Topic: [BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012 - page 304. (Read 1070325 times)

Massive giveaway = massive adoption. I wouldn't be surprised to learn of measures preventing the mining teams from keeping any for themselves to dump.

Dont take that for granted, things can change anytime.

The ultimate goal of cryptonote team members is massive adoption of their technology. I dont see a massive adoption of a premine coin such as Bytecoin happen anytime soon. TBH, the market has already decided that MRO is cryptonote coin that matters for now. It is also the most technologically relevant today as most of its update comes from MRO.

If the goal is to take down banks, yes.

then by extension you should support the goal of whoever made that code right?

I support whoever made this code. Thats all.

Actually, that brings up a good point that I didn't think about.

There's people here who actively support Bytecoin .. what do any of you think or make of cryptonote?

Good guys/bad guys .. ?

I mean there was a disagreement between the two communities .. as a supporter of one do you still have interest in the other?

Like if you feel that you support Bytecoin .. do you feel animosity toward CryptoNote (either direct or indirect)?

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What I mean is that before I posted that people should go to CN, but I didn't consider that people supporting Bytecoin might not like CN at all .. and it would have been offensive when I wasn't trying to be. Sorry if I was.

U are right, maybe they wanted a close economy. This simple fact could create a schism as cryptonote team members have massive adoption as their ultimate goal.

I feel a little differently. I think CN mentions that Bytecoin has its own "long history". This makes me think its not a premine and they don't want the money (currently or ever). I feel like it's still used for something. I don't think that hinges on my or anyone's using it besides that community. This doesn't rule out the 'scam' that it's claimed to be necessarily .. just that there's not enough information other than history repeating itself to justify either one.

But if one were to take the 'all lies' claim .. the current CN website and Bytecoin websites could just be ripoffs of the original source names from the original onion site that said cryptonote instead of bytecoin even though the site layouts were the exact same. That name that was in one of the readmes .. Cybernote i think? What if the blockchain was really forged and there's some alpha project out there called cybernote and that's the real original blockchain?

Who knows? I sure don't. That's why I've been taking the story for mostly what CN/Bytecoin claim, because otherwise there's an endless slurry of questions. I think they've alluded to that being amusing as well in one of their posts on this forum as user cryptonote

Fun to play guesswork though .. just not something that I can ever use to transact with.

I do want to hear more from CN though, could some of you guys go and post on their forum? I've lost my passwords, but I post there a few times w/ a different name .. hoping for discussion. I feel like talking more on that forum will be better for everyone.

What do you guys think happened between Bytecoin and Cryptonote? Why the schism ? According to their forums, they had different views.

My theory : Bytecoin wanted to profit from the external world (hence 80% premine) whereas Cryptonote wanted to create something valuable for the external world (hence open source).

What's yours ?

sorryforthat end this monero joke coin right now. srybigbro

Invetors of the technology? Your coin isnt build on cryptonote alone my friend. Regardless of what cryptonote has done, dont foreshadow the fact that your coin would be nothing without Bytecoin development.

Well played Sir.

Your mom had 80% premine too before you were born.

No offences, but you are funny .

Perhaps that is directed at me and if so I can tell you I have no "bad intentions." I hold a lot of BCN after mining a ridiculous amount when it surfaced here. I don't know the exact market values right now but I might hold more BCN than XMR. Being part of the Monero core team has not given me any special "stash" of Monero (there was no pre-mine, IPO, instamine, or other way I would have gotten free or cheap coins).

If anything, mining BCN was much easier because the difficulty started out implausibly low given the alleged economy that supposedly existed, and also because the difficulty did not take off rapidly the way XMR's did.

I ask questions and challenge implausible claims only because I seek the truth and I don't like seeing potential frauds allowed to continue unchallenged.

If I were simply acting out of self-interest I would probably never say anything negative about BCN and I'd be here pumping it the way other people do. I guess if they're part of the 150 billion coin "earlier adopter" (aka premine, testnet, etc.) group they might hold more than I do though.

The last portion was more geared toward the Monero teams that are always here with bad intentions.

It seems maybe I have misconstrued your general message and I am sorry if it seemed as if I was attacking you personally. I suppose I am after much the same but my life goes on regardless.

I agree with you. I'm not asking Bytecoin devs to defend themselves, none of my questions were targeted at them or their closed community. I've asked them before, and they rightly ignore me .. so I've taken to respecting their privacy. In fact, let me make it clear that I don't think it's a premine. I think it's a closed economy, much like china was until the 1970s or so. I'm trying to make sense of why people, like myself, continue to come to this thread every single day. What is here? Is this a currency, a mystery, or a sad mistake? I think it's a mystery, and am very open to taking every answer that has been given to me at face value. When you say there's nothing to defend, do you mean literally that there's nothing here worthwhile to put into someone's pocket so let them do whatever .. or what? I don't see it as a financial tool, I see it as a priceless mystery -- but that's me and I've been in this thread since a few days after the BCN thread was even made. What is BCN to you?

You think I think only the people in this thread think that? Hell, just because I said it doesn't mean I'm alone in hoping for it I've spent enough time waiting for a mystery message that's never going to pop out of thin air .. it was tough but I moved on. It's why I'm back now, asking the same questions I asked of myself for weeks before giving up.



Bullshit this isn't you vs. me, or Monero vs. Bytecoin when I ask these questions. If you think that then I'll just delete my profile again because you people seem way too obsessed with an ego you've attributed to a profile and people's post-dicks.

It seems more and more every day like nothing can get done right unless people know nothing about each other.

I just dont understand why devs choose such shitty names. Ducknote? Monero? Come on...

Anyway, I'm just happy I bought BCN starting at 4 sats. 

Also, I don't think i got a respose (maybe i missed it)....is IRC #BCN  our channel? or is that something totally different?

I registered a #bytecoinBCN.

After reading last 2 pages I did not find any useful information.. My feeling is that Monero guys are maybe afraid that people will go from Monero to Bytecoin (price increase, difficulty as well). Is not it reason why you are trolling here? ... only teasing.

It’s just silly to augment to the tune of Monero Devs and heavy bag holders that frequent this thread to ask silly questions and say they have gotten no answers. It isn’t that you have received no answers but rather you refuse to acknowledge the answers you have been given. So this vicious cycle with continue; DRK to Monero, Monero to Bytecoin and so on, But why? Why would the creator of something, the true innovation not defend itself? Because quite honestly it has nothing to really defend. They have no needs to gain such that of other coins like Dark and Monero, etc. Price of the coin doesn’t matter, their code is not in question, and the only thing in question is the misuse of words to facilitate your false meaning. Monero chooses to be a dictator of sorts and create this all powerful meaning and put so much faith on being a fair release with (as you guys say) no "premine". There is a Monero presence in every crypotnote coin thread(Ducknote, MTN, QCN). All quite negative.


This is the point where you move from sound question to low blows, a cheap shot at everyone in this thread. I have no need to be part of some secret community, nor do I strive to do so. Let’s stay on track now.


This is more or less a re-hash of your opening remark so I honest don’t feel compelled to reply.

I don’t think that you guys need to really do things like this. I am a supporter of both. I have been with both since they were introduced in this thread, one of the first Monero miners and a heavy holder of XMR and BCN. My intent is not to fame one more than the other, it’s to end this useless banter that is really fading the image that I have of Monero and its team. It all seems desperate and you guys are far better than this. Soon you will be no different than DRK with a string of fanboys at your side.