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Quote from: EKoston on September 22, 2021, 04:50:33 AM

i also suggest Orbit Exchange via BetinAsia or bet-footbal
or new solution from Sportmarket called Traderplace. Which is full clone of betfair exchange

crypto alternatives are no solution at the moment in my opinion. Lack of liquidity and user are one problem, and the offer of Games/leagues are a problem at the moment.

Here in forum one solutions seems nice, but has same problems at the moment. maybe in future they will improve (exbet.io)

I use orbits through betinasia and I think it's for the best. Sportmarket did not want to give me an account to betfair at one time, and I do not see this traderplace with support at all, I have not disposed of it yet. And even Onehash is blocked for me Sad

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Everything has been clearly stated in their Terms and Conditions and you can read the T&C here:
https://www.betfair.com/en/aboutUs/Terms.and.Conditions/

They have clearly said about who can have an account there and will be able to play gambling or betting there.

A gambling site has its own right to do such T&C, moreover related to a country restriction. Commonly it is not based on they don't want to accept you because they don't want, but they only obey such regulations, and if they break the regulation by allowing such suers from restricted countries to join in their platform, they will probably get punsihment. And will they risk themselves to this only for several small suers? No.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Most crypto sportsbooks are probably able to help you?

Fairlay, OneHash are probably the ones that I would go with that would resemble Betfair the most.

You could try to "buy" Betfair accounts but at the same time that comes with a huge risk that I wouldn't be willing to take, given that it's a direct opposition of the Terms and Conditions.

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i also suggest Orbit Exchange via BetinAsia or bet-footbal
or new solution from Sportmarket called Traderplace. Which is full clone of betfair exchange

crypto alternatives are no solution at the moment in my opinion. Lack of liquidity and user are one problem, and the offer of Games/leagues are a problem at the moment.

Here in forum one solutions seems nice, but has same problems at the moment. maybe in future they will improve (exbet.io)

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Orbit Exchange is probably what you are looking for. Orbit is available through brokers such as Betinasia.

mirq20

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Thank you for your advice and support. I can see that not everyone understands me. I used Betfair from 2010 to 2017 when the government imposed prohibitions. I have no problem gambling at all, just betfair was making me good profit. I have been using Betfair brokers since the ban, which is tiring in the long run. For more information, I am interested in the Betfair exchange as well as GeeksToy or Fairbot software. Of course I've been watching Fairlay etc for a while but haven't used them yet. I fear that my account will be restricted by stakes, there was no such problem at Betfair. I greet you warmly.

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Quote from: davis196 on September 22, 2021, 01:55:10 AM

If you are from a restricted country,then how have you managed to use betfair?Did you use VPN?
I think that residential proxies are a better option than VPN,because the IPs from a VPN are usually blacklisted by most websites.You could find cheap residential proxies,but I don't remember the exact name of the platform.
Anyway,like other forum members said,at some point you will face KYC,so hiding your IP/location will be pointless.
If you have so many doubts about the betfair alternatives,then why don't you just quit sports betting.
Do you have a gambling addiction or something?

Terrible advice (before you rambled about OP quitting gambling?!?) because Betfair is regulated in multiple countries, meaning they CAN NOT allow VPN's

https://www.betfair.com/aboutUs/Regulatory.Information/#

The fines are hefty if they don't ensure KYC and location data of players, as well as avoid becoming a money laundering website for users....

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

If you are from a restricted country,then how have you managed to use betfair?Did you use VPN?
I think that residential proxies are a better option than VPN,because the IPs from a VPN are usually blacklisted by most websites.You could find cheap residential proxies,but I don't remember the exact name of the platform.
Anyway,like other forum members said,at some point you will face KYC,so hiding your IP/location will be pointless.
If you have so many doubts about the betfair alternatives,then why don't you just quit sports betting.
Do you have a gambling addiction or something?

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Have you taken a look at BTC betting exchanges like Fairlay?

Whilst I agree that Betfair is definitely a great service, it's not the only fish in the ocean.

Take a look at both centralized sportsbooks like Nitrogenbet/Sportsbet.io etc. as well as Fairlay - and I'm pretty certain that there is actually a few decentralized betting markets (that don't have much liquidity within them) hosted on blockchain as well.

definitely agree here. who knows the OP might see other betting exchanges as better than betfair? with his country's exclusion from betfair, he has no choice but look for other sites. with several reputable sportsbooks/casinos here other than btc betting exchange like fairlay, he may find out that some of these casinos can actually serve what he's looking for.

Fairlay and OneHash (who knows who owns them now) were the only two we had seen offering anything close.

The problem is liquidity, which was quite low as most people don't own anything other than bitcoin and MOST people would bet with fiat over bitcoin any day because only one has a limited supply

Nitrogen and Stake will offer decent odds betting with bitcoin and Fairlay does still have the "market maker" feature to bet on anything, it's just rare people bet there

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VPN makes no difference as every account goes through KYC.

And if you are German for example they quit the service for all germans (you can still use the sportsbook but not the betting exchange) in around 2010 because of the 5% gambling tax on every bet.

Still waiting for them to add btc but I guess this will never happen.

Let us not push ourself in this site when there are so many options we can use to gamble , we all here Hates KYC obligatory for creating account or even making withdrawal soon.
Just play if you think this is appropriate and deny if not simple as that.
there are tons of gambling site operating and in advertising here in forum in which proven to be legit and accurately responding to our desired situation and even promising us of how safe our funds in this community of gambling .

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.

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VPN makes no difference as every account goes through KYC.

And if you are German for example they quit the service for all germans (you can still use the sportsbook but not the betting exchange) in around 2010 because of the 5% gambling tax on every bet.

Still waiting for them to add btc but I guess this will never happen.

Too bad that you can't use their site even if you use a VPN, is there like some site that you can use to be an alternative for Betfair or at the least are you looking for one though? Because you're probably going to adapt to the situation since you don't want to stop gambling.

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Aside from Fairlay there's also this list of sportsbook and exchanges including reviews from other sports bettors.

As of now there's really no good crypto betting exchange that could compete against betfair but still there's a few good ones that's available.

Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country?

That's up to you, if i'm in that situation I wouldn't take the risk unless I couldn't find the market I prefer betting on.

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Quote from: timerland on September 21, 2021, 05:16:10 PM

Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Have you taken a look at BTC betting exchanges like Fairlay?

Whilst I agree that Betfair is definitely a great service, it's not the only fish in the ocean.

Take a look at both centralized sportsbooks like Nitrogenbet/Sportsbet.io etc. as well as Fairlay - and I'm pretty certain that there is actually a few decentralized betting markets (that don't have much liquidity within them) hosted on blockchain as well.

definitely agree here. who knows the OP might see other betting exchanges as better than betfair? with his country's exclusion from betfair, he has no choice but look for other sites. with several reputable sportsbooks/casinos here other than btc betting exchange like fairlay, he may find out that some of these casinos can actually serve what he's looking for.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Have you taken a look at BTC betting exchanges like Fairlay?

Whilst I agree that Betfair is definitely a great service, it's not the only fish in the ocean.

Take a look at both centralized sportsbooks like Nitrogenbet/Sportsbet.io etc. as well as Fairlay - and I'm pretty certain that there is actually a few decentralized betting markets (that don't have much liquidity within them) hosted on blockchain as well.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Is there other angle you can find that your account was ban, like multi accounting or something? I don't think it's a probable reason to ban an account from a country that isn't excluded from the list of countries. What was the message from Betfair notifying about this ban, maybe you could be more specific in that matter and maybe move this on reputation or scam accusation board as well, it's more appropriate there.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Little confused over here. Did they ban your account after your country was added to the restricted list or was your country already on the restriction list but you somehow found a way to bypass the ban? Casinos cannot provide their services to all countries due to different laws and regulation of different countries. You are from a country where your government won't allow you to play on their casino. So you can't blame the casino over here. You probably got banned because the casino noticed that you are playing from a country where they do not provide their services. You broke their ToS, so they have the right to ban your account.

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Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

It's profitable but it's incredibly hard to set up in general and to deal with all the regulations in this field.

A lot of the crypto sportsbooks (fortunejack, Stake, sportsbet, nitro) offer a lot of the markets covered by Betfair though.

Is there a particular reason why you don't want to use crypto based sportsbooks? Are you looking for fiat solutions only?

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 21, 2021, 03:38:12 PM

Quote from: mirq20 on September 21, 2021, 08:20:08 AM

I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same.

^ From this line, why you will keep chasing them and use them even though your country was excluded by them?
It is very risky to use PVN or any tools that you can bypass that restriction and probably it is a good time to let them go and find a better booker aside from them, there are too many here in the forum that running their business fairly and did not restrict others. But in the last line is not the same, what do you mean by that? or do they use a clone website?

Same thoughts on why you would really be pushing up yourself on using up the platform if its really prohibited or excluding your country because using up VPN would just simply be that risky once you get caught.

There are lots of bookies out there which isnt only limited into this site on where you could make use of.Of course when it comes to laws and regulations then it would really vary into each provider or something like that.

It is just understandable on how those exclusions do works and theres nothing w can do about it.

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