Topic: Beginners Mistake - page 2. (Read 505 times)

To be honest mods doesn't always banning an account if they caught you're doing plagiarism. A newbie account usually got nuked/temporary ban instead of banned since mods still gave him one more chance.

But, for some reason mods will banned quickly if the account is bring negative vibes, repeating his fault, too much plagiarism post etc.

Actually its part of educating you since if the person you said didn't report you for sure you will encounter huge consequences of your action and lucky the staff here didn't ban your account so learn from this mistake and educate to know more about things in this forum, Don't use the newbie words since you can actually use the search bar to seek for information you needed here.

It was written in the rules that we should avoid plagiarism and yet you committed it, even though haven't read yet the rules, the sanction will still keep on you, being a beginner isn't an excuse, we are all responsible for reading the rules of every forum that we are going to join. I didn't know if you are familiar with any forums but for every forum that we have in this crypto world, there are always rules that we should obey in order for the forum to be organized. I cant imagine a forum to be successful if there are no rules and moderators that will observe every member.

We are all responsible to know the things we should know in this forum, we can ask other members through creating a topic, it will lead you to the right path.

I know you know that plagiarism is not a good thing and can be considered as a crime but you still did that thing, the violation that you have isn't for beginner because it is thought from ou schools and in our daily lives, so the punishment of being banned is deserved for those persons who commited it.

As stated above, you have virtually confesses to be ban evading, and thus should not be posting here (you may only post in Meta to create a ban appeal).

When I joined the forum, I was not aware of the existence of rules. Hell, I thought you could just post away as you pleased, and it never occurred to me that one was submitted to rules in any way. Likewise, it also did not occur to me to copy and paste content though. Yes, you read, gather information, (sometimes) contrast and cross-reference, but in the end, you pour your mind in your own words, as a seemingly natural approach to communication.

Of course, there are a few rules or situations that are not that intuitive. I was barely a month into my account when I joined an airdrop where I posted one of those classical “proof of join” posts on their thread, along with an ETH address. Somehow, that lead to being proposed, amongst a bunch of other accounts, for being nuked. I was unaware of this fact until sometime later but, had my account been nuked, I certainly would not be here now (nor any alt/morph account).

By the above, I mean that rules are, for the most, not prohibiting anything unreasonable, and normally, one complies with them unknowingly. There is though the factor of earlier exposure, which does have a chance to improve (i.e. a simple welcome message/email that empathises some things). People will still do what they will, but at least they’d be warned from the moment they join the forum (if they read it).

“Ignorance of the law is no excuse”

You committed plagiarism, hence you got banned. You would've known that rule if you actually read the Unofficial Bitcointalk rules, which is frequently mentioned in this forum. It might be quite a harsh rule, but it's a necessary one.

This is a forum, it has rules we should follow, so not to fall out of the forum norms and ways of posting. In short, we have posting etiquettes. Where there are no laws, there are no sins, people can do the way they want, but, this forum is not like that. This forum condone no such mistake, I mean plagiarism and spamming. For new users that spam on this forum, ones it is evident from another source, the person will be banned, and it will be a permanent ban.

For example, even if an organization wants to employe you, they will have to first interview you, before the interview, you would have browsed about the company, knowing more about them, so that you will not failed the interview. This is just like reading the forum rules, and it is not only about reading the rules, it is also about abiding to it. I do not expect people to do what could put them in trouble, while some people still like doing it by disobeying.

There are some mistakes that worth correction, some newbies can even still be adamant to the correction, arguing and even implying ranked members are the ones that are not correct. Even after all such things, ranked members still do correct newbies all the time on this this, especially because of their newbie misconception about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. So, implying ranked members not correcting newbies, this is wrong, they always do correct newbies very well. But, not to the extent newbies are againsting the rules of the forum which can get them permanent ban. It is all over everywhere, not only this forum, that spamming and plagiarism they do not condone.

Another scenerio, if you are in an examination hall, and you are copying your fellow students, if you are seen by a supervisor, it can also get you in trouble that can result to the person to fail the example or carry the course over.  Do just obey the rules of the forum is a requisite to you not getting banned.

Well, that's the point... You can't be a member of this forum UNTILL you are no longer banned. This means: creating a ban appeal thread and ONLY posting in said thread. No matter how many accounts you have/make, as long as a single one of them is banned, you are 100% restricted to posting in one thread in the meta subforum, and you can only use this thread to discuss your ban.

I know this sounds harsh, I didn't make the rules, but by discussing anything besides your ban, you are violating the rules and you'll probably end up getting this account banned aswel.

There are more Newbies and beginners who will make same mistakes and my sole purpose for these post is to educate them or rather create the awareness to them. That the forum have rules and regulations governing it  that they should always endeavor to read all possible information about the forum and have full understanding before commencing. There are many to learn here and I’m glad to be here to educate myself more about Cryptocurrency and help in my own little way to improve Cryptocurrency. I learnt my lesson the hard way and wish to be help other newbies and beginners not to encounter the same mistake. I hope to be a better member of these forum.

Well, let's start with educating newbies: you were banned due to plagiarism (at least, i suppose you were banned... you never said you were in your post, but the punishment for plagiarism is a permanent ban, so i  can only suppose you got your account banned).

Since you said this happened a couple weeks ago, and this account was created less than a week ago, i can only conclude you created a new account after your first account was banned.

Now, here comes the education: after your initial ban, you *should* have taken the time to read the rules... You were banned, and since you created this post, i can only assume you were unhappy about this, so the least you should have done is read the rules before starting to post again...

Now, since it's clear you didn't read the rules, i'll just quote from the list of rules that can be found in this sticky topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657


The correct sequence would have been
1) you were banned, for whatever reason
2) you wait for your ban to expire, or in case this takes to long (or if you have a permanent ban): you are allowed to create a new account and make one topic in meta to discuss your ban. Posting outside this one topic is considered ban evasion.
3) you either get a pardon from Theymos and he unbans you, or you are no longer allowed to post on bitcointalk. Do realise it's you that is banned, not your account. If you create a new account this is called ban evasion, which will get you banned again (actually, you never have been unbanned to begin with)

I experienced something heart broken here as a newbie couple of weeks ago. Yes I understand the fact these platform/Forum have rules governing it but as humans we are prone to make mistakes and take correction. I wrote a topic here couple of weeks ago and someone I sopose to be a serious member of these forum reported my post for plagiarism, reasons being he/she highlights some line of my sentence and   claimed it’s copy and paste,that action cost me a lost. There are better ways to correct and guide a newbie or beginners without having to condemn their post, We aren’t robot we all humans and we rise by lifting others. Please our senior members and legends should look into these or probably initiate a means to educate newbies and beginners so we don’t fall victim always while trying to create our own post just like other members of the forum.