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legendary
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April 13, 2023, 04:18:37 PM
#35
If anything you said would be true, then i assume that local Russians are ok with sanctions. When sanctions started ton of people were worried that it would hurt regular people in russia that haven't done anything. But i can't say if you are trolling or not. I guess west was now smart and thought about it in advance. Or how are trolls thinking now?

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If a digital ruble is created in Russia, it will make it possible to force people to do the “right” actions, under the threat of a complete ban on the use of their money.  Blacklisted people will not be able to buy the goods, works and services they need.  

At present, this looks like a utopia, but in the future it is possible (and not only in Russia).
Ruble being CBDC or in any other form wouldn't solve any of their issues unless lack of surveillance is one of them. And funny that you used word utopia instead of dystopia. Can you elaborate on this?



In fact, for me, utopia, dystopia and real life are synonymous. 

Since the beginning of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic, I have had the feeling that I was in some kind of terrible dream - a nightmare.  And you can't wake up....

I agree with you that there is a difference between the terms utopia and dystopia.  The term utopia is positive, and dystopia is negative.  Therefore, the introduction of CBDC is, of course, a dystopia (building a digital concentration camp). 

The very idea of ​​programmable centralized digital money is not an absolute evil.  I admit the idea that CBDCs can become an effective financial tool, but only in a situation where managers have clear and understandable strategic goals (as well as a positive picture of the future).  And if this is not the case, then the introduction of CBDC is another step towards building a digital concentration camp. 

Why is it necessary to introduce CBDC?  To establish total control and maintain the power of the ruling elite. 

Unfortunately, issues of maintaining power, as a rule, always take precedence over issues of economic development and improving the well-being of the people.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 11:42:26 AM
#34
The Russian economy has been buried many times already, but Russia is a God-saved country. Prices for electronics are now traditional and do not drastically differ from world prices, if you do not look at expensive brands. The entire budget segment is inexpensive. Cars are much more expensive, but all misfortunes come to an end someday. Rich people can live in any country, but they will lose their profitable business in Russia, and it is difficult to make money in a new country. Poor people have long returned, because it has become expensive to live in the same Turkey.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 11:31:56 AM
#33
The western sanctions will have a slow and graduate impact over the Russian economy. The negative impact will probably be higher in the upcoming years. Russia still has currency reserves, so the budget deficit can be covered. I wonder what will happen, after Russia consumes all the currency reserves and the budget deficit increases? Where will the Russian government find money to cover the budget deficit? Increasing taxes? Seeking a foreign loan from China, India or Saudi Arabia? Cutting government costs(which is close to impossible right now)?
Anyway, the life of the "average Ivan" in Russia won't change that much in 2023.

The currency reserves won't be enough to cover it all if they don't have any source of income for more than a punishing year. In addition to providing money to solve life problems for people in wartime, they also have to spend a lot on defense and the army because war costs them a lot of weapons. Failure to replenish the arsenal in time would endanger national security. Russia has excellent relations with China and India, so I don't think they will run out of money and run a budget deficit. Up to now, EU sanctions have had little effect on Russia. Meanwhile, I will be more worried for the people of the EU if the war does not end before this winter because so far for the energy issue, they have not found a better solution than Russia.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 11:08:56 AM
#32
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after the departure of Facebook, the WeChat super app appeared there. Think about it at your leisure.
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Lol, It figures. I guess surveillance tools are somehow better when they are from totalitarian dictatorship thought polices that are jailing/executing the opposition and not by private companies for advertising purposes. I heard that Putin has a cancer. Let's hope for the best. Thoughs and prayers.
copper member
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White Russian
April 13, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
#31
If anything you said would be true, then i assume that local Russians are ok with sanctions. When sanctions started ton of people were worried that it would hurt regular people in russia that haven't done anything. But i can't say if you are trolling or not. I guess west was now smart and thought about it in advance. Or how are trolls thinking now?
Personally, I am not so much against sanctions, but most resolutely for them. For Russia, Western sanctions are a huge benefit. With the voluntary withdrawal of Western companies, so many free niches have appeared on the market that Russia is now experiencing a real entrepreneurial boom with the active support of the state with grants and subsidies. This is reminiscent of the situation in China, when, after the departure of Facebook, the WeChat super app appeared there. Think about it at your leisure.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 09:33:52 AM
#30
If anything you said would be true, then i assume that local Russians are ok with sanctions. When sanctions started ton of people were worried that it would hurt regular people in russia that haven't done anything. But i can't say if you are trolling or not. I guess west was now smart and thought about it in advance. Or how are trolls thinking now?

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If a digital ruble is created in Russia, it will make it possible to force people to do the “right” actions, under the threat of a complete ban on the use of their money.  Blacklisted people will not be able to buy the goods, works and services they need.  

At present, this looks like a utopia, but in the future it is possible (and not only in Russia).
Ruble being CBDC or in any other form wouldn't solve any of their issues unless lack of surveillance is one of them. And funny that you used word utopia instead of dystopia. Can you elaborate on this?

copper member
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White Russian
April 13, 2023, 09:29:21 AM
#29
The western sanctions will have a slow and graduate impact over the Russian economy. The negative impact will probably be higher in the upcoming years. Russia still has currency reserves, so the budget deficit can be covered. I wonder what will happen, after Russia consumes all the currency reserves and the budget deficit increases? Where will the Russian government find money to cover the budget deficit? Increasing taxes? Seeking a foreign loan from China, India or Saudi Arabia? Cutting government costs(which is close to impossible right now)?
Anyway, the life of the "average Ivan" in Russia won't change that much in 2023.
A year ago, Biden told everyone that the Russian economy had already been torn to shreds twice. Then the rhetoric changed that sanctions are working very slowly and the most terrible consequences will be sometime in the future. And then gradually comes the epiphany that right now the annual inflation in Russia is 3.5%, which is less than in the US and much less than in Europe. But you wait and believe, sometime in the future, the sanctions will definitely work as they should. Grin

Western sanctions remind me of the prohibitions of our RosKomNadzor, according to which this forum is not accessible from Russia. I am from Russia and I am here.
sr. member
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April 13, 2023, 07:11:13 AM
#28
As for the ruble, I doubt foreign traders will accept it as a means of payment. I mean, what are they to do with it? It will be difficult for them to exchange it. That's a very unpopular currency right now. I don't think even Chinese traders will eagerly accept it. That is why Russia is trading with the yuan, and trading with the yuan adds no significant progress to their economy, it's just swapping one foreign currency for another. So instead of strengthening the dollar, they are strengthening the yuan.


Unconditional surrender is on the way out for Ukraine. Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel singed unconditional surrender. Biden administration is urging Zelenskyy regime to start its last and most likely suicidal offensive because current situation is unsustainable. It would be difficult to convince republican congress to wasting hundreds of billons on this lost of war. Mr Zelenskyy in January introduced even harsher punishment for desertion and disobedience. A disabled person was drafted in western Ukraine and pronounced fit for service despite having no hands. Another died on the front lines within a month of mobilization after 10 days of training, according to his relatives. Zelenskyy is officially catching and forced conscripting even disabled. When such people are in the trenches, it means that the front collapse at any moment.
hero member
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April 13, 2023, 06:46:01 AM
#27
The western sanctions will have a slow and graduate impact over the Russian economy. The negative impact will probably be higher in the upcoming years. Russia still has currency reserves, so the budget deficit can be covered. I wonder what will happen, after Russia consumes all the currency reserves and the budget deficit increases? Where will the Russian government find money to cover the budget deficit? Increasing taxes? Seeking a foreign loan from China, India or Saudi Arabia? Cutting government costs(which is close to impossible right now)?
Anyway, the life of the "average Ivan" in Russia won't change that much in 2023.
sr. member
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April 13, 2023, 06:31:43 AM
#26
A lot of Russians and Ukrainians live in Turkkey now. In some areas they outnumber Turkish people. Especially the rich Russians came here and live a comfortable life. When I talk to my friends in Russia, they say that life there isn't too bad either. The public wasn't affected much by the sanctions. Politically there isn't much difference either. Just as Russia has been governed for years, so is Türkiye, by the same one man. Only those who come here from a democratic country can understand the negative effects of this. For the Russians this isn't a problem.


Absolutely right lakh of people moving Turkey leaving their own motherland Russia after announcement from their President Putin. He said that in the requirement ordinary people must have to to go for war after then thousand of people was leaving their country everyday. There is an information in one year 30 Lakh Russian people is settled down in Turkey. But Turkey government is not giving clear details how much Russian people is settled. Turkey is a member of NATO but for gas Turkey is totally depend upon Russia that's the reason Turkey is trying to stay away from this war. Russian people give much preferences to Turkey because  Turkey is a member of NATO that's why they can stay away from Putin's aggression.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 03:45:47 AM
#25
I live in Russia, in a province quite far from Moscow. I can't say that in economic terms nothing has changed over the year - some things got better, some things got worse. In general, people here live an ordinary normal life.

Probably the most significant change after the imposition of sanctions - we had to change the dry food for the cat. Previously, the cat ate Royal Canin food, at some point this food began to rise sharply in price and I had to switch to dry food from a local manufacturer, which is better in composition and cheaper in price. I myself also faced sanctions restrictions when I recently wanted to buy summer sneakers, it turned out that Adidas left Russia and I had to buy local brand sneakers. I can’t say that it upset me a lot, the cat doesn’t complain either.

How do you feel about recruiters walking around town handing out conscription notes? Not long ago there was an article that they're planning to send summons through email and mobile phones and if you ignore them you'll get your driving license suspended and won't be able to get a loan.
On one hand Russians are doing fine because they're alive, have a place to live, food in stores, Internet, but on the other a lot of products disappeared from stores, they don't have enough paper to print labels and car parts for EU and US made cars. Russians seem to be fine because they used to drive Ladas and will probably drive them 10 years from now, but all is not as good as they're painting it.

In my opinion, the electronic conscription system works a little differently.  

Previously, men could evade receiving a summons for military service (for example, receiving a summons for partial mobilization).  As long as they did not sign for the receipt of the summons and did not appear at the military registration and enlistment office, they did not face criminal liability.  Now the situation has changed dramatically.  The mobilization summons will be considered handed over to the man from the moment the corresponding entry appears in the electronic register of summons (regardless of whether the person liable for military service knows about this fact or not).  

In principle, if mobilization is announced, such subpoena entries in the digital subpoena register could be made automatically in respect of 25 million Russian men.  As a result, they will be automatically banned from traveling abroad and their driver's license will be revoked.  Even if men do not voluntarily come to the military registration and enlistment offices, mass raids on the streets of villages and cities can be organized with the help of the police.  All men caught in this way will be required to go to the front under threat of criminal prosecution.  

It is clear that this can be regarded as a fantasy (for example, criminal liability for refusing to mobilize has not yet been introduced by law), but I have such an opinion as a result of analyzing the text of the bill and reading the comments of lawyers on military law.

At present, the possibility of declaring mobilization (especially full mobilization) in Russia is denied.  The new system of electronic agendas is declared as an improvement in the military registration system.
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April 13, 2023, 02:44:42 AM
#24

Yea, NATO underestimated the Russian economy but the sanctions are not meant to cripple their economy immediately. It's a slow process. The problem I have with sanctions is that they are not on Putin, they affect the whole economy and the common man. Sanction does nothing to Putin directly, he's still protected, and he is still powerful even if his country suffers in the long run. The Russian Ruble has been losing value but that doesn't affect him. Inflation is increasing in the country, but that doesn't affect him, soldiers and civilians and dying but that doesn't affect him.

International sanctions are imposed not only against the initiators of the aggressive war in Ukraine, but also against the country as a whole, its military-industrial complex, economy, legal entities and all citizens in general, in order to make them realize the criminal nature of the seizure of foreign territories in the 21st century in the center of Europe and encourage concrete action to end it. Sanctions are designed to reduce the financing of the war, and therefore Putin alone cannot do here. It is absolutely logical that every Russian will eventually feel the negative consequences of the attack on Ukraine, and not only those living today, but also their descendants, who will have to pay reparations to Ukraine for the material and moral damage caused for a long time to come. The sanctions are only gaining momentum, so the worst time for the Russians is ahead and they need to get used to it.

It will be necessary to pay for the pleasure of killing, torturing, robbing and raping in Ukraine, to pay to all Russians, without exception, who could not prevent and then stop this war. Therefore, there are no innocent Russians in Russia, all murderers or accomplices of murderers. Everyone contributes to this ongoing war. The killer is not only the one who recently cut off the head of a captive Ukrainian who was defending his country from the invasion of killer orcs, but also those who, through their inaction, contributed to this.
legendary
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April 13, 2023, 01:45:14 AM
#23
In Russia, there is another trend - the introduction of a digital ruble (CBDC). 

The project was planned to be launched from April 1, 2023, but serious technical difficulties arose during its implementation.  However, I do not rule out that all these technical problems will eventually be resolved. 

Firstly, in the Russian Federation, the prime minister is the former head of the tax service, Mishustin.  Mishustin is a very systematic person who managed to organize electronic digital document management in the field of taxes and fees.  From a technical point of view, the tax system in Russia functions perfectly. 

Secondly, specialists from China can be involved in the creation of the digital ruble. 

If a digital ruble is created in Russia, it will make it possible to force people to do the “right” actions, under the threat of a complete ban on the use of their money.  Blacklisted people will not be able to buy the goods, works and services they need. 

At present, this looks like a utopia, but in the future it is possible (and not only in Russia).


When many began to "clap their hands" about "the CBDC will come, the dollar will die" and "cryptocurrency wins", I warned - CBDC is an instrument of POWER and TOTAL control. The very concept of CBDC is to
1. Minimize, or reduce to 0, any uncontrolled movement of funds from the population
2. implement mechanisms for full CONTROL of funds.
What is this about?
1. Any transaction in the CBDC network will be controlled, and the entire history of your transactions can be easily traced. Moreover, in such a network it is extremely easy to identify LINKS between "financial partners".
2. Any of your cents will be blocked as soon as you become a "suspicious person". It's just an account and there is money on it, but you can't pay anything with it. People will no longer own their money.

But someone sees a fabulous dream "there will be no hegemony of the dollar", not realizing that when such a solution is launched in the country where the "rejoicing" person lives, he will not have any money at some point Smiley

And for Russia - yes, it is also the raising of the "financial iron curtain" from within the country, so that no one can withdraw a penny anywhere, bypassing state control. And fleeing a country without money is still a "pleasure"
sr. member
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April 12, 2023, 06:42:36 PM
#22
I will not totally agree that the war did not affect Russians negatively. But I will believe that this invasion have both affected the economy of Russia positively and negatively. Russians are now buying locally made products which is a good thing to the Russian economy. Local industries now have less competition from foreign product which will make them make profit and increase employment opportunities. Russians have been forced to negotiate trade using the Russian Ruble which help to reduce their overreliance on the US dollars. The negative implication is that there are lesser foreign direct investment, limited product substitute, unemployment and reduced transfer of technology.

But I will also accept that the US and NATO underestimated the Russian economy. They thought their multiple sanctions will cripple the invader's economy, but they were surprise that their predictions failed. It is clear that Russia have prepared for this war and the resultant sanctions. The economy seems to be sanction proof.           

Yea, NATO underestimated the Russian economy but the sanctions are not meant to cripple their economy immediately. It's a slow process. The problem I have with sanctions is that they are not on Putin, they affect the whole economy and the common man. Sanction does nothing to Putin directly, he's still protected, and he is still powerful even if his country suffers in the long run. The Russian Ruble has been losing value but that doesn't affect him. Inflation is increasing in the country, but that doesn't affect him, soldiers and civilians and dying but that doesn't affect him.

As for the ruble, I doubt foreign traders will accept it as a means of payment. I mean, what are they to do with it? It will be difficult for them to exchange it. That's a very unpopular currency right now. I don't think even Chinese traders will eagerly accept it. That is why Russia is trading with the yuan, and trading with the yuan adds no significant progress to their economy, it's just swapping one foreign currency for another. So instead of strengthening the dollar, they are strengthening the yuan.
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April 12, 2023, 05:32:50 PM
#21
A lot of Russians and Ukrainians live in Türkiye now. In some areas they outnumber Turkish people. Especially the rich Russians came here and live a comfortable life. When I talk to my friends in Russia, they say that life there isn't too bad either. The public wasn't affected much by the sanctions. Politically there isn't much difference either. Just as Russia has been governed for years, so is Türkiye, by the same one man. Only those who come here from a democratic country can understand the negative effects of this. For the Russians this isn't a problem.
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White Russian
April 12, 2023, 04:20:31 PM
#20
Do you know if people outside are less open to doing business with you? I know I worked with several freelancers before who had to close their accounts on several platforms. Crypto-accepting people are probably less affected, they still have the means to transact, but I'm understanding from anecdotal evidence that clients are less willing to work with them (without actually saying it's because they're Russian).

If there is an effect, there is an impact on revenue coming from outside.
A familiar lady made beautiful handmade dolls, which were willingly bought by collectors from France, it seems that now she has stopped doing this. Now she is engaged in interior design, she is doing well.

Several familiar programmers working remotely for Western companies were forced to relocate with their families after the start of a special operation in Ukraine - to Georgia, Turkey, Italy and Canada. Hope they are doing well too.

Freelancers and small businesses, of course, were hit harder than others by the sanctions, just as a year earlier they also suffered from the lockdown and the pandemic. I think this is normal, even without sanctions and a pandemic, they usually suffer the most, this is the way.

How do you feel about recruiters walking around town handing out conscription notes? Not long ago there was an article that they're planning to send summons through email and mobile phones and if you ignore them you'll get your driving license suspended and won't be able to get a loan.
On one hand Russians are doing fine because they're alive, have a place to live, food in stores, Internet, but on the other a lot of products disappeared from stores, they don't have enough paper to print labels and car parts for EU and US made cars. Russians seem to be fine because they used to drive Ladas and will probably drive them 10 years from now, but all is not as good as they're painting it.
1. I don't care, I haven't seen any of them. I heard something similar happened last fall in big cities, in my city there was nothing like that. Summons to the military commissariat were mainly sent through the personnel departments of large enterprises.
2. Nothing is missing, there is no shortage of goods in any direction. It’s just that some goods have become more expensive and you have to wait a bit, but in general, the system of parallel imports works well, through Turkey or the UAE.
legendary
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April 12, 2023, 03:34:53 PM
#19
No war has ever left a country the same, or better than it meet it, except it's not a war.
And to consider the sanctions from various parts of the world, there is no way you tell me that Russia will remain the same, or better than it was before, I did some research before deciding to comment here, but I don't want to comment based on my research, as that would mean me giving statistics other users already gave here, I want my comment to be casual..

The war have affect Russia negatively on several parts, though it could be possible that some might not feel it, most especially those that are well to do, but that you do not feel something does not mean it's not there, in as much as employment seems not to be a problem, there are still those who have lost their jobs, lost loved ones, lost valuable assets and investment, lost business connections with foreign partners etc, for this kind of people, will you stand in front of them and tell them that Russia is still the same as it was before the war began? Of course not.
legendary
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April 12, 2023, 03:11:02 PM
#18
I live in Russia, in a province quite far from Moscow. I can't say that in economic terms nothing has changed over the year - some things got better, some things got worse. In general, people here live an ordinary normal life.

Probably the most significant change after the imposition of sanctions - we had to change the dry food for the cat. Previously, the cat ate Royal Canin food, at some point this food began to rise sharply in price and I had to switch to dry food from a local manufacturer, which is better in composition and cheaper in price. I myself also faced sanctions restrictions when I recently wanted to buy summer sneakers, it turned out that Adidas left Russia and I had to buy local brand sneakers. I can’t say that it upset me a lot, the cat doesn’t complain either.

How do you feel about recruiters walking around town handing out conscription notes? Not long ago there was an article that they're planning to send summons through email and mobile phones and if you ignore them you'll get your driving license suspended and won't be able to get a loan.
On one hand Russians are doing fine because they're alive, have a place to live, food in stores, Internet, but on the other a lot of products disappeared from stores, they don't have enough paper to print labels and car parts for EU and US made cars. Russians seem to be fine because they used to drive Ladas and will probably drive them 10 years from now, but all is not as good as they're painting it.
legendary
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April 12, 2023, 02:39:32 PM
#17
In Russia, there is another trend - the introduction of a digital ruble (CBDC). 

The project was planned to be launched from April 1, 2023, but serious technical difficulties arose during its implementation.  However, I do not rule out that all these technical problems will eventually be resolved. 

Firstly, in the Russian Federation, the prime minister is the former head of the tax service, Mishustin.  Mishustin is a very systematic person who managed to organize electronic digital document management in the field of taxes and fees.  From a technical point of view, the tax system in Russia functions perfectly. 

Secondly, specialists from China can be involved in the creation of the digital ruble. 

If a digital ruble is created in Russia, it will make it possible to force people to do the “right” actions, under the threat of a complete ban on the use of their money.  Blacklisted people will not be able to buy the goods, works and services they need. 

At present, this looks like a utopia, but in the future it is possible (and not only in Russia).


When many began to "clap their hands" about "the CBDC will come, the dollar will die" and "cryptocurrency wins", I warned - CBDC is an instrument of POWER and TOTAL control. The very concept of CBDC is to
1. Minimize, or reduce to 0, any uncontrolled movement of funds from the population
2. implement mechanisms for full CONTROL of funds.
What is this about?
1. Any transaction in the CBDC network will be controlled, and the entire history of your transactions can be easily traced. Moreover, in such a network it is extremely easy to identify LINKS between "financial partners".
2. Any of your cents will be blocked as soon as you become a "suspicious person". It's just an account and there is money on it, but you can't pay anything with it. People will no longer own their money.

But someone sees a fabulous dream "there will be no hegemony of the dollar", not realizing that when such a solution is launched in the country where the "rejoicing" person lives, he will not have any money at some point Smiley

And for Russia - yes, it is also the raising of the "financial iron curtain" from within the country, so that no one can withdraw a penny anywhere, bypassing state control. And fleeing a country without money is still a "pleasure"

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April 12, 2023, 01:17:18 PM
#16
I live in Russia, in a province quite far from Moscow. I can't say that in economic terms nothing has changed over the year - some things got better, some things got worse. In general, people here live an ordinary normal life.

Probably the most significant change after the imposition of sanctions - we had to change the dry food for the cat. Previously, the cat ate Royal Canin food, at some point this food began to rise sharply in price and I had to switch to dry food from a local manufacturer, which is better in composition and cheaper in price. I myself also faced sanctions restrictions when I recently wanted to buy summer sneakers, it turned out that Adidas left Russia and I had to buy local brand sneakers. I can’t say that it upset me a lot, the cat doesn’t complain either.

Do you know if people outside are less open to doing business with you? I know I worked with several freelancers before who had to close their accounts on several platforms. Crypto-accepting people are probably less affected, they still have the means to transact, but I'm understanding from anecdotal evidence that clients are less willing to work with them (without actually saying it's because they're Russian).

If there is an effect, there is an impact on revenue coming from outside.

That's what they expect like Russia's economy will crumble and Russians to experience hardships after sanctions. They are happy to see people go hungry like in other countries that were sanctioned before.

But there must be an effect to the sanctions which is most likely the prices of necessities as well except maybe the gas. And you can consider it an effect also that Putin is more determined to take a chunk of Ukraine.
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