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newbie
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August 26, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
#27
I earn just under 100 USD per day through cloud mining, and although there are pros and cons to it and good and bad companies if you choose well, it can be a good investment.

I feel safer with a cloud mining company with physical infrastructure and a public team behind them than I do with a make xxx dollars per day website ponzie scheme.

Either way, like anything, never invest what you cannot afford to lose, but for me, it is very profitable atm, especially since the price of BTC went up and the difficulty went down.

Happy days.   Cheesy
These words don't hold much value until you share details about what exactly you're mining, how much you have invested, and most importantly, when did you invest money into cloudmining.

People quite often think that the payouts they generate are earnings, but this simply isn't true ~ the mining service is just paying you your money slowly back, that's pretty much it.

Earning happens when you have made your initial capital back, where from that point everything you make can legitimately be considered earnings. As long as it isn't profit, there is no such a thing as earning.
I see your point and agree for the most part, but those words hold no value but the BTC I am receiving everyday certainly is of value.

Your comment about seeing the payouts as earnings is dependent on how you look at it.  

If you purchased say 10k worth of XXX coin and it dropped in value by 30 or 40 percent, would you sell it and take the loss or hodl it and hope it climbs up again?  

With mining you could use the same analogy except that the 10k  you invested, you know is coming back, all be it in fractions but you have a steady income from it, whereas if you are sitting on 10k worth of coins that may drop even further which position would you rather be in?

So my point is, as I stated in my earlier post, any investment involves risk, to me I would rather see my risk mitigated by a slow but constant return on my initial investment and if and when it reaches the break even point, as you said then you are making profit.

But the guy who is sitting on his 10k of shit coins is either still sweating it or stagnating where he is, of course he may double his money too but that is also a risk.

So if you went out and bought 3 BTC today, when would you expect see a "profit" from that purchase,  when it increases by say 3% you have made some money but that's it, you either sell and take the profit or your HODL and ride the waves, unless you are a trader which I am not. So that 3 BTC will sit and just climb in value as the coin does, some people are happy doing that and good luck to them I say.  

With BTC mining you get paid back in BTC so as the price increases so does your pay out, yes there is the difficulty factor but you are still getting that steady income and at the same time able to HODL what you are earning back, so in effect depending on the size of your contract and mining fees and difficulty I see it as a great way to make money.

The other thing to take into account is if you look at the Fiat cost of the mining purchase, that is also greatly depreciated by the increase in BTC price, so yes there is a waiting time until you "break even" but the longer your contract goes, it is likely the more the BTC price increases and therefore your ROI in Fiat value is coming back to you a lot faster than most would think.

For example on Genesis from memory 40TH was around $5,400 USD or somewhere near that, 2 months ago that would have been 2.1/2 something BTC to purchase, now it is 1.2/3 so in Fiat terms instead of needing to earn 2.1 BTC to break even for that 40 TH now I only need to earn 1.2/3 btc to break even, which means your ROI is coming back to you the more the price of BTC rises, essentially the quicker you have already seen a ROI.

That is my take on it anyway and it works for me.   Cheesy

P.S Not going to go into full personal details here about my contracts but I am happy with them and enjoying the returns.  


Though you also have to factor in the effects of price increase. The increase of price will lead to more miners trying to mine and that would mean the difficulty will also increase. Which also translate to lesser coin mined by your miners. Yeah maybe prices went up by 100%, your chances of getting coins is halved. Which means you still will be breaking even by the same time.
And then once you have "Broken even" who do you think is sitting in the better position, the person hodling btc who never took a risk and is just relying on price increase for profit or the person whose contract has paid for itself while they are still receiving an income stream in BTC as well as having already paid for their initial investment in Fiat value?
sr. member
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August 26, 2017, 03:14:08 PM
#26
At the moment I also see hashflare as best paying mining service. It was not always so, that ROI was at 6 months on SHA lifetime contract but it can change very fast. So its not recommended to put all investments into cloud mining.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 506
August 26, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
#25
I earn just under 100 USD per day through cloud mining, and although there are pros and cons to it and good and bad companies if you choose well, it can be a good investment.

I feel safer with a cloud mining company with physical infrastructure and a public team behind them than I do with a make xxx dollars per day website ponzie scheme.

Either way, like anything, never invest what you cannot afford to lose, but for me, it is very profitable atm, especially since the price of BTC went up and the difficulty went down.

Happy days.   Cheesy
These words don't hold much value until you share details about what exactly you're mining, how much you have invested, and most importantly, when did you invest money into cloudmining.

People quite often think that the payouts they generate are earnings, but this simply isn't true ~ the mining service is just paying you your money slowly back, that's pretty much it.

Earning happens when you have made your initial capital back, where from that point everything you make can legitimately be considered earnings. As long as it isn't profit, there is no such a thing as earning.
I see your point and agree for the most part, but those words hold no value but the BTC I am receiving everyday certainly is of value.

Your comment about seeing the payouts as earnings is dependent on how you look at it. 

If you purchased say 10k worth of XXX coin and it dropped in value by 30 or 40 percent, would you sell it and take the loss or hodl it and hope it climbs up again?   

With mining you could use the same analogy except that the 10k  you invested, you know is coming back, all be it in fractions but you have a steady income from it, whereas if you are sitting on 10k worth of coins that may drop even further which position would you rather be in?

So my point is, as I stated in my earlier post, any investment involves risk, to me I would rather see my risk mitigated by a slow but constant return on my initial investment and if and when it reaches the break even point, as you said then you are making profit.

But the guy who is sitting on his 10k of shit coins is either still sweating it or stagnating where he is, of course he may double his money too but that is also a risk.

So if you went out and bought 3 BTC today, when would you expect see a "profit" from that purchase,  when it increases by say 3% you have made some money but that's it, you either sell and take the profit or your HODL and ride the waves, unless you are a trader which I am not. So that 3 BTC will sit and just climb in value as the coin does, some people are happy doing that and good luck to them I say. 

With BTC mining you get paid back in BTC so as the price increases so does your pay out, yes there is the difficulty factor but you are still getting that steady income and at the same time able to HODL what you are earning back, so in effect depending on the size of your contract and mining fees and difficulty I see it as a great way to make money.

The other thing to take into account is if you look at the Fiat cost of the mining purchase, that is also greatly depreciated by the increase in BTC price, so yes there is a waiting time until you "break even" but the longer your contract goes, it is likely the more the BTC price increases and therefore your ROI in Fiat value is coming back to you a lot faster than most would think.

For example on Genesis from memory 40TH was around $5,400 USD or somewhere near that, 2 months ago that would have been 2.1/2 something BTC to purchase, now it is 1.2/3 so in Fiat terms instead of needing to earn 2.1 BTC to break even for that 40 TH now I only need to earn 1.2/3 btc to break even, which means your ROI is coming back to you the more the price of BTC rises, essentially the quicker you have already seen a ROI.

That is my take on it anyway and it works for me.   Cheesy

P.S Not going to go into full personal details here about my contracts but I am happy with them and enjoying the returns. 


Though you also have to factor in the effects of price increase. The increase of price will lead to more miners trying to mine and that would mean the difficulty will also increase. Which also translate to lesser coin mined by your miners. Yeah maybe prices went up by 100%, your chances of getting coins is halved. Which means you still will be breaking even by the same time.
newbie
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August 26, 2017, 11:58:10 AM
#24
I earn just under 100 USD per day through cloud mining, and although there are pros and cons to it and good and bad companies if you choose well, it can be a good investment.

I feel safer with a cloud mining company with physical infrastructure and a public team behind them than I do with a make xxx dollars per day website ponzie scheme.

Either way, like anything, never invest what you cannot afford to lose, but for me, it is very profitable atm, especially since the price of BTC went up and the difficulty went down.

Happy days.   Cheesy
These words don't hold much value until you share details about what exactly you're mining, how much you have invested, and most importantly, when did you invest money into cloudmining.

People quite often think that the payouts they generate are earnings, but this simply isn't true ~ the mining service is just paying you your money slowly back, that's pretty much it.

Earning happens when you have made your initial capital back, where from that point everything you make can legitimately be considered earnings. As long as it isn't profit, there is no such a thing as earning.
I see your point and agree for the most part, but those words hold no value but the BTC I am receiving everyday certainly is of value.

Your comment about seeing the payouts as earnings is dependent on how you look at it.  

If you purchased say 10k worth of XXX coin and it dropped in value by 30 or 40 percent, would you sell it and take the loss or hodl it and hope it climbs up again?  

With mining you could use the same analogy except that the 10k  you invested, you know is coming back, all be it in fractions but you have a steady income from it, whereas if you are sitting on 10k worth of coins that may drop even further which position would you rather be in?

So my point is, as I stated in my earlier post, any investment involves risk, to me I would rather see my risk mitigated by a slow but constant return on my initial investment and if and when it reaches the break even point, as you said then you are making profit.

But the guy who is sitting on his 10k of shit coins is either still sweating it or stagnating where he is, of course he may double his money too but that is also a risk.

So if you went out and bought 3 BTC today, when would you expect see a "profit" from that purchase,  when it increases by say 3% you have made some money but that's it, you either sell and take the profit or your HODL and ride the waves, unless you are a trader which I am not. So that 3 BTC will sit and just climb in value as the coin does, some people are happy doing that and good luck to them I say. 

With BTC mining you get paid back in BTC so as the price increases so does your pay out, yes there is the difficulty factor but you are still getting that steady income and at the same time able to HODL what you are earning back, so in effect depending on the size of your contract and mining fees and difficulty I see it as a great way to make money.

The other thing to take into account is if you look at the Fiat cost of the mining purchase, that is also greatly depreciated by the increase in BTC price, so yes there is a waiting time until you "break even" but the longer your contract goes, it is likely the more the BTC price increases and therefore your ROI in Fiat value is coming back to you a lot faster than most would think.

For example on Genesis from memory 40TH was around $5,400 USD or somewhere near that, 2 months ago that would have been 2.1/2 something BTC to purchase, now it is 1.2/3 so in Fiat terms instead of needing to earn 2.1 BTC to break even for that 40 TH now I only need to earn 1.2/3 btc to break even, which means your ROI is coming back to you the more the price of BTC rises, essentially the quicker you have already seen a ROI.

That is my take on it anyway and it works for me.   Cheesy

P.S Not going to go into full personal details here about my contracts but I am happy with them and enjoying the returns.  



legendary
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August 26, 2017, 10:36:43 AM
#23
From my experience, I can tell you that cloud mining is very seldom a winning game. Most likely it is almost zero sum investment.
If you buy coins for the money you would put into cloud mining into buying crypto and holding cryptocurrency you would most likely end up in the long run with more money.
And ultimately you wouldn't have to worry about any 3rd party being legit company, and cloud mining business had history of many failed/pure scam projects.
Same with your experience that up to now I also see that there is no credible mining company and also guarantee what we will get. What I feel is just a scare because the mining company can take all the bitcoin we've invested. So think further to decide how we will do the mining.
legendary
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August 26, 2017, 08:15:29 AM
#22
I earn just under 100 USD per day through cloud mining, and although there are pros and cons to it and good and bad companies if you choose well, it can be a good investment.

I feel safer with a cloud mining company with physical infrastructure and a public team behind them than I do with a make xxx dollars per day website ponzie scheme.

Either way, like anything, never invest what you cannot afford to lose, but for me, it is very profitable atm, especially since the price of BTC went up and the difficulty went down.

Happy days.   Cheesy
These words don't hold much value until you share details about what exactly you're mining, how much you have invested, and most importantly, when did you invest money into cloudmining.

People quite often think that the payouts they generate are earnings, but this simply isn't true ~ the mining service is just paying you your money slowly back, that's pretty much it.

Earning happens when you have made your initial capital back, where from that point everything you make can legitimately be considered earnings. As long as it isn't profit, there is no such a thing as earning.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
August 26, 2017, 07:58:24 AM
#21
I earn just under 100 USD per day through cloud mining, and although there are pros and cons to it and good and bad companies if you choose well, it can be a good investment.

I feel safer with a cloud mining company with physical infrastructure and a public team behind them than I do with a make xxx dollars per day website ponzie scheme.

Either way, like anything, never invest what you cannot afford to lose, but for me, it is very profitable atm, especially since the price of BTC went up and the difficulty went down.

Happy days.   Cheesy
legendary
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Merit: 1005
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August 26, 2017, 06:03:24 AM
#20
From my experience, I can tell you that cloud mining is very seldom a winning game. Most likely it is almost zero sum investment.
If you buy coins for the money you would put into cloud mining into buying crypto and holding cryptocurrency you would most likely end up in the long run with more money.
And ultimately you wouldn't have to worry about any 3rd party being legit company, and cloud mining business had history of many failed/pure scam projects.
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
August 26, 2017, 03:47:32 AM
#19
Cloud mining companies are usually always like a casino, the house always wins. If you do start making profits with them it is after a very long and risky period in which Bitcoin’s price probably went up and you could have made more money by just holding.
legendary
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August 25, 2017, 03:17:45 AM
#18
Hello Guys

I have a question
What is the best company to invest money for minning?

bitcoin.com
genesis-mining.com
or ...
Don't invest in any cloud mining or mining hardware. these cloud mining company will runway and mining with hardware require cheap electricity and you have to make sure the machines are running 24/7, could be a tough job. bitcoin will make you profit, just buy it and hold.
legendary
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August 25, 2017, 01:22:24 AM
#17
Cloud mining are not profitable if mining difficulty or price will change significantly in future so purchasing cloud mining packages is quite risky investment and not a risk free passive income source like most of the newbie think and those cloud mining company claims.

Genesis-mining is quite known in the industry, you can try them but I haven't invested in any cloud mining sites because I feel they are just lying everything. 
full member
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August 24, 2017, 11:22:57 PM
#16
Hello Guys

I have a question
What is the best company to invest money for minning?

bitcoin.com
genesis-mining.com
or ...
There is no best company to threw away your money. If you are talking about the digital mining company such as genesis mining and you may better to build your own rig. because to sign the contract with the cloudmining site is the worst way in this time you will never be profitable.
sr. member
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August 24, 2017, 10:36:22 PM
#15
Mining sites are like ponzi but there are few, rarest site who are still working in the market and paying out. I have three names on my mind that is 1) Genesis mining 2) Hashflare 3) Minergate. These are paying sites and the sites which I have tried myself. However it takes almost six to eight moneths to get ROI depending upon your investment. However be always cautious about the mining sites because they can turn into all time scam any time. I'm gonna pull out my investment soon because it is slow and I'm always in fear that they will turn scam. So better choose wisely.
hero member
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Merit: 1001
August 23, 2017, 06:28:25 PM
#14
I think hashflare better, it allows you to buy smaller amounts of hashrate and it also has an impressive list of coins being mined. Definitely a good place to start. They accept Bitcoin and Credit card payments to start.
Not a good idea to invest in hashflare much better if you really want to mine with your own better to buy a mining equipment and mine bitcoin with your own.. without the risk o bitmain.com i think is much more safe than you are just choosing hashflare because there is no guaranteed cloud mining site that can gives you profit..
Only buying bitmain miner S series can be i think that can gives you a real profit..
hero member
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August 23, 2017, 06:18:34 PM
#13
Please stop with those cloud mining sites. When I saw the thread I thought OP was asking about the company that mines the most coins (biggest hashing power) but obviously I was wrong and he wanted to know if scam cloud mining company A is better than a scam company B. Wink
legendary
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August 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
#12
ima still goging with genesis ming iam owning tehre many hash power on btc and bit on eth.....
iam from germany so its  amust to invest in german guys XD
also iam buying ever ymonth a bit more to help bitocin staing stable !
all in all i can recommand genesis mining its proofed since years now !

kind regards
hero member
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Merit: 505
August 22, 2017, 12:28:30 AM
#11
Just to be honest with everyone, cloud mining doesn't profit anymore. Do you guys think anyone in his right mind will rent out something that could profit a lot more than what he will get from renting it out? If it would generate more money if you kept the mined cryptocurrency would you rent out the rig? Ask that question before you buy or rent hashing power coz that is the case of most cloud mining.
hero member
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August 22, 2017, 12:19:59 AM
#10
I think hashflare better, it allows you to buy smaller amounts of hashrate and it also has an impressive list of coins being mined. Definitely a good place to start. They accept Bitcoin and Credit card payments to start.
hero member
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Merit: 500
August 21, 2017, 11:56:40 PM
#9
Buddy why are you going for cloud mining. If you have money just buy some coins and keep it in your wallet. That will be more profitable than investing money in cloud mining. I thing you need to understand is it's not possible to reach roi in bitcoin. But you will definitely reach roi in fiat currency. Still you want to invest money? Then I will suggest genesis mining. They are paying all their investors without fail.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
August 21, 2017, 10:24:03 PM
#8
Makes me wonder is it a coincidence that only a couple of hours after the price of XMR skyrocketed Genesis stopped adding new BTC mining contracts.

Did they pump a few million into XMR to boost their XMR mining contracts or just pure coincidence?
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