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Quote from: Desmong on September 29, 2021, 03:55:11 PM

You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.

I said again, VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.

I'm playing on 2 different countries without problem, but I have good proxy and 2 different devices.

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You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

I think that it is a lot harder than you think to set up a gambling platform.

All the regulations etc. make it a complete headache.

So no, there isn't a 1:1 copy of Betfair that is available but you can get close to that if you use something like fairlay? But of course nowhere near the liquidity of Betfair.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 21, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

I thought of this but I guess the OP might have tried it and it didn't work out. I had my VPN on recently and I logged in to a gambling site just to see that they blocked me from logging in, asking me to turn off the VPN. So, depending on the sensitivity of betfair, it may not work for him. But even if it does, a better suggestion is for OP to contact them officially and make enquiries as to what happened.

Because VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.

If you want Betfair, you can looking my thread when I sold this account.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58054299

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 21, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

I thought of this but I guess the OP might have tried it and it didn't work out. I had my VPN on recently and I logged in to a gambling site just to see that they blocked me from logging in, asking me to turn off the VPN. So, depending on the sensitivity of betfair, it may not work for him. But even if it does, a better suggestion is for OP to contact them officially and make enquiries as to what happened.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

This is pointless, no casino website is going to accept that a user that lives in a country on their restricted list uses their services from the very same country while using a VPN to mask where they are, this goes against the TOS of most casinos, and even if they do not have it included yet the moment you ask something like this they will add it as it is illogical for them to allow this when they will probably suffer penalties because of this that are greater than any money the gambler could bring.

So while I understand why being restricted by betfair can be troublesome at the same time the only options are to find another website where to make our bets or move to another country, something that is too extreme for something that is supposed to be our hobby.

It is just way too extreme or too desperate but if you do have the money to move then why not? Most of the time people will consider out on connecting through VPN instead of moving into other places
just for the sake of access.

Its understandable that some sites do really need to impose those restrictions due to regulation concern which had been set.For some cases its truly inevitable that there are users
who came from restricted countries would really be having some access.

There are still lots of options though if you are really looking for some entertainment.

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Quote from: michellee on September 22, 2021, 01:20:22 AM

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

This is pointless, no casino website is going to accept that a user that lives in a country on their restricted list uses their services from the very same country while using a VPN to mask where they are, this goes against the TOS of most casinos, and even if they do not have it included yet the moment you ask something like this they will add it as it is illogical for them to allow this when they will probably suffer penalties because of this that are greater than any money the gambler could bring.

So while I understand why being restricted by betfair can be troublesome at the same time the only options are to find another website where to make our bets or move to another country, something that is too extreme for something that is supposed to be our hobby.

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Exactly, OP should've done that one a long time ago or at the least made some sort of compromise to move to other casinos to play, being obsessed with only one seems unhealthy to me if you ask me, you're banned OP so why not just move to another site?

It's up to op now if staying on the same platform or find another platform that is trusted, reputable and same as what op want to gamble. I wouldn't want to use betfair if your country is not allowed to gamble in the platform as when you win big time if ever you got in with/without using VPN then withdrawal won't ever happen. In other words, you just gambled illegally if you call it that way.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

I'm currently experiencing the same thing, but with the risk involved, I decided to switch to another site and let a few small dollars sink in there. I initially tried to use a VPN and it wasn't good at all just because for the sake of playing there I broke the rules. I realized that at that time I was just trying to be as effective as playing at Betfair. Now I am more concerned about security in the future and enter a gambling site that allows our country to gamble.

If that is related to our country's rule, maybe it will be okay for now, but not sure in the future because the government can change their rule easily and the casino will change the rule too. Sometimes I use VPN and so far, I do not have a problem because I do not gamble for money. If I break the rule incidentally, I only use small money on the site so if that money is lost, and I do not mind. Talking about security, we need to protect the account, especially when we have some balance.

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Quote from: ukgoldhawk on September 23, 2021, 04:14:20 PM

He wants to use sport exchange and Betfair has largest exchange platform.
That's why he wants to stick with Betfair.

Exactly, it is not a good idea for we know that the regulation is not only for him and Betfair may not only focus on one player. Moreover, if it relates to Terms and Conditions including the regulations.
I actually feel surprised why he must impose. Yes even though Betfair is a big site but it does not mean it must impose mainly because it is indeed related to T & C.
There are still many choices. If there are some easier sites, why should be on the site that exactly doesn't allow him Grin

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Quote from: nakamura12 on September 23, 2021, 04:09:25 PM

Why not try to use another platform where using vpn is not restricted and you can withdraw your funds without going through KYC or maybe depends on the site. If you continue using the same platform but you will need VPN to gamble and once you win, you can never get your money since where you from is restricted in their platform. Letting you gamble withoit doing something could get them in trouble.

He wants to use sport exchange and Betfair has largest exchange platform.
That's why he wants to stick with Betfair.

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Why not try to use another platform where using vpn is not restricted and you can withdraw your funds without going through KYC or maybe depends on the site. If you continue using the same platform but you will need VPN to gamble and once you win, you can never get your money since where you from is restricted in their platform. Letting you gamble withoit doing something could get them in trouble.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 23, 2021, 10:23:37 AM

I see a lot of people suggesting that OP should use VPN services to bypass the "region restrictions" ... but that is also not allowed and clearly stated in most online casinos ToS. If the casino find out that OP have been circumventing their region restrictions, with VPNs.....his account will be locked and he will have to forfeit his balance.

Yes, some casinos conveniently look the other way when you use a VPN, but when you win something big and you want to withdraw it, then suddenly the bypassing of the VPN becomes an issue. Roll Eyes

Also, if your country have an issue with online gambling and you win something big.... then you will have to explain it to the tax authorities ...and you might get huge fines or even jail time. Sad

With Betfair, even if they caught you using VPN, most of the time they don't even care unless you're a risk to them.
Even if they decided to close your account, most likely they will just return the balance to you and close the account.
If they close your account and confiscate your balance simply because you're using VPN, they might get into trouble with UKGC.

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Quote from: michellee on September 22, 2021, 01:20:22 AM

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

I'm currently experiencing the same thing, but with the risk involved, I decided to switch to another site and let a few small dollars sink in there. I initially tried to use a VPN and it wasn't good at all just because for the sake of playing there I broke the rules. I realized that at that time I was just trying to be as effective as playing at Betfair. Now I am more concerned about security in the future and enter a gambling site that allows our country to gamble.

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I see a lot of people suggesting that OP should use VPN services to bypass the "region restrictions" ... but that is also not allowed and clearly stated in most online casinos ToS. If the casino find out that OP have been circumventing their region restrictions, with VPNs.....his account will be locked and he will have to forfeit his balance.

Yes, some casinos conveniently look the other way when you use a VPN, but when you win something big and you want to withdraw it, then suddenly the bypassing of the VPN becomes an issue. Roll Eyes

Also, if your country have an issue with online gambling and you win something big.... then you will have to explain it to the tax authorities ...and you might get huge fines or even jail time. Sad

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I think OP tries to stay with Betfair because Betfair has the largest sport exchange market.
Most of the crypto casinos don't offer exchange services.
One of the reason Betfair and other UK based sportsbooks are not offering crypto deposit/withdraw is because UKGC has a tight regulation on AML.
There have been some casinos tried to do that but actually got sanction in the end, so I don't think Betfair will add crypto anytime soon unless there's a huge change on the circumstance.

Betfair excludes customers by country of residence, not country of citizen.
Which means, if you're a citizen of one of the excluded countries, you're still allowed to use your ID to open an account if you're reside in another country which is not excluded.
So some people will choose to use VPN to bypass the restriction, but you must choose a VPN that's not blacklisted yet.
Betfair has blacklisted most of the mainstream VPNs, even if you're able to open an account, it will be closed very soon.
Betfair has been very difficult to play with since they joined Stars group, they have and is closing lots of accounts and there are lots of complaints against them.

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Quote from: BIN-BIN on September 23, 2021, 01:05:19 AM

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

That ok if the site support gives go-ahead for the use of VPN, my fear is if the site will allow VPN them what is the motive of setting restrictions in place. Why I said so is because of my experience my account got ban for using VPN despite the support clearing me to use it.

What I am worried if when the support sites allow using VPN when we win and want to withdraw the money, they will ask to do KYC, no matter how much they win money. That is a bit scary, you know, that will not be okay if they do that because they do not tell us that we must verify our account to withdraw the money. Hopefully, that is not happening in any gambling site and it is better to explain in the beginning than we should face that problem in the future.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 21, 2021, 10:13:49 AM

Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

But why try to beat the restrictions with a VPN and risk getting caught one day. Why not stay away from site that does not include your country. There must be a reason for such an action and you should avoid them. Look for alternative gambling sites and I know there are several of them with similar games where you can play too. It is best to avoid the stress from the beginning.

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Quote from: michellee on September 22, 2021, 01:20:22 AM

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

That ok if the site support gives go-ahead for the use of VPN, my fear is if the site will allow VPN them what is the motive of setting restrictions in place. Why I said so is because of my experience my account got ban for using VPN despite the support clearing me to use it.

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