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August 05, 2020, 09:18:35 AM
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Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

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yes, it is quite terrible if you see from the video circulating, that the explosion has sent a hard shock a few km from the initial explosion point. Of course I just saw that there was a terrible explosion like that, sending a powerful blow that could throw anything away from the explosion.

although there may be news about conspiracies and so on, the most important thing now is recovery, so that soon there will be calm in the community. condolences for families who may have a direct impact, hopefully they can be given strength to face this.
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August 05, 2020, 07:33:46 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave

Did you even listen to the story Goober?  They used what high explosive they had (looks like RDX and PETN) to scatter the ammonium nitrate.  What minor surface level shock wave there was was almost certainly a result of the high explosive.  Ammonium nitrate is used as a heaving charge.  We used to blast holes with a high explosive shaped charge then drop ammonium nitrate in to make craters.  (The poor Brits used to use an auger.  I would have loved to have watched them try to get a 12' deep hole in the Texas desert soil using that method.)

The story about the Tim McVeigh and his van full of fertilizer is almost as ridiculous as the 911 fable.

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August 05, 2020, 07:00:19 AM
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yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

It does not require an insane amount. Ammonium nitrate is not a joke. Google it. The bomb that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols used in the Oklahoma City bombing was less then 7000 pounds (3300kg) yes to make it go boom in the most destructive way possible you need a specific way of doing it. Just for an explosion not at all that much precision needed. Mixed with just enough diesel or gas or some other liquids in a 40 pound (18kg) bag of it and you are going to have something that could take out an average home.
It's a shipping port. Would 20 shipping containers be a lot of fertilizer coming in for a country? Probably more, but lets go with 20 containers weighing in at 40,000 pounds (18,000kg) each. Add in anything else that may or may not be dangerous and yeah, big boom really quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave

20 shipping containers would cause a cascade of 20 separate explosions..
more likely that amount of stuff. but inside a building in a small area stored together not in separate containers
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August 05, 2020, 06:59:36 AM
#32
Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

Hey 2020, Do you got still things for us? Roll Eyes

A nuke would look much more like a mushroom, the explosion in Beirut was just a massive fireball. It looks like 2.750 tons of ammonium nitrate was behind the explosion. But no idea how such a quantity is stored close to living quarters. The shockwave was just massive. Especially that video from an unlucky fellow in the building right next to it. I really hope the death numbers doesn't keep rising. All the best for the people in Beirut.
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August 05, 2020, 06:49:04 AM
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yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

It does not require an insane amount. Ammonium nitrate is not a joke. Google it. The bomb that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols used in the Oklahoma City bombing was less then 7000 pounds (3300kg) yes to make it go boom in the most destructive way possible you need a specific way of doing it. Just for an explosion not at all that much precision needed. Mixed with just enough diesel or gas or some other liquids in a 40 pound (18kg) bag of it and you are going to have something that could take out an average home.
It's a shipping port. Would 20 shipping containers be a lot of fertilizer coming in for a country? Probably more, but lets go with 20 containers weighing in at 40,000 pounds (18,000kg) each. Add in anything else that may or may not be dangerous and yeah, big boom really quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJEnfzlR1HY for a video showing 2000lb (900kg) and a bit of diesel.

-Dave
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August 05, 2020, 05:41:33 AM
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yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.

firstly the port is not directly at the capital city.. the city is a few miles away.
secondly it doesnt look like its a nuclear 'yield' but also not a single missile 'yield'

the port could have been storing many things
so if you think the only thing stored at the port is baked beans.. then im not buying your opinion
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August 05, 2020, 05:39:30 AM
#29
does not look like a missile strike to me
looks like an explosion from within.
either somebody set a bomb inside or because there is a military base there. the explosives stored there went off. accidently or on purpose.

but eitherway the size of the explosion was huge. way bigger than standard single missile strikes would cause
and lacks the evidence of an incoming missile. so seems like it was a explosion from within

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August 05, 2020, 04:16:05 AM
#28
Yesterday night, I saw that news on BBC and the explosion looks like a nuclear one the big cloud like things formed after that blast but not sure what is is going to be.And also people away from 240 KM felt that explosion as they reported.

Hey 2020, Do you got still things for us? Roll Eyes
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August 05, 2020, 12:09:32 AM
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yeah I mean theres no way I'm buying the "o they just happened to be storing an insane amount of ammonium nitrate" in a capital city port and trump always says the quiet part out loud.
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August 05, 2020, 12:05:34 AM
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Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?


Is everything suppose to be some alleged conspiracy purported by the U.S.? As if something like this couldn't happen in a country where regulations are nonexistent where they don't take any sort of safety measures regarding explosive materials?


Pffft.  Israel illegally bombs half of it's neighbors (chiefly Syria and Lebanon) nearly every day, but we are not supposed to suspect that this explosion might be yet another military operation?  Why is that???  Oh ya, 6-million Jews and what they market as 'the holocaust'.  How could I have forgotten?

You would also expect us to believe that a city like Beirut which is frequently targeted for attacks would have a port building (a skyscraper by looks of the vid I saw) packed with 200 tons of fertilizer for 6 years?  How absolutely fucking stupid and brainwashed does a person need to be to buy any of this cover story?

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Add to the list of suspected technologies above, 'dew'.  Directed Energy Weapons.  Here again, I've been more focused on research into biologicals and am not up on the latest theories about the capability of these, but it is pretty clear that if there were possibilities along these lines they would have been under heavy research and development.

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August 04, 2020, 11:42:36 PM
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Saw it on twitter it's very scary. I hope everyone is safe out there.
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August 04, 2020, 11:39:54 PM
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https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?




Is everything suppose to be some alleged conspiracy purported by the U.S.? As if something like this couldn't happen in a country where regulations are nonexistent where they don't take any sort of safety measures regarding explosive materials?

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August 04, 2020, 10:02:12 PM
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"Trump says top U.S. generals believe explosion in Beirut was an “attack”"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3oLZryzuo

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital

That does make sense, I didn't think ammonium nitrate was flammable (I think it's used in firelighters and explosives to help contain and fuel a fire)... That website says it takes certain conditions in order to get an explosion to happen but at least it's not nuclear I guess...
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August 04, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
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https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.

Lol!  The 'sodium nitrate storer' cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Seems reminiscent of some of the tests I've seen footage of out of Yemen.  I never followed up on efforts to discover the nature of the energy source.  I would expect more sonic booms and aerial artifacts if it were kinetic 'Rods from God' type technology.  I think some of the thermobaric technologies have been used enough over the past few decades to be somewhat understood, but I've not researched things enough to know them.

The U.S. has been making noise for some time about 'deploy-able nukes', and under GW Bush our defense posture was changed so as to justify the use of tactical nuclear weapons for the purpose of demonstrating that we would use tactical nuclear weapons.  I've always been suspicious that the underlying goal of U.S.'s belligerence is to make justifiable to the rest of the world a first-strike on that nation which utterly destroys it in an instant.  In the bible it says that when this happens the world will cry, but only because they will lose money having become addicted to sending goods our way in exchange for money.

I do kind of figure that 70 years of development post-Hiroshima would have resulted in vastly improved technology and methods based roughly on quantum physics.  Particularly as anti-matter is in fairly wide-spread use by this time.  Whenever I see one of these things I wonder if that could be the visual impact of such weaponry?

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August 04, 2020, 07:29:21 PM
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NO, Beirut did not just get nuked.

Nothing about those videos indicates that, and several things indicate it was not.

But that was one big explosion, no question.

Right! Nothing like the failed Oklahoma bombing inside job.     Cool
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August 04, 2020, 07:09:01 PM
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"Trump says top U.S. generals believe explosion in Beirut was an “attack”"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3oLZryzuo
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August 04, 2020, 06:21:55 PM
#19

NO, Beirut did not just get nuked.

Nothing about those videos indicates that, and several things indicate it was not.

But that was one big explosion, no question.
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August 04, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
#18
https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1290696406815080450

Allegedly caused by some sort of explosive material including sodium nitrate. Some estimates are 50 people dead with 2k+ injured, but it'll be a while until we get a full casualty report.

sodium nitrate is a ingredient for bombs. theres gotta be more deaths with that kind of explosion, its yet not reported. when glass windows shatters and people are inside the building, its definitely not good. in the video, it looks like there are fireworks first before the big explosion. isn't there US forces still around that area?  

look at the building here in this report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1EpNVLCpo  it says there are series of explosions.


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August 04, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
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It's most likely an explosion caused a chemical like ammonium nitrate probably stored in one of the warehouse in Large Quantities.
According to reports, the building was a storage facility for chemicals, so this was most likely the case.
The fact that such a facility could exist at a highly populated location in the capital city of Lebanon should raise concern and stimulate stricter rules and regulations on the handling of hazardous substances.
Ammonium nitrate was used in making explosives as far back as the first world war, before it was recognized as a fertilizer product and its use and storage should be more regulated than it is now, to prevent future occurrences like this.
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August 04, 2020, 05:53:07 PM
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not a nuke but possibly some sort of conventional or dirty bomb.  a nuke would come with a bright flash and high temperature blast. this had a huge pressure blast though so thats why people mistakenly think its nuclear.
Most of peoples feeling its nothing terrorist atttack or related bomb or weapons its just chemical related explosioun but still very painful as hundreds are already died and thousands in hostpitals.
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