Topic: beginners be very carefull - page 3. (Read 9313 times)

Who is mont.gov?  I've never heard of them.

This question seems a little silly, but I'll give an honest (and equally silly) answer:

If someone's bitcoins are stolen, then they have lost their bitcoins.  If they keep their wallet secure and their bitcoins are not stolen, then they will not have lost their bitcoins.

Q Question:

When mont.Gov is hacked of another company, especially blockchain.info, and they steel all the bitcoins,
is that a big problem for the clients? In other words: the client lost his bitcoins now?

greetz, peter

There are no maths because mining is based on luck...
you can only "see" after if you have earnt or not...and how much.

if you are curious then invest in my U2cloudmining system (for free) and you will get the answer.

It is horrible...(lol) to say it...but it is possible to make profit with anything you want...even with one unprofitable U2 miner.

Invest in a newspaper talking about profit...you can make profit.
Invest in a newspaper talking about lost...you can make profit.

it is why my system makes profit...and sorry for all my detractors..;it is so...it is the truth...I tell you the truth...
and my detractors saying that I'm a scammer and a ponzi sheme runner are liars...

it is why...dear beginners...be very careful...yes
Not only about scammers but as well about all the liars who tell you that this one or that one is a scammer.

Sometimes they only say it because they want just make a post to get sign campaign cash (lol)

i think cloud mining is risky i mean we dont actually know that they are trully have rigs or do mining, but mining would be profitable if you have a big capital and lot of rigs and cheap electricity of course, just saying

I'll eat my hat if anyone can show me the maths that makes cloud mining profitable/worthwhile. When I did the maths, it just never worked out.

The layout of the site seems like a site which is created without seriousness

Thanks for mentioning this. I was thinking of buying some cloud mining contracts tomorrow after getting hold of some Bitcoins but this seems a pretty loss buddy

-Dean

the only because you have not tried my uncommon U2cloudmining system.
if you invest for free you are sure to have profit.

The only cloud mining service that I;ve had a profit from was, hashprofit, none else.

Thank you for sahring you ruff experience. I'll be sure to avoid the site and keep watch for other sort of scams

     If they had given all the information needed to make a good decision, then they would have directed, informed, or provided him of the existence of the calculator or other means of estimating his ROI, before hand.  Like I said before at some point in your life you, just like everyone else, had to rely on someone not taking advantage of you.  Just because someone can take advantage, does not make it right.  If more people had your attitude open source would not exist.  The free flow of information would be blocked and censored, creativity would ebb.  History has shown that greed can stagnant social, creative, industrial, and technological advancement.  If you constantly have to worry about being scammed, by every single person you meet, people begin to not engage actively.  Why go through the hassle when it's most likely we will get scammed?  Due diligence does not always prove effective, as many we thought were trustworthy, end up not being trustworthy.  Even on this forum there are cases of senior high level members who have scammed others. 

    The problem is yours, and many others in society, belief that this is acceptable and just a fact of life.  It's that thinking that leads us down the path of acceptance, making us more and more obliging to improper behavior and situations.  Corporations and governments rely on such behavior, breaking our own laws we create, using that to press us as you would sheep.  Causing us to accept what is is wrong, making us believe we must conform to the change, passively we believe it's not worth the fight to make a change, what difference does it make, It doesn't effect me.

     So yes, your attitude is in fact the exact reason this exists.  And selling someone a pumpkin knowing full well they believe its a carriage, doesn't make me a princess, nor them legit.

I feel that it is your responsibility to determine if their product is profitable before buying it, not theirs. It is up to you to make the decision, not them. I don't condone fraud. This is not fraud. They give you all the information you need to make a good decision.

As for my attitude being the reason for the existence of scammers, you have it exactly backwards. If more people had my attitude, there would be fewer people to scam.

     Are you serious?  Let me guess you own a cloud mining company?  The fact that they knowingly sell a product that has no way in any capacity to deliver a viable product to the purchaser, and knowing full well, that when ROI is discussed with the salesperson, they do nothing to dissuade the customers belief they will be profitable, is point in fact, deceptive, unethical, and criminal in every single way you look at it. 

     Your attitude is one of the major reasons btc and crypto-currency has the image of being nothing but a scam.  Why don't you go take some kids candy then tell them it's their own fault for not being able to stop you from doing so.  I guess you forgot at some point in your life you didn't know everything and relied on people to be honest and not take advantage of you.  This exact attitude is why scammers exist.  Maybe next you can go on some child abuse support forums and tell them how it was their fault also, how those people who did that to them didn't do anything wrong because they let those people, the ones they trusted, do the things they did.  Maybe you could become a police officer they're about as effective.  Get of your pillar, all you're doing is making the problem worse by making comments supporting the actions of a scam.

that because you did not bought the entire hash, but only a small portion, that's your problem

your income is so low that the maintanance surpass it

It's maintenance fees not consumation fees...
For me nothing seels wrong.
it happens sometimes that maintenance fees for 1Ghs are over the mining income.

well something is wrong, since 1 antminer s7 consume far less than the what it generate, so there is no way that you are minig at loss via their cloud

otherwise it would be pointless for them to even run a cloud mining system

Nothing is sure with hashnest...how can you talk about 10 months?


As you can see we have paid more fees than income.

if like you said:"How to earn something without investing anything or very little" then my U2cloudmining is made specialy for you 

The first investors have now invested 50000 satoshi or so FOR FREE
it is based on a real econnomy and "market regulation".
It is now a little harder to get free shares.
tomorrow or in a weenk perhaps even more harder,but perhaps more easy.
it is the "market" who will regulate it.

You have absolutly not to be careful for claiming for free...
you have just to decide if you claim or if you do not claim for free.
If you do not claim...other ones will do it for you and take the shares (or better said a part of your shares)
After we have not to forget that it is a game...where you can claim for free or sell for satoshi your shares with 10% bonus.
You and only you decide what is better for you.
After ok...for investing with your own satoshi you have to be more careful...I agree.
I agree because one do not know if the shares will be profitable.
if you lose 5% of free shares it is not a bit pain...but 5% lost of invested satoshi is painfull.

It is why I want to add:
beginners be very carefull about what here is writen...
many systems are scam...but not every ones.

yeah try with hashnest, they have the s7 asic which it very efficient, you should roi in 10 months in the worst case

the problem is that you need to spend big at the beginning, because they are not selling portion of the hahspower of the asic

Most (if not all) cloud mining sites are either scams or are not profitable. Honestly, it is up to you to figure which ones (if any) are worth risking money on. If you can't (or don't want to) do basic due diligence, then you should stay away because you are just going to lose money.