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Quote from: Juliamit on January 03, 2016, 02:32:46 AM

Is hashnest a good cloud mining site?

they are the best cloudmining site, they also have the last asic tech

too bad there is a minimum in purchasing their hashpower, you can not for example purchase less than one unit, otherwise one can try how fast the roi will actually come in

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Quote from: bitcoinear on January 02, 2016, 05:06:13 PM

This is a known issue. Even "old" members are often getting scammed by such sites. Never trust someone here.
The case of Master-P shows that even the trustful people are not trustful Wink

Yeah it's hard to find a trusted person in this forum. even old member escrow like master-p also can scam you. i think we need something new to prevent this.

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Quote from: Juliamit on January 03, 2016, 02:32:46 AM

Is hashnest a good cloud mining site?

so far yes...but you have to trade a minimum becauce the Gh/s is fluctuating...if you let sleep them...you can risk losing.
so far I was lucky with hashnest.

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Is hashnest a good cloud mining site?

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Cloud mining sucks Wink

I got ripped off by http://pbmining.com a year ago, the sad newbie experience many of us go through.

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Quote from: bitcoinear on January 02, 2016, 05:06:13 PM

This is a known issue. Even "old" members are often getting scammed by such sites. Never trust someone here.
The case of Master-P shows that even the trustful people are not trustful Wink

I'd like to second this. I happen to think that most of the old timers here with green trust are in fact trustworthy, but yeah. I said it before: the Master-P situation is disheartening, and it's not a good idea at all to trust anyone here. The best way to pull a long scam is to acquire trust first.

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This is a known issue. Even "old" members are often getting scammed by such sites. Never trust someone here.
The case of Master-P shows that even the trustful people are not trustful Wink

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Quote from: AncilVTwo on January 02, 2016, 04:21:31 PM

this is why i dont do cloudmining lol , its just too much of a hassle and the profit is insignificant.

Insignificant profit is better then insignificant lost...And I prefer not compare it with big lost or complet lost.

The "class" is to choose the good ones...
It is so easy to say everything is scam...
No...all is not scam,if it were so it would be easy to choose...the problem is that everything is not scam.
have noze...(lol)

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this is why i dont do cloudmining lol , its just too much of a hassle and the profit is insignificant.

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Quote from: achow101 on January 02, 2016, 01:15:58 PM

Quote from: to64time on January 02, 2016, 01:09:54 PM

If I escrow with somebody can they still scam me? Like if i send skrill can they somehow get my $ and never send me the bitcoin? Kinda like on paypal u can send money but then void it type of thing

Yes. That is why you use escrow. The idea is that the escrow is someone that both parties trust so he is entrusted with the Bitcoin while you send the other person the goods (e.g. digital stuff, skrill, paypal, etc.). When you confirm that the trade has happened the escrow releases the money to you.

If I sell bitcoin using a escrow to somebody with paypal, will the buyer still scam me by reversing the transaction?

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Cloud mining is really just going about the marketing all wrong. What they need to be selling you on is sure you might only be getting half of your money back if you were to sell you cryptocurrency now but what if you hold it. From what I gather nobody really knows exactly what is going to happen with it. If you look at BTCs history you can easily see where once upon a time it was probably the most profitable investment anyone ever made as far as ROI%. What they need to be selling you on is an easy way to accumulate these coins for a fairly cheap wager. I've bet more than $65 on plenty of football games. If someone wanted to sell me on accumulating a little of this for $65 just in case it blows up, I'd probably be game. What's the worst that could happen?

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Quote from: to64time on January 02, 2016, 01:09:54 PM

If I escrow with somebody can they still scam me? Like if i send skrill can they somehow get my $ and never send me the bitcoin? Kinda like on paypal u can send money but then void it type of thing

Yes. That is why you use escrow. The idea is that the escrow is someone that both parties trust so he is entrusted with the Bitcoin while you send the other person the goods (e.g. digital stuff, skrill, paypal, etc.). When you confirm that the trade has happened the escrow releases the money to you.

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If I escrow with somebody can they still scam me? Like if i send skrill can they somehow get my $ and never send me the bitcoin? Kinda like on paypal u can send money but then void it type of thing

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Quote from: niktitan132 on December 27, 2015, 08:24:23 PM

Quote from: achow101 on December 26, 2015, 10:00:12 PM

Quote from: niktitan132 on December 26, 2015, 09:53:00 PM

Mining in general is a big scam. The cloud miners are the real puppet masters of mining and they are scamming us all.
Stay away from mining is my words of advice.

How is mining a scam? Mining is the method by which transactions are included in blocks to prevent them from being double spent. Mining is an integral part of Bitcoin, without it, Bitcoin wouldn't work.

Cloud mining is different, and most of the time cloud mining doesn't actually mine, they are usually just ponzi or pyramid schemes.

It was not intended to be a scam, its just over time with the centralization of mining and no room for the little guy to make any money anymore. Its more of a ponzi really. With nothing in it anymore for us little guys.

There is still room for the little guy to make money. You just need cheap electricity and you will be making some money.

Obviously you don't know how a ponzi scheme works since mining is not like that.

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Quote from: achow101 on December 26, 2015, 10:00:12 PM

Quote from: niktitan132 on December 26, 2015, 09:53:00 PM

Mining in general is a big scam. The cloud miners are the real puppet masters of mining and they are scamming us all.
Stay away from mining is my words of advice.

How is mining a scam? Mining is the method by which transactions are included in blocks to prevent them from being double spent. Mining is an integral part of Bitcoin, without it, Bitcoin wouldn't work.

Cloud mining is different, and most of the time cloud mining doesn't actually mine, they are usually just ponzi or pyramid schemes.

It was not intended to be a scam, its just over time with the centralization of mining and no room for the little guy to make any money anymore. Its more of a ponzi really. With nothing in it anymore for us little guys.

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Quote from: Hellacopter on December 27, 2015, 10:31:21 AM

The cloud mining sites nowadays are just scammers and Ponzi schemes, so just be aware from this schemes and sites, and be careful before investing any amount there. That's just another warning and scam alert.

You can't fit 100 percent of them into that catagory. Sadly yes a lot are scams... it's sad but true.

But what about hashnest? I think they are ok personally, I could be wrong but I think most would agree with me on that. So just make sure you know where your investing before you do it.

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The cloud mining sites nowadays are just scammers and Ponzi schemes, so just be aware from this schemes and sites, and be careful before investing any amount there. That's just another warning and scam alert.

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Quote from: Decoded on December 27, 2015, 02:48:32 AM

That's why I invested $20 on a lifetime contract with them. I'll get my ROI 1 year from now, I recieve 0.0002 each day. What's your daily profit?

Most cloud mining investments are bullcrap anyway, and mostly ponzis. I invested in genesis mining mainly for kicks. If you think that cloud mining is profitable, something is wrong with you. Go participate in a signature campaign or something, or trade altcoin. Not try to go for some passive income.

Why are you saying that all are bullcrap???
Not all, but mostly...
And you can gain better with signature campaigns, but if you invest them in some good and reputed cloud mining companies, I have seen many that ROI you in 6 - 7 months, or instead go for an S7 which costs around 3 - 3.5 BTC and you will be able to ROI in 5 - 7 months based on electricity and hardware costs...

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That's why I invested $20 on a lifetime contract with them. I'll get my ROI 1 year from now, I recieve 0.0002 each day. What's your daily profit?

Most cloud mining investments are bullcrap anyway, and mostly ponzis. I invested in genesis mining mainly for kicks. If you think that cloud mining is profitable, something is wrong with you. Go participate in a signature campaign or something, or trade altcoin. Not try to go for some passive income.

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Quote from: niktitan132 on December 26, 2015, 09:53:00 PM

Mining in general is a big scam. The cloud miners are the real puppet masters of mining and they are scamming us all.
Stay away from mining is my words of advice.

if you have 0.05-0.10 electricity you cna mine with your own miner, and no scam is involved, i would do it immediately if i had the possibility

then you simply sell your miner if the roi is too hard to achieve

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