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January 03, 2019, 04:30:19 PM
#28

I am waiting for the country to go bankrupt, but I dunno how long it will take. What do you think is the best way to speed it up?
I believe many expert will use debt as a gauge to measure the apocalypse.
I think everyone taking a loan will contribute to the debt, but it doesn't make the country bankrupt, it's the people who take the loan will go bankrupt first. I don't think it is the best way to do, so what else can we do?

It is very easy! We all know that the American banking system is a virtual bubble based on empty zeros in the banking system. It would be enough, if about 10% -15% (maybe even only 5%) of people asked for the withdraw of deposits and banks become insolvent. Hasta la vista  Wink Grin
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January 03, 2019, 04:22:12 PM
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When we are fighting each other for the sake of making that 1% of total money in circulation, I don't see being smart make much difference, being smart may get me to a higher position title, I'm still need to fight for that 1% total money in circulation. Being into business doesn't directly give me the luxury to enjoy the 99% wealth that the richest are enjoying. Basically there is no way to get out from this crap.
I'm sorry. But this "99% is for the rich" argument doesn't make any sense. Most of them are wealthy simply because they deserve it and worked hard for it in the first place.
99% is too much for those people who got rich because of hard work.Why not consider for those who had gained those wealth from their parents?
I understand how OP feels on being poor and being tired of inequality but sometimes we cant really change the fact nor the reality that we are born poor and we need to work hard in order to live.
Don't wish the things that its almost impossible to reach.Just be contented and don't pray for a countries bankruptcy  Grin
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January 03, 2019, 03:02:52 PM
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I don't think what comes up in your mind that you want to bankrupt the country of the USA, this country is fully developed and they are the most powerful country among of all. So, bankrupt I think not in the country but probably people who in their(impossible to happen).

Here's a takeaway for you:  If you're born poor, it's not your fault, it's your parents fault. If you die poor, then it's all your fault.
Yes, you were right, this words thinking out of my self and asking my parents why they are poor. Grin

America is already bankrupt. They are trillions of dollars in debt and have no hope in hell of paying it back. Their only hope is to buy up loads of bitcoin and wait for them them to be worth a few million each. This will at least reduce it to a more manageable size
It is good to know if you have a source on this. I think most whales investors are lives in the country of America.
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January 03, 2019, 02:55:43 PM
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America is already bankrupt. They are trillions of dollars in debt and have no hope in hell of paying it back. Their only hope is to buy up loads of bitcoin and wait for them them to be worth a few million each. This will at least reduce it to a more manageable size
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January 03, 2019, 02:53:23 PM
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For a long time, lending to the economy has had a positive effect on the economic growth of countries. So it was in the 90s and 2000s. Lending to the economy is a really good incentive for economic growth, but you need to be very careful with it. Since human greed has no boundaries, many companies, governments and countries have taken loans without really thinking about how they will have to repay debts. The main problem is that everyone thinks that the growth of the economy will continue all the time. No one thinks that something can go beyond the script. For 20 years, almost all countries of the world have been so indebted that they will soon not be able to repay these debts. And many of the countries have already faced up with this problem.

I think the whole banking system is based on that. If there is no war, everything will be as it was
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January 03, 2019, 02:40:10 PM
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You'll be waiting a long time - the US has the most dynamic economy in the World and the greatest people so realistically it aint ever going to happen.
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January 03, 2019, 02:17:55 PM
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I see so much ideology in this replies here  Shocked Especially one about working hard and you will be rich - its quite funny if you would tell this to some poor uneducated person in 3th world country. Actually same goes for United States - it is a country where American dream and social mobility doesn't work anymore so well ( look up book: Price of inequality by Stiglitz
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January 03, 2019, 01:21:20 PM
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For a long time, lending to the economy has had a positive effect on the economic growth of countries. So it was in the 90s and 2000s. Lending to the economy is a really good incentive for economic growth, but you need to be very careful with it. Since human greed has no boundaries, many companies, governments and countries have taken loans without really thinking about how they will have to repay debts. The main problem is that everyone thinks that the growth of the economy will continue all the time. No one thinks that something can go beyond the script. For 20 years, almost all countries of the world have been so indebted that they will soon not be able to repay these debts. And many of the countries have already faced up with this problem.
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January 03, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
#20
Poor people are getting poorer everyday and the rich people are getting richer, a bankruptcy will reset the inequality, and giving the younger generation like me a change of life. Of course I believe in a lot of conspiracy theories. Smiley

When the country goes bankrupt you will see that the rich will stay rich while the poor die in hunger.
We have experienced in the east a forced wealth reset, it ended as the history books say, all poor except for a few , even fewer than right now in the US.

Careful what you wish for!

Because you don't only need to work hard. You also need to work smart.

Best piece of advice anyone can give.

If you really want to cripple a country you need to attack their food supply.

That's called terrorism and that will again hurt the poor.
You know those food lines in the communist countries? Only the 99% were waiting there in line, the members of the communist party never had to wait for food or endure the rations system.

Take a look at Venezuela who is battling for food! Who are those affected? Never saw Maduro hunting rats.




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January 03, 2019, 10:49:12 AM
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So what do you want them to do? Throw away the hard earned money their parents made? One of the reasons the parents worked hard in the first place, is for their children to live comfortably; and you want to take that away from them just because you're a lazy and envious person? That's sick as hell.


That'll be a wishful thinking, they are not going to throw anything to anyone, they have reserved the money for their next 20 generation.



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Oh boy your family and your bloodline will definitely be poor if you don't do something about it.
Here's a takeaway for you:  If you're born poor, it's not your fault, it's your parents fault. If you die poor, then it's all your fault.
I'm going to do something, the first thing I would do is make them bankrupt, so the other generation of their bloodline wouldn't born rich again. Grin
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January 03, 2019, 10:48:01 AM
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If you really want to cripple a country you need to attack their food supply.  Citizens will not fight back unless they run out of food.  America would be in mass chaos if their citizens weren't able to buy snacks from the grocery store.  Once your own citizens turn on you it is a wrap and your country is as good as gone.
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January 03, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
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I have no problem to the people who work hard for it. But the facts are most of them are born in a rich family and they are not even need to work for it when they came to this world, and the same cycle repeat for many generations to come
So what do you want them to do? Throw away the hard earned money their parents made? One of the reasons the parents worked hard in the first place, is for their children to live comfortably; and you want to take that away from them just because you're a lazy and envious person? That's sick as hell.

I'm going to see my next 20 generations to be poor AF like me. Because it is a cycle that's bound to repeat itself. And yes, those born in a rich family are some of the few who control 99% of the money in the world, that's why majority are poor because they are unlucky and born poor.
Oh boy your family and your bloodline will definitely be poor if you don't do something about it.

Here's a takeaway for you:  If you're born poor, it's not your fault, it's your parents fault. If you die poor, then it's all your fault.
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January 03, 2019, 10:27:17 AM
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There's always competition. If making a successful business is easy, then there would no be employees. Hence I said that you need to be smart and make smart decisions. If you think you're smart enough to be rich, then work for it! If not, then probably study and or gain experience for you to be smart enough. That's just it. If you're not willing to put in the work, then all you're going to do in life is to complain, while the others work hard to attain their goals.

The fed have QE 1 in 2009 to 2010, QE 2 in 2011 to 2012, QE 3 in 2012 to 2015, that is a lot of money created into the market, that is a lot of money creation, but the result of QE are making the rich get richer, and I didn't get anything from that QE, not even a single penny, it is same for all the other poor people, so I believe all the created money from the QE goes into the people who born in a rich family and they didn't work for it. The guy who work the hardest get nothing from the QE!
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January 03, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
#15

I am waiting for the country to go bankrupt, but I dunno how long it will take. What do you think is the best way to speed it up?
I believe many expert will use debt as a gauge to measure the apocalypse.
I think everyone taking a loan will contribute to the debt, but it doesn't make the country bankrupt, it's the people who take the loan will go bankrupt first. I don't think it is the best way to do, so what else can we do?

And what exactly would be your gain should the country go bankrupt? Do you even know the amount of lives that would be on the line should a country go bankrupt and in this case, not only the American population would be affected but the entire world will suffer for it. Starting from the third world countries that relies on aid from the country to even fight basic diseases or the myriads of people who have citizen in the states and they were able to better their economy because of capital inflow or the amount of weapons that they have made available for countries to combat both within and outside enemies couple with the control and checks they have constituted against countries that won't mind running others over.
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January 03, 2019, 10:02:30 AM
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I'm not sure about this idea but I think if all the counties engage the America to a war probably the America will invest a lot of money to preapare for war and the damage to its country and the reconstruction of the damage area or maybe assign an Idiot leader to America and for sure the country will go bankrupt but non of this will going to happen so it's really impossible for America to go bankrupt.
I believe it is how Russian/Ukraine get themselve into what they have today, they're heavily invested into wars, and their currency collapsed, but they are not yet bankrupt, what a surprise!


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Do you even think on what is going to happen if America will bankrupt? All other nations will go down too.

That will be the best ending I want to see it happen! Having a nation itself is like having a marriage, when the nation failed you're marriage are done too.

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Anyways, it is very important to a country as rich and strong as America to get bankrupt like you wanted to see. You know, there are many countries which is much poorer than the poorest that is still striving to be somehow become a good country. So I don't think it is possible for America to be down.
I had seem many countries go down, that's why I want to see a strong country like America to go down too, but it will take a very long time, I hope in my limited life I have a chance to see it happen.
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January 03, 2019, 09:56:11 AM
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When we are fighting each other for the sake of making that 1% of total money in circulation, I don't see being smart make much difference, being smart may get me to a higher position title, I'm still need to fight for that 1% total money in circulation. Being into business doesn't directly give me the luxury to enjoy the 99% wealth that the richest are enjoying. Basically there is no way to get out from this crap.
I'm sorry. But this "99% is for the rich" argument doesn't make any sense. Most of them are wealthy simply because they deserve it and worked hard for it in the first place.

That may be true when competition are very low, but in a time like today, every business are very competitive, every competitive business are fighting for the same 1% wealth in the world, no doubt about many business failed almost immediately it get into the market, and it's how people getting themselves broke by involving themselves into speculative business.
There's always competition. If making a successful business is easy, then there would no be employees. Hence I said that you need to be smart and make smart decisions. If you think you're smart enough to be rich, then work for it! If not, then probably study and or gain experience for you to be smart enough. That's just it. If you're not willing to put in the work, then all you're going to do in life is to complain, while the others work hard to attain their goals.
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January 03, 2019, 09:43:53 AM
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The OP has made his point, if your dady or mommy did not gave you something you are f...most of the people tried, risk and failed, some achieved something, but the fact is majority failed.

OP you are not alone in this crap, that how it is. No mather how hard you try, what you do in majority of cases you will fail. So, don't get a GF and have any children is my best advice.
It is how civilization goes down the drain, we have no people we have no nation and we have no wealth (a.k.a. Bankruptcy), and we are all heading to that direction. Grin


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Because you don't only need to work hard. You also need to work smart. You're most likely not going anywhere working your 9-5 job alone. Making smart decisions and starting a business or being an entrepreneur works.
When we are fighting each other for the sake of making that 1% of total money in circulation, I don't see being smart make much difference, being smart may get me to a higher position title, I'm still need to fight for that 1% total money in circulation. Being into business doesn't directly give me the luxury to enjoy the 99% wealth that the richest are enjoying. Basically there is no way to get out from this crap.

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And as with loans, you don't need loans with every kind of business. I know a lot of people that started from the lower lower class(as in the lower class where they could barely afford to eat twice a day), and now? They're not like super rich, but they're decently wealthy financially. What did they do? Became entrepreneurs and created small businesses through their good ideas and smart decisions.
That may be true when competition are very low, but in a time like today, every business are very competitive, every competitive business are fighting for the same 1% wealth in the world, no doubt about many business failed almost immediately it get into the market, and it's how people getting themselves broke by involving themselves into speculative business.

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Complaining and hoping harm for people isn't going to get you anywhere.

Also, complaining about banks and money? Isn't that one of the main reasons we have bitcoin?
Bitcoin are great, it has no doubt causing some panic to the elite, but it is not immune to the price manipulation by the wealthy, which is what the richest people doing everyday to make sure we are all poor. We need a wealth that cannot be manipulated by the means of future market or with money.
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January 03, 2019, 08:43:10 AM
#11

I am waiting for the country to go bankrupt, but I dunno how long it will take. What do you think is the best way to speed it up?
I believe many expert will use debt as a gauge to measure the apocalypse.
I think everyone taking a loan will contribute to the debt, but it doesn't make the country bankrupt, it's the people who take the loan will go bankrupt first. I don't think it is the best way to do, so what else can we do?

Do you even think on what is going to happen if America will bankrupt? All other nations will go down too. Anyways, it is very important to a country as rich and strong as America to get bankrupt like you wanted to see. You know, there are many countries which is much poorer than the poorest that is still striving to be somehow become a good country. So I don't think it is possible for America to be down.
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January 03, 2019, 06:55:48 AM
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I'm not sure about this idea but I think if all the counties engage the America to a war probably the America will invest a lot of money to preapare for war and the damage to its country and the reconstruction of the damage area or maybe assign an Idiot leader to America and for sure the country will go bankrupt but non of this will going to happen so it's really impossible for America to go bankrupt.
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January 03, 2019, 06:47:00 AM
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I tried to work hard until I come to realize that no matter how hard I work, I can't beat the facts that I'm getting poorer by workin for it, because when 99% of the money are owned by the richest, while only leaving the 1% money to the plebs like me, to fight each other to earn that 1% money in circulation. I don't need a math expert to tell me fighting for 1% of money is not the best way to become rich.

Finally the richest are enjoying the dividend from their 99% of all money in the world saving in their private bank, how rich I going to be to enjoy the dividend that come from 1% of total money in circulation? Also the bank don't want to give loan to plebs like me because I don't have collateral to secure the loan, only the richest can have all the loan in the world because they have so much asset to work as collateral to take a loan, I believe most of the loans created in the world
still goes to the rich. What are left to me are working hard to enjoy nothing in life.

Because you don't only need to work hard. You also need to work smart. You're most likely not going anywhere working your 9-5 job alone. Making smart decisions and starting a business or being an entrepreneur works.

And as with loans, you don't need loans with every kind of business. I know a lot of people that started from the lower lower class(as in the lower class where they could barely afford to eat twice a day), and now? They're not like super rich, but they're decently wealthy financially. What did they do? Became entrepreneurs and created small businesses through their good ideas and smart decisions.

Complaining and hoping harm for people isn't going to get you anywhere.

Also, complaining about banks and money? Isn't that one of the main reasons we have bitcoin?
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