A future to believe in...?
Who Is that masked man? why is he hiding?
It sure is a man, no woman is built like that.
It's the hunchback of no dame.
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Who Is that masked man? why is he hiding?
It sure is a man, no woman is built like that.
It's the hunchback of no dame.
A future to believe in...?
Who Is that masked man? why is he hiding?
It sure is a man, no woman is built like that.
A future to believe in...?
Because Yale and Harvard are free public universities
Not a one.
Okay, folks, what's the over under on the number of oh-so-ethical Nordic-model-country bigwigs that are going to be outed by the Panama Papers?
"Luxury dachas? In socialism? Those terms contradict! Your Don't know anything about socialism! You're uneducated!"
Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeee...
"Luxury dachas? In socialism? Those terms contradict! Your Don't know anything about socialism! You're uneducated!"
Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeee...
Bernie voters protesting on a Subway train.
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Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
You might want to do some reading on Stalin's manipulation of the Ukrain famine, and reconsider this.
I'm basically aware of the loss of life engineered by Stalin. Lots of people, Communist and otherwise have engaged in population engineering to the detriment of civilians. These tend to be relatively short-lived events. Not relevant and not particularly counter to my point even if it was.
My interest in the politics of shortage was spurred in discussions with a Russian speaking Ukrainian friend of mine. He says that the lines to obtain food in the former Soviet Union were often not necessary but that it created a means of social conditioning which were useful to those who managed the collective.
Housing was similar. One way for a young couple to get a flat was 'inform' on someone else. If the victim lost their flat then the informer may get it. I know from my standpoint where eco-sleazeballs can anonymously call about things when are non-problems and have the state bureaucrats show up and cause a lot of hassles that this snitch culture creates a lot of fractures in a community. That is probably one reason why this construct is often used in socialist and communist societies (as well as capitalist ones like our McCarthy era red bating to be fair.)
At the end of the day, there are few attempts at socialism or communism which ended up being even tolerable for those who have little desire for liberty, and more often than not they seem to fall into a hell-on-earth bottomless pit which spares only a handful of the leaders. It's relatively easy to see why and how this happens and hard to see any construct which could avoid it.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
You might want to do some reading on Stalin's manipulation of the Ukrain famine, and reconsider this.
I'm basically aware of the loss of life engineered by Stalin. Lots of people, Communist and otherwise have engaged in population engineering to the detriment of civilians. These tend to be relatively short-lived events. Not relevant and not particularly counter to my point even if it was.
My interest in the politics of shortage was spurred in discussions with a Russian speaking Ukrainian friend of mine. He says that the lines to obtain food in the former Soviet Union were often not necessary but that it created a means of social conditioning which were useful to those who managed the collective.
Housing was similar. One way for a young couple to get a flat was 'inform' on someone else. If the victim lost their flat then the informer may get it. I know from my standpoint where eco-sleazeballs can anonymously call about things when are non-problems and have the state bureaucrats show up and cause a lot of hassles that this snitch culture creates a lot of fractures in a community. That is probably one reason why this construct is often used in socialist and communist societies (as well as capitalist ones like our McCarthy era red bating to be fair.)
At the end of the day, there are few attempts at socialism or communism which ended up being even tolerable for those who have little desire for liberty, and more often than not they seem to fall into a hell-on-earth bottomless pit which spares only a handful of the leaders. It's relatively easy to see why and how this happens and hard to see any construct which could avoid it.
Bernie: "People standing in lines for government food rations is a good thing."
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Not just weird.
I'll defend the guy a bit only because I was/am pissed about Trump's abortion stuff being taken out of context.
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
Stalin Mass Murder Documentary Ukraine 1933 Exterminations
Bernie: "People standing in lines for government food rations is a good thing."
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Not just weird.
I'll defend the guy a bit only because I was/am pissed about Trump's abortion stuff being taken out of context.
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
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Condescending berniebot, or worse..
Bernie: ‘My Wife Does Our Tax Returns,’ That’s Why They Haven’t Been Released [VIDEO]
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/03/bernie-my-wife-does-our-tax-returns-thats-why-they-havent-been-released-video/
"Clinton delegates feel the Bern — hey, 'b---h,' switch your vote"
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-delegates-feel-the-bern-hey-b-h-switch-your-vote/article/2587489
EDIT: To give the Sanders campaign their due, they've taken a step or two over and above the ritual disavowal. "In an effort to calm down supporters, the Sanders campaign removed a portal from their website that allows supporters to connect with superdelegates. Instead they are encouraging Sanders fans to work on competing for pledged delegates and zero in on the remaining states."
Quote from: Ariel Cohen
Superdelegates supporting Hilary Clinton are getting angry, abusive phone calls and emails from Bernie Sanders' backers demanding they switch sides.
The pressure is intense, say Clinton superdelgates from states won by Sanders. Superdelegates are not "pledged" to the state victor and can vote whichever way they want.
That's leading to a torrent of unpleasantness.
Maine Democratic National Committee member Maggie Allen began screening her calls after the state's March 5 caucuses.
"It got really bad," Allen, a Clinton supporter, told the Washington Examiner. "I got drunken calls saying I was a bitch. I was basically being called an elitist, unfair, an undemocratic person."
She receives 25 calls or more emails or voice messages like this a day.
As an unpledged delegate, Allen is one of the hundreds of wildcard votes that could decide who gets the Democratic nomination. She supports Clinton, but her state went for Sanders by nearly 30 points. And the Vermont socialist senator's backers are unhappy with Allen's choice of Clinton....
The pressure is intense, say Clinton superdelgates from states won by Sanders. Superdelegates are not "pledged" to the state victor and can vote whichever way they want.
That's leading to a torrent of unpleasantness.
Maine Democratic National Committee member Maggie Allen began screening her calls after the state's March 5 caucuses.
"It got really bad," Allen, a Clinton supporter, told the Washington Examiner. "I got drunken calls saying I was a bitch. I was basically being called an elitist, unfair, an undemocratic person."
She receives 25 calls or more emails or voice messages like this a day.
As an unpledged delegate, Allen is one of the hundreds of wildcard votes that could decide who gets the Democratic nomination. She supports Clinton, but her state went for Sanders by nearly 30 points. And the Vermont socialist senator's backers are unhappy with Allen's choice of Clinton....
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-delegates-feel-the-bern-hey-b-h-switch-your-vote/article/2587489
EDIT: To give the Sanders campaign their due, they've taken a step or two over and above the ritual disavowal. "In an effort to calm down supporters, the Sanders campaign removed a portal from their website that allows supporters to connect with superdelegates. Instead they are encouraging Sanders fans to work on competing for pledged delegates and zero in on the remaining states."
Why is this abuse not a scandal on national TV? Berniebots are always given a pass.
"Clinton delegates feel the Bern — hey, 'b---h,' switch your vote"
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-delegates-feel-the-bern-hey-b-h-switch-your-vote/article/2587489
EDIT: To give the Sanders campaign their due, they've taken a step or two over and above the ritual disavowal. "In an effort to calm down supporters, the Sanders campaign removed a portal from their website that allows supporters to connect with superdelegates. Instead they are encouraging Sanders fans to work on competing for pledged delegates and zero in on the remaining states."
Quote from: Ariel Cohen
Superdelegates supporting Hilary Clinton are getting angry, abusive phone calls and emails from Bernie Sanders' backers demanding they switch sides.
The pressure is intense, say Clinton superdelgates from states won by Sanders. Superdelegates are not "pledged" to the state victor and can vote whichever way they want.
That's leading to a torrent of unpleasantness.
Maine Democratic National Committee member Maggie Allen began screening her calls after the state's March 5 caucuses.
"It got really bad," Allen, a Clinton supporter, told the Washington Examiner. "I got drunken calls saying I was a bitch. I was basically being called an elitist, unfair, an undemocratic person."
She receives 25 calls or more emails or voice messages like this a day.
As an unpledged delegate, Allen is one of the hundreds of wildcard votes that could decide who gets the Democratic nomination. She supports Clinton, but her state went for Sanders by nearly 30 points. And the Vermont socialist senator's backers are unhappy with Allen's choice of Clinton....
The pressure is intense, say Clinton superdelgates from states won by Sanders. Superdelegates are not "pledged" to the state victor and can vote whichever way they want.
That's leading to a torrent of unpleasantness.
Maine Democratic National Committee member Maggie Allen began screening her calls after the state's March 5 caucuses.
"It got really bad," Allen, a Clinton supporter, told the Washington Examiner. "I got drunken calls saying I was a bitch. I was basically being called an elitist, unfair, an undemocratic person."
She receives 25 calls or more emails or voice messages like this a day.
As an unpledged delegate, Allen is one of the hundreds of wildcard votes that could decide who gets the Democratic nomination. She supports Clinton, but her state went for Sanders by nearly 30 points. And the Vermont socialist senator's backers are unhappy with Allen's choice of Clinton....
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-delegates-feel-the-bern-hey-b-h-switch-your-vote/article/2587489
EDIT: To give the Sanders campaign their due, they've taken a step or two over and above the ritual disavowal. "In an effort to calm down supporters, the Sanders campaign removed a portal from their website that allows supporters to connect with superdelegates. Instead they are encouraging Sanders fans to work on competing for pledged delegates and zero in on the remaining states."
I'll defend the guy a bit only because I was/am pissed about Trump's abortion stuff being taken out of context.
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
If you have a link of the full interview I want to hear him talk about this, the crisis specifically.
In the US/europe if you are rich and you have a heart you can give and pay for food directly, give to the church, let them organized, have government help, start an online movement, individual participation, or all of the above.
In a centralized system, if the food department has a bug in its logistic, everything stops. Millions die.
That is why Bitcoin refuses to be centralized.
Yes the abortion loop with TRUMP is stupid but they need to stop him so they can push their own puppet. Too much to lose for them.
Scratch a socialist, sniff a rationeer. For all y'all's information, the only non-academic job that John Kenneth Galbraith had - before he got the plum position of Ambassador to India courtesy of the Kennedy Administration - was World War II price controller. Yep, Prof. Galbraith's only non-professorin' job pre-1961 was price controller for the wartime OPA.
Here's another fun fact 'bout democratic socialism. After WW2 ended, the UK electorate saw fit to send Sir Winston Churchill packing and moving to the Opposition benches. Thus began the golden age of U.K. "civilized" socialism. Until the 1970s, the U.K.'s "democratic socialism" was vaunted in the same way that the "Nordic Model" is vaunted today.
Labour had taken over, and they were busy bees indeed. Several big industries, such as electricity, steel and coal, were nationalized. The government-owned National Health Service was enacted and set up. Yes, until they themselves were sent to opposition in 1951, the Labourites were hard-workin' in government.
And what did these hard workers not do? Surprise, surprise: they did not get rid of the wartime price controls and rationing system, even though World War 2 was clearly over. Even the Japanese stuck in certain far-off islands had figured out that the war was over, but the Labourites rationeered as if the war was still on.
Scratch a socialist, sniff a rationeer.
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