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Quote from: eance on July 31, 2021, 04:00:09 PM

well if CEFI isn't good enough for you guys, Try to explore DEFI. Nothing is perfect anyways...

whatever the name and form, as long as we have to entrust our funds to others, it means that we are risking its, and until now I never tried DeFi.

saving our funds on a staking platform to earn interest is very risky and the risk is even greater and the profit that may be obtained, it's better to keep it in own wallet and wait for the BTC price to rise, instead of wanting to make a profit but you lose.

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well if CEFI isn't good enough for you guys, Try to explore DEFI. Nothing is perfect anyways...

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I do not think you need to stake bitcoin because by holding your bitcoin, you will make a big profit in the future. Staking will be good for altcoin or tokens but I am not sure how long you can earn a decent amount that will give you profit if you sell the tokens. Maybe Binance is your solution as Binance has many altcoins or tokens to stake and you can select which you like.

But if you want to stake bitcoin, maybe you can try with freebitco.in as I know that site offers their members to stake their bitcoin. The reward will not be bigger as the bitcoin price increases now. I also stake some satoshi on that site but as I said before, the reward is small. But you can still play with their faucet but do not expect to get a big reward from the faucet.

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I don't know if any staking is worth it or maybe am the one with bad luck with staking, but personally i don't see staking as worth the while, at the end what you get is very little compare to what you would have gotten for doing occasional flipping of some certain coins, buy when they are in dip, sell when they are some percent up and repeat, take advantage of the market volatility,
i have not had good experience with staking so i would not even bother wasting my time and funds in that area again.

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Quote from: slaman29 on July 30, 2021, 01:54:10 AM

Saw your response late. I don't really see anything wrong with people legally taking advantage of loopholes. I mean, I know things like tax exemption which all the businesses do are morally wrong but this is the fault of the state who makes laws that benefit the rich, eventually if people fight hard enough the regulations can change about that.

I mostly hold the same opinions, but it's not just individuals that are taking advantage of loopholes though. We're talking about a centralized business entity that holds custody of thousands and thousands of users' funds.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 29, 2021, 05:31:18 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on July 29, 2021, 03:26:51 AM

I think Blockfi got some guys criticizing it because it didn't want to show proof of reserves, plus had no insurance (this was sometime last year though don't know if they got it today). It is the preferred platform of big media influencers though.

Nexo on the other hand seems to have Bitgo/Lloyds insurance, but I think it was really low like $100 million, which obviously seems to me that if it goes down, people only get back a fraction of their deposits:)

It's not just that though. They're being asked to offering interest-bearing accounts in New Jersey because if I understand correctly, they're taking advantage of some sort of loophole that they're able to take advantage of just because they're using cryptocurrencies(not fiat).

Saw your response late. I don't really see anything wrong with people legally taking advantage of loopholes. I mean, I know things like tax exemption which all the businesses do are morally wrong but this is the fault of the state who makes laws that benefit the rich, eventually if people fight hard enough the regulations can change about that.

Anyway, I am now picking up some time over next few weeks to see if I can dig up more about blockfi/nexo and others.

But for now, Bitcoin safe in my wallet.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 29, 2021, 03:50:14 AM

I've been keeping an eye on Nexo ever since this thread started, and I actually went ahead with Nexo (you might remember it, as you responded here).

Nexo still haven't won me over BUT they do seem the best of the worst (custodial being the bad thing here). They've increased their insurance, displayed all their licenses and apparently are working on a proof-of-reserves solution that any client can access in real time.

I will update the thread there shortly now that I'm reminded, there's been quite a bit going on with them since then to improve their offering (bigger insurance, more licenses, proof of reserves) Wink

Ah ha okey, thanks, I do remember this thread:) And yes even I looked into NEXO at the time but I also felt the insurance was much too low. Now the funny thing is they're operating in Europe and US and even in UK (which I mention because of the Brexit thing). But now that I checked your update and saw myself the list of licenses they put out, why aren't any in European Union? Isn't that illegal then?

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among these platforms i choose BlockFi but it seems it is not safe for your assets easy to lose and not very reliable, why don't you think to use that account to buy some BTC and then keep it for a long time, it's yours in your wallet and you decide to sell it at a high price.

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Quote from: ndalliard on July 29, 2021, 07:48:53 AM

if you really want to stake bitcoin (i strongly recommend against it) you should look at ledn.io. at least they don't have all the shitcoins (apart from USDC). fascinating they aren't even mentioned in this thread - why is that?

Simply because Ledn is a far smaller business compared to BlockFi and Celsius, hence a far smaller budget for advertising marketing. Heck, I probably wouldn't even hear about Ledn today if it weren't for a promotion on BTCSession's YouTube channel.

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All of these platforms have a hidden condition that you will bear the losses if the platform goes bankrupt or if there is damage that leads to many losses.
Therefore, I do not advise you to staking bitcoin as an idea. There are other more ways to ensure that you increase your bitcoin holdings such as trading.

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if you really want to stake bitcoin (i strongly recommend against it) you should look at ledn.io. at least they don't have all the shitcoins (apart from USDC). fascinating they aren't even mentioned in this thread - why is that?

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You can also look at P2P lending if you want something more decentralized, with more profit, but also has a higher risk. Well, it's your choice. In the end, those 'staking' platform also use lending to get the interest from users.

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I've taken a look at the rates of different platforms.

Nexo.io's rate is 6% APY if you'll choose the "earn in kind" payment while 8% if you'll choose to earn in nexo.
https://nexo.io/earn-crypto

Blockfi has 3 tiers, the higher the tier, the lower the rate. Let's assume you'll invest in the tier 1, 0 - 0.25 btc and that's 4%. The highest interest for all tiers.
https://blockfi.com/rates/

While for Abra, it's 3.6% APY.
https://www.abra.com/earn-interest-on-crypto/

For Celcius, 2 tiers too.
0-1 btc that makes 6.20% APY
1 btc and up makes 3.51% APY.
https://celsius.network/earn-rewards-on-your-crypto

Which do you think is reasonable to you? well, to me, I'll choose not any of those and would be happy to keep it on HODL.

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Quote from: slaman29 on July 29, 2021, 03:26:51 AM

I think Blockfi got some guys criticizing it because it didn't want to show proof of reserves, plus had no insurance (this was sometime last year though don't know if they got it today). It is the preferred platform of big media influencers though.

Nexo on the other hand seems to have Bitgo/Lloyds insurance, but I think it was really low like $100 million, which obviously seems to me that if it goes down, people only get back a fraction of their deposits:)

It's not just that though. They're being asked to offering interest-bearing accounts in New Jersey because if I understand correctly, they're taking advantage of some sort of loophole that they're able to take advantage of just because they're using cryptocurrencies(not fiat).

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Both Nexo and Celsius have very good basic APY, but I prefer Nexo atm because their rates are much more stable. But it should be noted that you need to put 10% of the portfolio value in $NEXO to get the highest annual interest rate.

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Quote from: brainactive on July 28, 2021, 11:38:47 PM

What is the best platform for staking Bitcoin?

You can learn to stake in Soyryn with the Rsk (RbtC) sidechain, they are a Rbtc-based lending, yield, borrowing protocol. I'm using them, it's in early stages, APY is good. In the next week they will have many improvements on liquid rewards for staking. It is quite attractive. Wink

Also it is a pure defi.

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Quote from: slaman29 on July 29, 2021, 03:26:51 AM

Quote from: mk4 on July 28, 2021, 11:50:03 PM

BlockFi seems to be the platform with more reputation. But since the recent news we're getting with back to back regulatory issues, I wouldn't recommend it or any staking platform in general (I wasn't really a fan of any of em in the first place).

Personally, I'm happy with just holding my bitcoin on my non-custodial wallet and simply just waiting for the price to appreciate.

I think Blockfi got some guys criticizing it because it didn't want to show proof of reserves, plus had no insurance (this was sometime last year though don't know if they got it today). It is the preferred platform of big media influencers though.

Nexo on the other hand seems to have Bitgo/Lloyds insurance, but I think it was really low like $100 million, which obviously seems to me that if it goes down, people only get back a fraction of their deposits:)

I've been keeping an eye on Nexo ever since this thread started, and I actually went ahead with Nexo (you might remember it, as you responded here).

Nexo still haven't won me over BUT they do seem the best of the worst (custodial being the bad thing here). They've increased their insurance, displayed all their licenses and apparently are working on a proof-of-reserves solution that any client can access in real time.

I will update the thread there shortly now that I'm reminded, there's been quite a bit going on with them since then to improve their offering (bigger insurance, more licenses, proof of reserves) Wink

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Quote from: mk4 on July 28, 2021, 11:50:03 PM

BlockFi seems to be the platform with more reputation. But since the recent news we're getting with back to back regulatory issues, I wouldn't recommend it or any staking platform in general (I wasn't really a fan of any of em in the first place).

Personally, I'm happy with just holding my bitcoin on my non-custodial wallet and simply just waiting for the price to appreciate.

I think Blockfi got some guys criticizing it because it didn't want to show proof of reserves, plus had no insurance (this was sometime last year though don't know if they got it today). It is the preferred platform of big media influencers though.

Nexo on the other hand seems to have Bitgo/Lloyds insurance, but I think it was really low like $100 million, which obviously seems to me that if it goes down, people only get back a fraction of their deposits:)

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Quote from: brainactive on July 28, 2021, 11:38:47 PM

What is the best platform for staking Bitcoin?

Why need staking? when holding bitcoin is already considerable as staking? though some of my friends are using blockfi but never that i dare to follow because i am contented in what i am doing and that is holding bitcoin for long time now.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 28, 2021, 11:50:03 PM

BlockFi seems to be the platform with more reputation. But since the recent news we're getting with back to back regulatory issues, I wouldn't recommend it or any staking platform in general (I wasn't really a fan of any of em in the first place).

Personally, I'm happy with just holding my bitcoin on my non-custodial wallet and simply just waiting for the price to appreciate.

The same with me. I understand that the whole cryptocurrency investment is a type of risk but I also like to minimize that risk to a very low level hence, I normally don't like to stake any of my crypto assets on any platform that isn't a non-custodial wallet as you mentioned because of the general saying, "Not your keys Not your Coins"

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