Topic: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF - page 11. (Read 41823 times)
#SignsYoureABernieSupporter You would have killed the Super Collider and Space Station.
This must be during the Reagan administration when he talks about star wars.
Charity is incompatible with a centralized, controlled society. The politburo and its food department does not want competition.
Bernie: "People standing in lines for government food rations is a good thing."
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Not just weird.
I'll defend the guy a bit only because I was/am pissed about Trump's abortion stuff being taken out of context.
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
If you have a link of the full interview I want to hear him talk about this, the crisis specifically.
In the US/europe if you are rich and you have a heart you can give and pay for food directly, give to the church, let them organized, have government help, start an online movement, individual participation, or all of the above.
In a centralized system, if the food department has a bug in its logistic, everything stops. Millions die.
That is why Bitcoin refuses to be centralized.
Yes the abortion loop with TRUMP is stupid but they need to stop him so they can push their own puppet. Too much to lose for them.
Bernie: "People standing in lines for government food rations is a good thing."
[imhttps://i.sli.mg/0pdUOm.png[/img]
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Not just weird.
I'll defend the guy a bit only because I was/am pissed about Trump's abortion stuff being taken out of context.
It is a legitimate (not necessarily equal to 'correct') argument that it is better in times of famine for a government to have it together enough to keep people alive. Even Bernie would probably prefer that people's nutritional needs are met adequately without such a construct.
Perhaps not however. Austerity seems to be a common feature of collectivist societies. The benefits are that the population develops a reliance on the collective, and more specifically on the organizers of the collective which helps the organizers control them. In a corporate owned collective, which is the path the world is on at the moment, the owners of the means of production can extract more reward for less product. What's not to love if you have a lock on the product being rationed (fossil fuel reserves are a prime example.)
The birds have spoken
Bernie: "People standing in lines for government food rations is a good thing."
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Not just weird.
"a clear & present danger", "lots of pretty shaken up folk": one piece of purple chalk on the floor
#thechalkening
Funny how the guy you claim is a "cuck"(sp) and a berniebot... is actually a Trump supporter...
Standing next to mohawk man with the fabulous self-made Trump shirt...
HAHAHAHA... he took a black marker and wrote "Trump is the best(?)" on his shirt!
I can clearly read it now...
What are they chanting? "Feel the best(?)! Feel the best(?)! Feel the best(?)!"
You are funny
Funny how the guy you claim is a "cuck"(sp) and a berniebot... is actually a Trump supporter...
Standing next to mohawk man with the fabulous self-made Trump shirt...
HAHAHAHA... he took a black marker and wrote "Trump is the best(?)" on his shirt!
*NSFW* #NeverTrump Activists Shout Racial & Homophobic Slurs at Black Vendor
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture
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(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture
)Hope better ways to distribute resources will exist before we go for the galaxy. For now, why socialism or capitalism only? Why not a mix of both? Not the mix we live in in most of europe, america, south america, etc. But for example using codetermination like in Germany. Then expanding from there. Not necessarily replacing capitalism.
Capitalism is about the maximizing the stuff you have, replacing it with better, smaller, cheaper, faster stuff. By the time we'll be ready to hope from solar systems to solar systems, the cost per human will be as much as a round trip ticket on a greyhound bus.
By that time capitalism may not even be called capitalism anymore. But socialism is not compatible with star trekking because of its lack of vision in the future.
Not a fan of startrek tng then? They were all socialists there you know? But I don't know that socialism is incompatible with having more, better, cheaper, faster stuff. It isn't the priority though. Unless the people in the society want it to be. Not likely. But there is nothing stopping that from happening if mentalities change. That compared to capitalism where decisions are made by the few who own stuff.
A lot of sci-fi authors are socialists.
Big fan of TNG but, again, this works because everything happens inside a tribe shaped as a starship. Everything needed can be replicated at will. Almost infinite magic energy. Money is banned. Wars gone. The only fat people are crazy looking aliens. The only goal is to explore forever with a crew and a mission and no family, or very little.
No room for the dreamers, or just a few. No room for a king or a prince. We have a captain, a supreme leader... Etc, etc...
Yep. TNG is the perfect definition of socialism in space.
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture)
(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture
)Hope better ways to distribute resources will exist before we go for the galaxy. For now, why socialism or capitalism only? Why not a mix of both? Not the mix we live in in most of europe, america, south america, etc. But for example using codetermination like in Germany. Then expanding from there. Not necessarily replacing capitalism.
Capitalism is about the maximizing the stuff you have, replacing it with better, smaller, cheaper, faster stuff. By the time we'll be ready to hope from solar systems to solar systems, the cost per human will be as much as a round trip ticket on a greyhound bus.
By that time capitalism may not even be called capitalism anymore. But socialism is not compatible with star trekking because of its lack of vision in the future.
Not a fan of startrek tng then? They were all socialists there you know? Except the ferengi. But I don't know that socialism is incompatible with having more, better, cheaper, faster stuff. It isn't the priority though. Unless the people in the society want it to be. Not likely. But there is nothing stopping that from happening if mentalities change. That compared to capitalism where decisions are made by the few who own stuff.
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
Shrewd! Add to that the fact that our wetware seems equipped to deal with ~150 people as unique individuals - ~150 and no more - and also add the fact that we subconsciously use those ~150 as allegories for the billions of people we can't possibly get to know, and you've got the basic recipe for a lot of feel-good 'ideals'. Especially amongst folks who grew up in tight-knit families or neighbourhoods. Or for that matter, have had sheltered lives.
Maybe you've just cracked the code for the law of diminishing returns for socialism: 150 humans.
So capitalism builds the starship. The centralized computer in it will be in charge of all the multiple groups of mega pods with 150 humans in them...
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
Shrewd! Add to that the fact that our wetware seems equipped to deal with ~150 people as unique individuals - ~150 and no more - and also add the fact that we subconsciously use those ~150 as allegories for the billions of people we can't possibly get to know, and you've got the basic recipe for a lot of feel-good 'ideals'. Especially amongst folks who grew up in tight-knit families or neighbourhoods. Or for that matter, have had sheltered lives.
Maybe you've just cracked the code for the law of diminishing returns for socialism: 150 humans.
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture)
(make sure to quote me if you intend to use this description in one of your lecture
)Hope better ways to distribute resources will exist before we go for the galaxy. For now, why socialism or capitalism only? Why not a mix of both? Not the mix we live in in most of europe, america, south america, etc. But for example using codetermination like in Germany. Then expanding from there. Not necessarily replacing capitalism.
Capitalism is about the maximizing the stuff you have, replacing it with better, smaller, cheaper, faster stuff. By the time we'll be ready to hope from solar systems to solar systems, the cost per human will be as much as a round trip ticket on a greyhound bus.
By that time capitalism may not even be called capitalism anymore. But socialism is not compatible with star trekking because of its lack of vision in the future.
On a scale of a tribe or a family communism is more practical, in theory. Once you reach a certain amount of humans, socialism and communism implode like a dying star and capitalism makes much more sense on a country, continent, planet or galactic scale.
Shrewd! Add to that the fact that our wetware seems equipped to deal with ~150 people as unique individuals - ~150 and no more - and also add the fact that we subconsciously use those ~150 as allegories for the billions of people we can't possibly get to know, and you've got the basic recipe for a lot of feel-good 'ideals'. Especially amongst folks who grew up in tight-knit families or neighbourhoods. Or for that matter, have had sheltered lives.
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