[BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012 - page 306.

Zer0Sum

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Quote from: smooth on June 10, 2014, 04:42:19 AM

Quote from: heskey on June 09, 2014, 10:03:09 PM

I have no base, other than that someone was 2 years ahead of someone else who manage to create a fork of their work. The monero guys probably didn't even have a clue that anonymity was the shiet until darkcoin showed them, and after that they wanted to make a quick buck and go down in history books as the 'inventors of the modern "new age" anonymous economy' pfft.

100% bullshit straw man argument. The developers of Monero have never claimed nor do they ever claim to have invented the technology.

At least learn some of the history before going off spouting nonsense.

Why are all the Monero shills spamming this thread?
You gonna ban me here, little bitch?

Monero is just a cheap, lazy fork that steals/syncs the BCN code every weekend...
They don't even have a fucking wallet... because they can't steal it from the BCN devs.

Stealing intellectual property is 1000 times worse...
Than quietly mining your own work for a while...
It will be poetic justice if BCN... or a 3rd party takes the CN space.

And gmaxwell has NEVER endorsed Monero...
Though he has praised the BCN team and their CN tech...
And has specifically, publically condemned the Monero group as a bunch of thieves...
The exact discussion is out there... we will have to revisit it on a regular basis.

Blockcoin

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whats with the on arse wallet

babybonobo

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#hardworkpaysoff

While I understand that the name ByteCoin could be confusing for a cryptonoob, I think that most coin names are confusing for a cryptonoob. I like "ByteCoin" because it feels like a beefed up bitcoin--implying extra features. IMO it's perfect for its use.

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Quote from: knightcoin on June 10, 2014, 08:45:35 AM

Quote from: drawingthesun on June 10, 2014, 08:34:09 AM

Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

This is incorrect.

More and more normal people are hearing about Bitcoin but have little knowledge of any alternative coins and certainly have no idea about the generation 2 coins.

I have yet to meet someone who has heard of Dogecoin.

I did ... Well Minecraft community, nascar, olimpics etc.. Doge still have a nice relationship with media ... I have a rudimentary metrics on socialmedia
.. Got some google alert bots with all tops cryptocoins ... Bitcoin is on top followed by doge litecoin ripple and now darkcoin making some statistical relevance ... In marketing there are some rules like people need to hear about a product at least 7 times before start looking for further information about it ...

I think you're getting the American zeitgeist mixed up with the Global zeitgeist.

knightcoin

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Stand on the shoulders of giants

Quote from: drawingthesun on June 10, 2014, 08:34:09 AM

Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

This is incorrect.

More and more normal people are hearing about Bitcoin but have little knowledge of any alternative coins and certainly have no idea about the generation 2 coins.

I have yet to meet someone who has heard of Dogecoin.

I did ... Well Minecraft community, nascar, olimpics etc.. Doge still have a nice relationship with media ... I have a rudimentary metrics on socialmedia
.. Got some google alert bots with all tops cryptocoins ... Bitcoin is on top followed by doge litecoin ripple and now darkcoin making some statistical relevance ... In marketing there are some rules like people need to hear about a product at least 7 times before start looking for further information about it ...

drawingthesun

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

This is incorrect.

More and more normal people are hearing about Bitcoin but have little knowledge of any alternative coins and certainly have no idea about the generation 2 coins.

I have yet to meet someone who has heard of Dogecoin.

knightcoin

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Stand on the shoulders of giants

I think we as cryptonote supporters should start a brainstorming / inception marketing plain ...

Keyboard-Mash

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 07:08:41 AM

Quote from: smooth on June 10, 2014, 06:45:54 AM

Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

Strongest brand? I would probably agree.

But "best" branding? Maybe not. When people look at it and think it is a joke, that is not necessarily the image you want.

Quote from: David1978 on June 10, 2014, 06:55:28 AM

This is controversial. I personally thought it was some kind of a joke.

Inspite of this it went insanely viral and even outshined mother bitcoin.
If we're now talking about it, who has the best branding in cryptoworld?

That community was bred by 4chan. It was the same time they were spamming stablecoin threads on /pol/. A board war developed and created a nice viral effect for dogecoin to market to people who were already half into bitcoin. Won't be terribly easy to tap that resource again.

Personally, I believe artos' profile was borrowed through some vulnerability like heartbleed or something and the entire thing was staged but who's to know? Cheesy

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 07:08:41 AM

Inspite of this it went insanely viral and even outshined mother bitcoin.
If we're now talking about it, who has the best branding in cryptoworld?

What is this? Are you some kind of doge coin admirer?

smooth

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 07:08:41 AM

Quote from: smooth on June 10, 2014, 06:45:54 AM

Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

Strongest brand? I would probably agree.

But "best" branding? Maybe not. When people look at it and think it is a joke, that is not necessarily the image you want.

Quote from: David1978 on June 10, 2014, 06:55:28 AM

This is controversial. I personally thought it was some kind of a joke.

Inspite of this it went insanely viral and even outshined mother bitcoin.
If we're now talking about it, who has the best branding in cryptoworld?

I dunno people talk about all kinds of epic failures. Also, going viral doesn't even require branding.

AtomicDoge

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Quote from: smooth on June 10, 2014, 06:45:54 AM

Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

Strongest brand? I would probably agree.

But "best" branding? Maybe not. When people look at it and think it is a joke, that is not necessarily the image you want.

Quote from: David1978 on June 10, 2014, 06:55:28 AM

This is controversial. I personally thought it was some kind of a joke.

Inspite of this it went insanely viral and even outshined mother bitcoin.
If we're now talking about it, who has the best branding in cryptoworld?

Keyboard-Mash

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Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:50:24 AM

People ask questions like "are bitcoin and bytecoin the same thing?" and so on...
I've been on reddit. I've seen a lot. Shocked

Hm, reddit seems to be the problem here.

Maybe you can take it to a different forum based community and see what they think? I can think of quite a few that would be thrilled with things like Bytecoin.

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

This is controversial. I personally thought it was some kind of a joke.

Keyboard-Mash

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Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 05:25:45 AM

What I'm really interested in is .. have people in this thread been led to believe that they can or will ever become part of the closed community that Bytecoin is used by? I figured them for Cypherpunks .. or as they're saying nowaways, "Crypto-enthusiasts" instead of the usual "crypto-activists".

I mean they have the Cyphernomicon in their blockchain so this is hardly a stretch .. are any of you Cypherpunks? Anyone on the mailing list? Don't get me wrong that's cool as hell .. but my background isn't programming Sad

Cypherpunks write code .. so I left their money well enough alone after I figured whose it was Wink

What about that picture for anon web hosting .. don't they advertize like .1 BTC = .001 BCN? Wouldn't that make the marketcap like $1,022,985,600,000 .. a trillion dollars! That's insane! I wonder what kind of mansions they all live in Cheesy

Do you guys think that's what they trade it for on their websites?

I thought of another ... do you think these people have the ability to even sign a pgp message with cicada 3301 signature? It would be impossible to do so without the password. Even then, would they dare to sign it? I see no tendency for worshiping prime numbers here .. but maybe that's not needed for this?

Maybe they're just largely in support of what they do? Cicada 3301 has a solid history of not using browsers to access their websites and providing their pgp key first thing as they dont mess around. I think their support is admirable, maybe they're on the waiting list to get into "the big leagues" like cicada 3301?

Does anyone think making a currency like this would qualify them?

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Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 06:41:46 AM

Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:34:20 AM

Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 06:31:31 AM

Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:29:52 AM

This actually might be true...Bytecoin is really not the best brand on the market and people constantly confuse it with bitcoin.

Don't rename it! We all know what happens when a community wants to change a name

Cmon i didnt mean it should be renamed! Shocked

Name is ok, just causes some confusion among those who are new to the cryptoworld.

Hm, what do you think is the best way to get around that? It's a really cool name .. but what kind of confusion do you think it will cause? I didn't even hear of bytecoin until I saw this one .. no confusion for me!

People ask questions like "are bitcoin and bytecoin the same thing?" and so on...

I've been on reddit. I've seen a lot. Shocked

smooth

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Quote from: AtomicDoge on June 10, 2014, 06:41:21 AM

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

Strongest brand? I would probably agree.

But "best" branding? Maybe not. When people look at it and think it is a joke, that is not necessarily the image you want.

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Quote from: Cockeyed on June 07, 2014, 07:52:29 AM

How much do you get out with minergate miner? with Intel 2020m I get about 20H/s, with Intel T7400 (2,33GH) I get about 12 H/S, with T9600 (2,8GH) I get out about 15 H/s. I would be interested how much you get out on an AMD FX6300...

AMD FX6100: 170H/S

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Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:34:20 AM

Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 06:31:31 AM

Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:29:52 AM

This actually might be true...Bytecoin is really not the best brand on the market and people constantly confuse it with bitcoin.

Don't rename it! We all know what happens when a community wants to change a name

Cmon i didnt mean it should be renamed! Shocked

Name is ok, just causes some confusion among those who are new to the cryptoworld.

Hm, what do you think is the best way to get around that? It's a really cool name .. but what kind of confusion do you think it will cause? I didn't even hear of bytecoin until I saw this one .. no confusion for me!

AtomicDoge

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Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:34:20 AM

Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 06:31:31 AM

Quote from: werrindor on June 10, 2014, 06:29:52 AM

This actually might be true...Bytecoin is really not the best brand on the market and people constantly confuse it with bitcoin.

Don't rename it! We all know what happens when a community wants to change a name

Cmon i didnt mean it should be renamed! Shocked

Name is ok, just causes some confusion among those who are new to the cryptoworld.

Among all possible cryptocurrencies Dogecoin had the best branding so far.

But it didnt help it though.

smooth

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Quote from: Keyboard-Mash on June 10, 2014, 06:30:12 AM

Yeah, that's kinda wierd .. I didn't even make the connection before that if the inventors of the technology approve .. then why don't all of us? It's brutal to suffer actual malice because someone "made a fork" especially when it's totally supported.

Maybe someone should ask them on their website what their views on forks are .. rather than trying to use it as some kind of derogatory term?

Don't need to ask because they've already stated their position. In fact they've offered to help!

"We will help you establish your own CN-based cryptocurrency"

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6

In fact they suggest forking as a development strategy

"For the reference code consider Bytecoin (BCN) source code"

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6#p8

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