favorite, perfect casino just so they lose some forum promotion campaign. In my opinion, this is an insanely paranoid way of thinking, and I really hope this is not the norm.

You are right that I did not provide proof and the lack of it hurts my credibility. Though I am not sure what would suffice as proof. Perhaps I could anonymize and show my emails with the support. In hindsight, I should have already included them. I will make sure to get around to it soon. Until then, please lets imagine a world in which what I wrote previously is true. In that purely hypothetical scenario, what would you do in my place?

To be honest, I did not quite understand what problem you had to face. Were your funds frozen for some unknown reason? Or did you lose funds while playing games? Can you tell in more detail what exactly happened, because so far your post sounds rather vague and general, and I don't understand what kind of unpleasant situation happened to you.
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You are right that I did not provide proof and the lack of it hurts my credibility. Though I am not sure what would suffice as proof. Perhaps I could anonymize and show my emails with the support. In hindsight, I should have already included them. I will make sure to get around to it soon. Until then, please lets imagine a world in which what I wrote previously is true. In that purely hypothetical scenario, what would you do in my place?
You don't really need to put in so much effort to try and convince people about your situation since some people like me believe you having experienced a somewhat similar situation with this site recently.

Don't waste your breath on the narrow minded fools who are focusing on their own benefits from this site. BC.Game has a dubious history and is nowhere near as reliable as sites like Stake, Sportsbet.io etc.
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You create a scam accusation thread on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 if you want your case to be analyzed properly. The ANN thread is currently being use for discussion about the casino since the reps is not active on communicating with user here.
And follow this guide to create a scam accusation thread with enough necessary information.

Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)

Some forum new members are not familiar with scam accusation format and don't attach enough information on the accusation. Lack of information means it is harder to check and judge that between two sides, the platform and user, who took wrong actions.

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You are right that I did not provide proof and the lack of it hurts my credibility. Though I am not sure what would suffice as proof. Perhaps I could anonymize and show my emails with the support. In hindsight, I should have already included them. I will make sure to get around to it soon. Until then, please lets imagine a world in which what I wrote previously is true. In that purely hypothetical scenario, what would you do in my place?

You create a scam accusation thread on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 if you want your case to be analyzed properly. The ANN thread is currently being use for discussion about the casino since the reps is not active on communicating with user here.

You can submit screenshots of your balance and the whole conversation with the support as proof to your case. Casino usually doesn’t disclose the specific violations especially if it’s related to using strategy to have an advantage against the casino.
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Before I became a 'newbie', I was a long-time lurker, in read-only mode, browsing this forum to find new casinos and check them out. The very reason I registered was to post in this very topic, as I had no other way to resolve my issue but to go public somewhere. As I mentioned before, the support team essentially ignores me, and there is no regulatory body for offshore casinos to turn to.

This is the thing I hate most about offshore casinos: they can do absolutely anything, and there is no way to hold them accountable. Their ToS states that they are not liable for anything, they reserve the right to ban anyone, confiscate funds, and do whatever they want. The only reason they don't just run off with everyone's money is that they make more money by not doing so. They are a business, after all. However, if they were to run off, they would face absolutely no consequences. In such a poorly regulated environment, adhering to the ToS is more of a goodwill gesture than a rule. Unfortunately, no respectable gambling authority allows crypto payments or gives licenses to crypto casinos yet, so it's either fiat or risking this.

I have no interest in your banner campaign because, you know, I have a far bigger issue right now. I might be too naive, but it never even crossed my mind that I could be viewed as a malicious actor throwing fake accusations, outright lies, or attacking someone's favorite, perfect casino just so they lose some forum promotion campaign. In my opinion, this is an insanely paranoid way of thinking, and I really hope this is not the norm.

You are right that I did not provide proof and the lack of it hurts my credibility. Though I am not sure what would suffice as proof. Perhaps I could anonymize and show my emails with the support. In hindsight, I should have already included them. I will make sure to get around to it soon. Until then, please lets imagine a world in which what I wrote previously is true. In that purely hypothetical scenario, what would you do in my place?
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Didn't you see a lot of other gambling signature campaign members suddenly coming out in support and some for no reason without any proof?
Without proof, and if it pops out from newbies, it is less likely a valid accusation. I am not biased with newbies but they must include enough proofs in their accusations. If not, I assume their accusations are invalid before they are able to add more evidences.

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I somehow do not understand that if a user tries to manipulate the casino system with various software tools how much integrity they have in themselves to come up with those allegations.
They probably thought that they won't lose anything and maybe they actually succeed with their attempts to abuse casino, exploit holes in games, won big, withdrawn one or few times before the casino detected potential serious things and started to investigate more carefully.

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The casino will never give the reason and neither will the person who was banned as those secrets will only give more of such individuals to exploit the weak areas of the casino.
They have Terms of Service that surely are intolerant to any cheating at their business and have full rights to take action against these fraudulent activities. Therefore, if it's an abused case, the user can give up to avoid wasting time for complaining after successful a few times and got some money out of the platform.
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But for avoidance of doubt, I think it is appropriate for casino to always highlights gambler's offenses for them and letting them know when and what they offenses are.

Yes, that judgment is sound. Just maybe there may not be enough staff to communicate something to every gambler personally. In any case, some offenses can be monitored in an automated mode. And additionally send notifications if such misbehaviors are identified.
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I missed that but then since it a violation ban why is the ops creating this thread, because if the BC.games team already responded to him, that he violated their rule, it make no more sense coming out to create a fud around the whole issue, although he may think since the support did not point out the rules he broke to him, that makes him thinks that the casino is playing a trick to conceal his money in the account.


But for avoidance of doubt, I think it is appropriate for casino to always highlights gambler's offenses for them and letting them know when and what they offenses are.

Didn't you see a lot of other gambling signature campaign members suddenly coming out in support and some for no reason without any proof? This is how a defaming is done of a casino that is trying to establish itself in a business that it very competitive. I somehow do not understand that if a user tries to manipulate the casino system with various software tools how much integrity they have in themselves to come up with those allegations. The casino will never give the reason and neither will the person who was banned as those secrets will only give more of such individuals to exploit the weak areas of the casino.
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He mentioned that the account was banned for violating BC.game rules, so for sure the support are not going to give this dude any more listening ears since it clear that he is under purnishment, I think he need to move on and try some other casinos.


Rules are rules, and once violated, no going back regardless of how much of your money that is trap in that account, is your fault so just face it, let not pretend to be victimised when we indeed committed a crime against a platform.

I missed that but then since it a violation ban why is the ops creating this thread, because if the BC.games team already responded to him, that he violated their rule, it make no more sense coming out to create a fud around the whole issue, although he may think since the support did not point out the rules he broke to him, that makes him thinks that the casino is playing a trick to conceal his money in the account.


But for avoidance of doubt, I think it is appropriate for casino to always highlights gambler's offenses for them and letting them know when and what they offenses are.
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Brother, can you submit all your proofs to support your claims and accusations? You being in a loss of $20 is making an accusation which you should understand that it is a small amount. Having said that do not woof! if you do not show proof that you got jacked, I think you are not sharing what it is required to support your topic.
Firstly, I am not your brother dumdum. Secondly, I didn't provide any proof because it's a waste of time and effort(Small Amount) for me and anyone with a half-decent brain would most probably do the same.

You really need to try a lot harder if you wish to support the site that you are advertising more effectively within this forum. Think hard!

Okay will not call you brother and I do not want to start a spat here. What I said to you is justified as you are on a forum known for anonymity it is hard to trust a claim from someone who does not have any trust rating. Either you provide proof of what has happened to you or stop creating fake allegations that you have been doing on the main thread and the other thread. Without proof, you are spamming threads, which I do not think is required if you are least bothered by the amount you lost. I personally, want to know why a casino like BC would be indulging in robbing you for a small amount.
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Hello. I've encountered an issue on BC.GAME. My account was blocked supposedly for some violation. I don't know what to do. I wrote to them via email, and their response is shown in the screenshot below.

https://img001.prntscr.com/file/img001/u2oNN4pwTP-W6cdmVKpn-Q.png
I've seen your thread on this issue and already commented there, but to add a few things I forgot to mention on that my comment, I will have to say that there are different ways or types of violation rather, and bc.game should have told you exactly what you violated, and as much as I've trusted this casino after they were able to redeem their reputation from some issues they had with some users previously, I would have to say that it's quite sketchy for them not to have told you exactly what you did that made them block your account.

And again, what I have to say is, get them to tell you exactly what you did, but if they can't, then open a scam accusation against them, use the scam accusation board for this, specially if you have a balance on the account that you don't want to lose.
Some of those support agents won't tell you what the level and type of violations that the gambler have committed and in most cases that results into this kind of public outcry is based on the fact that the gambler is left in the dark to figure out what they offense are to lead to they accounts being blocked since the support won't mentioned that only to tell that you violated the rules, but it will be of significant help if the casinos agents can at least let the gambler know what they offense are by highlighting those rules that they have violated in other to save us that stress of having to discuss this kind of topics in the future.
BC.game is a big casino and should have known better because any small mistake can lead to fuds about the casino and that could affect their reputations in some ways, between I think the ops should drop a comment and complain directly to the forum representative of BC game to see what their own reaction will be and come back to update us here to know further what going on with this case.
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Does the amount have to be large before they request KYC verification to be completed?

Have you forgotten the ToS you agreed to?

You should verify your account and if it’s not approved after the submission, then you can call them names.
Jeez. Do you even realise what you are saying? I guess you are one of those people who is perfectly fine with submitting KYC for such small amounts, but many gamblers including me don't bother with such crap.

I have submitted KYC in several sites over time where the amounts involved were big which was a reasonable deal. Think!

There’s no need to be mad at him. He is just stating the reality stated on ToS but I perfectly agree with you when it comes to KYC. I will not bother to submit KYC if the amount involved is just damn low since I only play small amount on casino that I’m just testing while I done KYC on my main casino that I play huge bankroll.

It’s really odd that you are required to do KYC with 20$. Unless you done some shady activity that might implicate violations then this KYC will be justified.
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Brother, can you submit all your proofs to support your claims and accusations? You being in a loss of $20 is making an accusation which you should understand that it is a small amount. Having said that do not woof! if you do not show proof that you got jacked, I think you are not sharing what it is required to support your topic.
Firstly, I am not your brother dumdum. Secondly, I didn't provide any proof because it's a waste of time and effort(Small Amount) for me and anyone with a half-decent brain would most probably do the same.

You really need to try a lot harder if you wish to support the site that you are advertising more effectively within this forum. Think hard!
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