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Quote from: imstillthebest on December 03, 2019, 08:59:55 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 03, 2019, 05:11:27 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 01, 2019, 12:16:55 PM

Quote from: dioanna on December 01, 2019, 09:13:38 AM

its almost 4 years now since I came across Bitcoin, I have done faucets,hyips, mining, lending investment, join ICOs, do bounties and trade up until now. But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

IF you had even invested later in the downfall you would have made Money as btc has crossed 10k again and it had fallen till 3200$ around . Those who believe in it would have definitely invested and hosted it and have become rich now .

This year it gives good return to investors if they sell at the right timing, not only $10K but $13 as that was the high this year so far.
For now, BTC is just trading at $7300 but its possible to rise to $10K again, actually what we just need is to believe and just wait for the right timing.
its easy to find a good opportunity to buy and sell if you have the patience and trust on bitcoin.

did btc ever reached 13k usd this year ? sorry but i forgot it . it maybe long enough , but what i only see is the price usually stays at 10k usd and below . timing like what you said is still a key to earn even on these low tides

I'm not sure about it, but as far as i know the highest it went this year is about $9000. Bitcoin behaves so silent this year at stays the price at a very short range, just recently it decreased so bad I did not able to buy until it recovers. That could've be the timing I need to basically profit from it. He is right though, bitcoin can still reach $10000 this year or early next year.

Quote from: imstillthebest on December 03, 2019, 08:59:55 AM

btc is lowered at 7k usd but i think its nearly not possible for it to climb 10k usd again based on its movement but i think it can recover until 8 to 8.5 usd . i heard people speculate nicely about the price of btc by next year , that would be our hope

Now it pumps again 2%, not bad as it recently downed sitting at $7300 still possible to run higher this year with less than a month. Speculation on bitcoin's price for next year is positive but don't let this fool you, we have seen many speculation that didn't came true.

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Quote from: veleten on December 01, 2019, 09:22:24 AM

a very important point , we all wait and secretly hope that bitcoin's price is going through the roof
while sitting on our asses or reading the news , lazily at best
adoption doesn't .. .adopt itself

, you have to work , each and every one of us every day , promotng bitcoin , informing about it and the benefits of the cryptocurrencies our friends and relatives
it goes a long way , even if it falls on deaf ears in 90% of the cases , that 10% of people will be eventually doing the same , increasing the awareness
the more people know about bitcoin , not from this 2 minute tv show , picturing crypto as something illegal or volatile etc. the more of them would want to read about it and buy it
hence increasing the price, help yourselves and others - tell about bitcoin to your relatives and neighbors, educate them and the results will come

People have a misconception about the price of the bitcoin, they think that if the market is dying if the price of the bitcoin is going down. They do now know the market cycle, they always thought that the market will always bullish. It is not like that they should know about it for them to not worry about the price of the bitcoin.

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Quote from: Questat on December 03, 2019, 05:11:27 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 01, 2019, 12:16:55 PM

Quote from: dioanna on December 01, 2019, 09:13:38 AM

its almost 4 years now since I came across Bitcoin, I have done faucets,hyips, mining, lending investment, join ICOs, do bounties and trade up until now. But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

IF you had even invested later in the downfall you would have made Money as btc has crossed 10k again and it had fallen till 3200$ around . Those who believe in it would have definitely invested and hosted it and have become rich now .

This year it gives good return to investors if they sell at the right timing, not only $10K but $13 as that was the high this year so far.
For now, BTC is just trading at $7300 but its possible to rise to $10K again, actually what we just need is to believe and just wait for the right timing.
its easy to find a good opportunity to buy and sell if you have the patience and trust on bitcoin.

did btc ever reached 13k usd this year ? sorry but i forgot it . it maybe long enough , but what i only see is the price usually stays at 10k usd and below . timing like what you said is still a key to earn even on these low tide's .

btc is lowered at 7k usd but i think its nearly not possible for it to climb 10k usd again based on its movement but i think it can recover until 8 to 8.5 usd . i heard people speculate nicely about the price of btc by next year , that would be our hope

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Quote from: veleten on December 01, 2019, 09:22:24 AM

a very important point , we all wait and secretly hope that bitcoin's price is going through the roof
while sitting on our asses or reading the news , lazily at best
adoption doesn't .. .adopt itself

, you have to work , each and every one of us every day , promotng bitcoin , informing about it and the benefits of the cryptocurrencies our friends and relatives
it goes a long way , even if it falls on deaf ears in 90% of the cases , that 10% of people will be eventually doing the same , increasing the awareness
the more people know about bitcoin , not from this 2 minute tv show , picturing crypto as something illegal or volatile etc. the more of them would want to read about it and buy it
hence increasing the price, help yourselves and others - tell about bitcoin to your relatives and neighbors, educate them and the results will come

That is so true. This is actually one of the common problems among common people that they do not try to make their desires reality on their own but depend on others. Every single investor can bring a change. Even all of them convince one other person, the total number of holders will get doubled. Bitcoin will be making its way to every single person of the world one day, but if this happens earlier, we will make progress earlier too.

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Quote from: onrise on December 01, 2019, 12:16:55 PM

Quote from: dioanna on December 01, 2019, 09:13:38 AM

its almost 4 years now since I came across Bitcoin, I have done faucets,hyips, mining, lending investment, join ICOs, do bounties and trade up until now. But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

IF you had even invested later in the downfall you would have made Money as btc has crossed 10k again and it had fallen till 3200$ around . Those who believe in it would have definitely invested and hosted it and have become rich now .

This year it gives good return to investors if they sell at the right timing, not only $10K but $13 as that was the high this year so far.
For now, BTC is just trading at $7300 but its possible to rise to $10K again, actually what we just need is to believe and just wait for the right timing.
its easy to find a good opportunity to buy and sell if you have the patience and trust on bitcoin.

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Quote from: doomloop on December 01, 2019, 02:31:52 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 26, 2019, 11:56:57 AM

As there are many ways to the top. Personally, I don't mind if cryptocurrencies (say, Bitcoin and a few other major cryptos) turn into a strong and robust store of value (competing stores of value). Then people will keep bitcoins and spend fiat. If you ask me, it is a pretty good "compromise". Fiat currencies are going to lose their value like they have always been doing (maybe a little faster due to people moving their wealth from fiat savings into crypto) while Bitcoin will be rising and gaining more power, momentum and impact as a solid digital store of value. Really, what's wrong with that as long as you are able to spend your bitcoins in the "old way" if you choose so?

If we have a way to become rich and stabilize our financial status, why wont we? Bitcoin has opened new ways to improve economy at individual level. Fiat has mostly brought problems like inflation and hyper inflation due to being controlled by governments. On the other hand, bitcoin not only returns sufficient profits with time but also give freedom of control over one’s asset

That's the most important thing

Well, that's what I personally think (as they say, opinions may vary). From an economic perspective, the difference between regular currencies and cryptocurrencies as exemplified by Bitcoin is not really that big. Both fiat and Bitcoin are not hard currencies, i.e. they don't have any intrinsic value (other than transactional utility which is common to any form of money). In essence, they are simply accounting systems and frames of reference for making "value judgments"

And here comes the key difference between them which lies beyond the pure economic domain. And that is control over the money. The government can easily destroy your wealth (if you are foolish enough to keep your savings in fiat) which essentially means they are in control of it. Destroying Bitcoin is also technically possible but that goes a long way from simply starting the proverbial printing press and devaluing the national currency overnight

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Quote from: strunberg on November 30, 2019, 08:24:19 AM

Quote from: huige007 on November 28, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

knowledge that will make us understand how to survive in our life. Is difficult to survive our self if we have no knowledge at all , meanwhile this world very cruel. We could be the victim from bad people or atleast we just be useless man without any knowledge. Today education give huge influence to our success story. By knowledge we will able to identify opportunity to earn money.

Knowledge is the standard on which wise are differentiated from fools. The more amount and diversity of knowledge someone holds, the easier his life becomes. People who can be fooled will always be fooled by others and this is more like human nature of evils than cruelty of this world. It has become mandatory to have computer literacy at present age because without it, we cant think about surviving.

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Quote from: deisik on November 26, 2019, 11:56:57 AM

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Quote from: deisik on November 25, 2019, 02:32:46 PM

As they say (well, actually that is what I say), not all fiats are born equal, and if the US dollar inflation is in fact quite negligible (while we shouldn't compare it on its own apart from the changes in wage rates within the same period as the latter are rising too), this is not the case with almost any other fiat currency out there (except for a few top currencies like Euro and Swiss frank). So the government, or rather governments, are not going to do anything about it for the simple reason they are the cause of price inflation and, most importantly, they are the ones profiting from it

It's illusion to expect that cryptocurrencies will replace fiat currencies in any way. Yes, some fiat currencies suffer from inflation but this has happened many times before and not all fiat currencies are the same and in same position. So expecting from governments to react isn't realistic.
Don't forget that very small number of people in the world is using cryptocurrencies and that is not going to change in some dramatic way any time soon and that is big issue in terms of biger success of cryptocurrencies on a global level

It is definitely not the only way to success

As there are many ways to the top. Personally, I don't mind if cryptocurrencies (say, Bitcoin and a few other major cryptos) turn into a strong and robust store of value (competing stores of value). Then people will keep bitcoins and spend fiat. If you ask me, it is a pretty good "compromise". Fiat currencies are going to lose their value like they have always been doing (maybe a little faster due to people moving their wealth from fiat savings into crypto) while Bitcoin will be rising and gaining more power, momentum and impact as a solid digital store of value. Really, what's wrong with that as long as you are able to spend your bitcoins in the "old way" if you choose so?

If we have a way to become rich and stabilize our financial status, why wont we? Bitcoin has opened new ways to improve economy at individual level. Fiat has mostly brought problems like inflation and hyper inflation due to being controlled by governments. On the other hand, bitcoin not only returns sufficient profits with time but also give freedom of control over one’s asset.

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Quote from: dioanna on December 01, 2019, 09:13:38 AM

its almost 4 years now since I came across Bitcoin, I have done faucets,hyips, mining, lending investment, join ICOs, do bounties and trade up until now. But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

IF you had even invested later in the downfall you would have made Money as btc has crossed 10k again and it had fallen till 3200$ around . Those who believe in it would have definitely invested and hosted it and have become rich now .

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Quote from: dioanna on December 01, 2019, 09:13:38 AM

But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

You're not alone. It's really frustrating at times whenever I remember that--I could've done more, sort of regret. Well, no one really predicted it to be that way. But then again, if I understand it really, maybe I should've focused more on doing it and not take it lightly.

Quote from: veleten on December 01, 2019, 09:22:24 AM

adoption doesn't .. .adopt itself

, you have to work , each and every one of us every day , promotng bitcoin ,

Exactly! People still believe that HODL is the right way to go. But it's kinda pointless now because Bitcoin seems to be more of an investment/asset now than being a currency.

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a very important point , we all wait and secretly hope that bitcoin's price is going through the roof
while sitting on our asses or reading the news , lazily at best
adoption doesn't .. .adopt itself

, you have to work , each and every one of us every day , promotng bitcoin , informing about it and the benefits of the cryptocurrencies our friends and relatives
it goes a long way , even if it falls on deaf ears in 90% of the cases , that 10% of people will be eventually doing the same , increasing the awareness
the more people know about bitcoin , not from this 2 minute tv show , picturing crypto as something illegal or volatile etc. the more of them would want to read about it and buy it
hence increasing the price, help yourselves and others - tell about bitcoin to your relatives and neighbors, educate them and the results will come

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its almost 4 years now since I came across Bitcoin, I have done faucets,hyips, mining, lending investment, join ICOs, do bounties and trade up until now. But I admit 2018 was my first time to experience that drastic fluctuation in Bitcoin price and really lost a lot because of being unable to understand what is happening.

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Quote from: KnightElite on December 01, 2019, 05:05:24 AM

Quote from: strunberg on November 30, 2019, 08:24:19 AM

Quote from: huige007 on November 28, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

knowledge that will make us understand how to survive in our life. Is difficult to survive our self if we have no knowledge at all , meanwhile this world very cruel. We could be the victim from bad people or atleast we just be useless man without any knowledge. Today education give huge influence to our success story. By knowledge we will able to identify opportunity to earn money.

It is better if the education system that are we taking is in another level. What do I mean by that? The education system in our schools nowadays are poor education where they do not teach their students about money and financial literacy. We should educate our selves about it for us to have a knowledge for us to build wealth.

Hmmm, educational system should not be all around money and financial literacy. However I have to admit that current lack of this knowledge hits hard on these kids when they grow up. So after finishing school you have to make sure you understand how financial system works before you can even imagine yourself being successful.

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Quote from: strunberg on November 30, 2019, 08:24:19 AM

Quote from: huige007 on November 28, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

knowledge that will make us understand how to survive in our life. Is difficult to survive our self if we have no knowledge at all , meanwhile this world very cruel. We could be the victim from bad people or atleast we just be useless man without any knowledge. Today education give huge influence to our success story. By knowledge we will able to identify opportunity to earn money.

It is better if the education system that are we taking is in another level. What do I mean by that? The education system in our schools nowadays are poor education where they do not teach their students about money and financial literacy. We should educate our selves about it for us to have a knowledge for us to build wealth.

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Quote from: huige007 on November 28, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

knowledge that will make us understand how to survive in our life. Is difficult to survive our self if we have no knowledge at all , meanwhile this world very cruel. We could be the victim from bad people or atleast we just be useless man without any knowledge. Today education give huge influence to our success story. By knowledge we will able to identify opportunity to earn money.

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Quote from: huige007 on November 28, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Quote from: JC btc on November 27, 2019, 09:31:06 AM

Quote from: ChronoLite on November 27, 2019, 01:39:21 AM

Quote from: Karmakid on November 26, 2019, 09:28:39 AM

Quote from: ChronoLite on November 26, 2019, 07:36:40 AM

have been in cryptocurrency circle for like 4 years now and having so many good and bad side from any factor which I think it makes me realize that trading and investing on cryptocurrency is not such an easy task like everyone think, it requires you to think carefully and manage the strategy really well.

Even though outside the cryptocurrency trading or investing, you should still have to be very careful since there is always a risk involved in investing or trading. Right risk management and also planning well is one of the essential of trading and investing and if your recent investments or trades are not doing well then you should take a break from those things first and try to enhance and learn more things about those field in order to succeed and make more profits.

just learn more things without doing it in real place is not gonna work either. it's just having theory without practice, which makes you not learning anything and become lost when you are facing different situations in real place. learning more stuff is fine but make sure to test your knowledge

You are right, you are just like a student who are just going to school for the sake of diploma, although it is not necessary in real life to have a flying color to become successful but going to school teaches a lot of lesson, and one thing that I learned a lot is to have self discipline, to make yourself prepare for the future, and to value the time as in real life there's a lot of problems that you will encounter it will be up to you how you are going to handle.

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

saying this wont be wrong wither that education is what makes a human different from animals. We are better than all other creatures on the basis of brain and knowledge. Even among us, those who hold higher amount of wisdom get higher status and appreciation from big crowd. So education is also the basic standard to differentiate a skillful person from unskilled one. Without it, we cant use internet or crypto currencies too.

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Quote from: JC btc on November 27, 2019, 09:31:06 AM

Quote from: ChronoLite on November 27, 2019, 01:39:21 AM

Quote from: Karmakid on November 26, 2019, 09:28:39 AM

Quote from: ChronoLite on November 26, 2019, 07:36:40 AM

have been in cryptocurrency circle for like 4 years now and having so many good and bad side from any factor which I think it makes me realize that trading and investing on cryptocurrency is not such an easy task like everyone think, it requires you to think carefully and manage the strategy really well.

Even though outside the cryptocurrency trading or investing, you should still have to be very careful since there is always a risk involved in investing or trading. Right risk management and also planning well is one of the essential of trading and investing and if your recent investments or trades are not doing well then you should take a break from those things first and try to enhance and learn more things about those field in order to succeed and make more profits.

just learn more things without doing it in real place is not gonna work either. it's just having theory without practice, which makes you not learning anything and become lost when you are facing different situations in real place. learning more stuff is fine but make sure to test your knowledge

You are right, you are just like a student who are just going to school for the sake of diploma, although it is not necessary in real life to have a flying color to become successful but going to school teaches a lot of lesson, and one thing that I learned a lot is to have self discipline, to make yourself prepare for the future, and to value the time as in real life there's a lot of problems that you will encounter it will be up to you how you are going to handle.

Education holds highest value in the life of a person. Without going to school, e wont have been able to even read out words. It is not possible to survive in this time by not educating oneself. Everyone must at least know the basics of reading and writing. Educational institutes not only provide us knowledge but also groom the personality of person and build discipline in him.

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Quote from: DaftAjax on November 27, 2019, 01:10:14 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 25, 2019, 02:32:46 PM

Quote from: DaftAjax on November 24, 2019, 10:18:10 AM

Overtime fiat money will get worse, even more than it already is. And I think we are already experiencing it, bit by bit. I don't know what will the government do to prevent this or to slow it down. But considering how people treat Bitcoin right now, it's inevitable

Things are obviously more complex than that

As they say (well, actually that is what I say), not all fiats are born equal, and if the US dollar inflation is in fact quite negligible (while we shouldn't compare it on its own apart from the changes in wage rates within the same period as the latter are rising too), this is not the case with almost any other fiat currency out there (except for a few top currencies like Euro and Swiss frank). So the government, or rather governments, are not going to do anything about it for the simple reason they are the cause of price inflation and, most importantly, they are the ones profiting from it

That's even more detailed than I expected. In the end, the governments are profiting from this abomination. As the saying goes: "If it ain't broke, why even try fixing it?", that's what they say at least. Now, I don't know if I should get used to this, or to just live with it. I guess the latter is all I can do

That's not a secret and has been known since the beginning of fiats

During the American Civil War both sides, the confederates and the unionists alike, were printing paper dollars (gray and green backs respectively) like there was no tomorrow. And it did actually happen so that there was no tomorrow for the former. And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense as the winner takes it all, while "there's no sacred ground for the conquered and no rest for the wicked"

So no matter who wins, the means (in this case deliberately devaluing the national currency to squeeze more blood and sweat from the local populace) justify the ends. Wars are extreme cases, of course, but there is a lot of ground in between. I mean, for the printing press not to stop working even for a second. And that's why Bitcoin counts as there is no salvation in paper money, at least locally (globally only gold is likely going to make it anyway)

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Quote from: deisik on November 25, 2019, 02:32:46 PM

Quote from: DaftAjax on November 24, 2019, 10:18:10 AM

Overtime fiat money will get worse, even more than it already is. And I think we are already experiencing it, bit by bit. I don't know what will the government do to prevent this or to slow it down. But considering how people treat Bitcoin right now, it's inevitable

Things are obviously more complex than that

As they say (well, actually that is what I say), not all fiats are born equal, and if the US dollar inflation is in fact quite negligible (while we shouldn't compare it on its own apart from the changes in wage rates within the same period as the latter are rising too), this is not the case with almost any other fiat currency out there (except for a few top currencies like Euro and Swiss frank). So the government, or rather governments, are not going to do anything about it for the simple reason they are the cause of price inflation and, most importantly, they are the ones profiting from it

That's even more detailed than I expected. In the end, the governments are profiting from this abomination. As the saying goes: "If it ain't broke, why even try fixing it?", that's what they say at least. Now, I don't know if I should get used to this, or to just live with it. I guess the latter is all I can do.

I want to share something. Here in my country, Lawmaker B is completely against the proposal of Lawmaker A. Especially whenever it's catered to low~middle class citizens. Since he doesn't belong in that class (proudly) and does not give a crap about them, he would say a dilemma of "these are unnecessary". He would even suggest that he would rather make benefits for the businesses and corporations, especially for higher classes--with the dilemma "these are the necessities that would bring prosper for the country".

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Quote from: ChronoLite on November 27, 2019, 01:39:21 AM

Quote from: Karmakid on November 26, 2019, 09:28:39 AM

Quote from: ChronoLite on November 26, 2019, 07:36:40 AM

have been in cryptocurrency circle for like 4 years now and having so many good and bad side from any factor which I think it makes me realize that trading and investing on cryptocurrency is not such an easy task like everyone think, it requires you to think carefully and manage the strategy really well.

Even though outside the cryptocurrency trading or investing, you should still have to be very careful since there is always a risk involved in investing or trading. Right risk management and also planning well is one of the essential of trading and investing and if your recent investments or trades are not doing well then you should take a break from those things first and try to enhance and learn more things about those field in order to succeed and make more profits.

just learn more things without doing it in real place is not gonna work either. it's just having theory without practice, which makes you not learning anything and become lost when you are facing different situations in real place. learning more stuff is fine but make sure to test your knowledge

You are right, you are just like a student who are just going to school for the sake of diploma, although it is not necessary in real life to have a flying color to become successful but going to school teaches a lot of lesson, and one thing that I learned a lot is to have self discipline, to make yourself prepare for the future, and to value the time as in real life there's a lot of problems that you will encounter it will be up to you how you are going to handle.

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