🎲BetFury.io|💫 Stellar network & XLM 💫|📈BFG farming on BabySwap - page 130.

erep

hero member

Activity: 2282

Merit: 589

Quote from: len01 on January 15, 2023, 02:15:04 PM

well that's what I mean. maybe not reputation but rather just oblivion and if any new gambler jumps into this forum looking for online casinos it will definitely be quicker to see casinos that still have signature campaigns. because usually new gamblers who have just joined this forum are looking for a good online casino, they don't know about the gambling board and sometimes they only see the signatures of forum members.

but back to the main topic, I hope that Betfury will still run its signature campaign, even if it only selects a small number of forum members so that it will still be seen or not forgotten.

They can allocate from the promotion funds to run new signature campaigns to increase their promotion in the forum, you may be right about the statement above that everyone will see the signature code of each account to be added to the list of gambling platforms, so apart from increasing traffic to gambling websites but also increase the trust of gamblers, signature promotions are very effective to support the increase of new users, increase the reputation of the casino and casino revenue will further increase.

len01

hero member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 585

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: logfiles on January 15, 2023, 04:39:34 AM

-.

But to be honest, according to my observation, casinos or services that run long term campaigns are the ones to seem to thrive more rather than those to keep starting up short campaigns. Once you introduce lets say a 2 months campaign, you get known in those two months after which signatures are removed and next thing that happens is people forget that the service even exists

well that's what I mean. maybe not reputation but rather just oblivion and if any new gambler jumps into this forum looking for online casinos it will definitely be quicker to see casinos that still have signature campaigns. because usually new gamblers who have just joined this forum are looking for a good online casino, they don't know about the gambling board and sometimes they only see the signatures of forum members.

but back to the main topic, I hope that Betfury will still run its signature campaign, even if it only selects a small number of forum members so that it will still be seen or not forgotten.

o48o

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1168

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: bittraffic on January 15, 2023, 12:44:19 PM

What happened to the loyal followers of Betfury by the way? If they are so Loyal I t think they should keep the signatures especially if they are staking thier BFGs in the casino.
-cut-

Why would anyone be loyal to a casino that doesn't care for their token investors. When dividends are just going to get diluted more and more, and there is no plan for the tokens, why would anyone want to risk it and hodl those tokens or advertise that casino?

They lost my loyality soon after BFG was released to markets. After that they had all the time to fix the tokenomics, but instead of doing that they went on the trendy road of farming. I haven't completely lost my faith in them because tokenomics could still easily be fixed. It just looks like they don't want to do it.

RealMalatesta

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 1124

Quote from: arwin100 on January 13, 2023, 06:20:37 AM

1xbit still see this forum as good place to get large number of costumers so even if they have bad feedbacks coming from various people they still choose to run a campaign so that they can till get a exposure here. But since Betfury is somehow what we can look as reputable casino this campaign can help them since this could extend their exposure and as well many gambler might get redirect to their thread to create some good discussions about them.

It' not the same thing, we are talking about a casino that basically stole peoples money and still doing campaign to get some more people be convince that they are legit, we are all aware that they are not legit at all and that's fine, it's not a big issue if you ask me because if people are incapable of checking if a place is legit or not then it's their own fault, you could literally check their profile and see it, it's that simple.

On the other hand, betfury is an amazing place and when they do a marketing campaign that means people will realize how amazing they are, they may not know it yet, because they never heard of it or checked it, but with marketing they will get to learn more about it.

bittraffic

hero member

Activity: 3038

Merit: 617

Quote from: Mate2237 on January 15, 2023, 12:34:18 PM

Quote from: logfiles on January 15, 2023, 04:39:34 AM

Quote from: len01 on January 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM

but it would be better if the campaign was continued to build good trust than before. so there is no doubt from the gamblers here.

Signature campaigns mostly help with exposure and maybe bring in new customers, it has nothing with building trust. What the service delivers is what builds trust. There can be several reasons as to why certain service stop signature campaigns, as already mentioned by some members.

But to be honest, according to my observation, casinos or services that run long term campaigns are the ones to seem to thrive more rather than those to keep starting up short campaigns. Once you introduce lets say a 2 months campaign, you get known in those two months after which signatures are removed and next thing that happens is people forget that the service even exists

I have already forgotten that Betfury is still in the forum because their campaign is not in the active part. Yes if the signature campaign is still available or running in the forum the awareness would have increased. Even the newbies would have known that such casino does exist in the casino space. Campaign is one of the best way to attract customers to the casino website.

I will agree with logfiles that signature campaign has nothing to do with the casino's reputation. The way the casino attends to it customers will determine the reputation of the casino. But campaign also help on the popularity of the casino in the forum

What happened to the loyal followers of Betfury by the way? If they are so Loyal I t think they should keep the signatures especially if they are staking thier BFGs in the casino.

They are going to keep sending dividends to the holders while paying the campaigns also. The signature campaign will help the promotion but it's also going to drain the funds of the team. Maybe they could do campaigns to low-rank users, less fee but will still have requirements to be visible in the gambling forum.

Erumo

member

Activity: 564

Merit: 50

Quote from: Mate2237 on January 15, 2023, 12:34:18 PM

I have already forgotten that Betfury is still in the forum because their campaign is not in the active part. Yes if the signature campaign is still available or running in the forum the awareness would have increased. Even the newbies would have known that such casino does exist in the casino space. Campaign is one of the best way to attract customers to the casino website.

I will agree with logfiles that signature campaign has nothing to do with the casino's reputation. The way the casino attends to it customers will determine the reputation of the casino. But campaign also help on the popularity of the casino in the forum

You must be a rare guest in gambling section then. Because this topic rarely goes to second page in gambling. BetFury is always on a hot discussion. Take a look on number of online users (~120), daily posts (~5500). And calculate ratio taking into consideration that average signature campaign has 20-30 users. Even signature campaign that runs for weeks are hard to notice if you dont spend time in its main forum sections.

Mate2237

hero member

Activity: 700

Merit: 577

Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com

Quote from: logfiles on January 15, 2023, 04:39:34 AM

Quote from: len01 on January 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM

but it would be better if the campaign was continued to build good trust than before. so there is no doubt from the gamblers here.

Signature campaigns mostly help with exposure and maybe bring in new customers, it has nothing with building trust. What the service delivers is what builds trust. There can be several reasons as to why certain service stop signature campaigns, as already mentioned by some members.

But to be honest, according to my observation, casinos or services that run long term campaigns are the ones to seem to thrive more rather than those to keep starting up short campaigns. Once you introduce lets say a 2 months campaign, you get known in those two months after which signatures are removed and next thing that happens is people forget that the service even exists

I have already forgotten that Betfury is still in the forum because their campaign is not in the active part. Yes if the signature campaign is still available or running in the forum the awareness would have increased. Even the newbies would have known that such casino does exist in the casino space. Campaign is one of the best way to attract customers to the casino website.

I will agree with logfiles that signature campaign has nothing to do with the casino's reputation. The way the casino attends to it customers will determine the reputation of the casino. But campaign also help on the popularity of the casino in the forum

piebeyb

legendary

Activity: 2464

Merit: 1039

Bitcoin Trader

Quote from: logfiles on January 15, 2023, 04:39:34 AM

Quote from: len01 on January 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM

but it would be better if the campaign was continued to build good trust than before. so there is no doubt from the gamblers here.

Signature campaigns mostly help with exposure and maybe bring in new customers, it has nothing with building trust. What the service delivers is what builds trust. There can be several reasons as to why certain service stop signature campaigns, as already mentioned by some members.

But to be honest, according to my observation, casinos or services that run long term campaigns are the ones to seem to thrive more rather than those to keep starting up short campaigns. Once you introduce lets say a 2 months campaign, you get known in those two months after which signatures are removed and next thing that happens is people forget that the service even exists

well at least betfury has run a signature campaign on this forum even though it was stopped because whatever it is semura people should still respect their decision , at least they are still active in this thread to provide any latest news from their casino, so far that I see the signature campaign is running depending on the budget, it's possible that betfury doesn't have the budget for a signature campaign anymore, but at least they've run that campaign before

Fivestar4everMVP

legendary

Activity: 2422

Merit: 1083

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Silberman on January 14, 2023, 09:34:20 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 04:38:29 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.
Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

It is possible that like any other person or business related to cryptocurrencies they needed to cut down on their expenses and instead of trying to develop new features it was decided that it was better to simply keep things as they are and just patch critical bugs and wait until things get better, and now since their token has grown in value 38% during the last two months they could update their roadmap and start to develop new features once again.

Did they really have to depend on the price appreciation of their token to keep development ongoing? Not cool and does not predict good for the casino if you ask me.
This is a gambling casino we are talking about here, how about the profits they make from their gambling business, does it mean that that fund can not keep the casino running well?
Having to purse development all the price of the token isn't doing well is one I wouldn't expect, because this would make me want to ask , what about other casinos that doesn't have their own token and, yet have continued to develop their platform ?

logfiles

copper member

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1827

Top Crypto Casino

Quote from: len01 on January 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM

but it would be better if the campaign was continued to build good trust than before. so there is no doubt from the gamblers here.

Signature campaigns mostly help with exposure and maybe bring in new customers, it has nothing with building trust. What the service delivers is what builds trust. There can be several reasons as to why certain service stop signature campaigns, as already mentioned by some members.

But to be honest, according to my observation, casinos or services that run long term campaigns are the ones to seem to thrive more rather than those to keep starting up short campaigns. Once you introduce lets say a 2 months campaign, you get known in those two months after which signatures are removed and next thing that happens is people forget that the service even exists

Silberman

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1338

Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 04:38:29 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.
Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

It is possible that like any other person or business related to cryptocurrencies they needed to cut down on their expenses and instead of trying to develop new features it was decided that it was better to simply keep things as they are and just patch critical bugs and wait until things get better, and now since their token has grown in value 38% during the last two months they could update their roadmap and start to develop new features once again.

babygun

sr. member

Activity: 2170

Merit: 254

Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 04:38:29 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 14, 2023, 06:38:21 AM

They've got the marketing team who are taking care of every advertisement that they feel that bringing them the traffics, I agree that they are not just spending money for nothing but they are also expecting a good return that will favor the business, whatever the plan we will keep hearing updates here in case that they will re-open the signature campaign.

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.
Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

Haven't paid attention to it but that is worrisome indeed. Before they always reached the milestones they posted on their roadmap (for every quarter) so I wonder why they stopped updating it. Hopefully a new roadmap for 2023 (and 2024) will be posted again.

o48o

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1168

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 04:38:29 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.
Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

This is right thing to be worried about. This casino was build on idea of a token, and now it seems that idea wasn't thought trough and roadmap is unclear. Just buying the tokens slowly from the open market like Unu Sed Leo and burning them like would be an acceptable end game and make the mining seem like a good idea. What ever they do they can't stop moving.

It's a run against other, bigger and better casinos with good track record on customer support. Without a plan, a roadmap and constant building to be better site Betfury will lose the game for the casinos with a vision.

Fivestar4everMVP

legendary

Activity: 2422

Merit: 1083

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 04:38:29 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 14, 2023, 06:38:21 AM

They've got the marketing team who are taking care of every advertisement that they feel that bringing them the traffics, I agree that they are not just spending money for nothing but they are also expecting a good return that will favor the business, whatever the plan we will keep hearing updates here in case that they will re-open the signature campaign.

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.

This might be true, but one thing I know is that signature ad campaign is long term kind of marketing, I think I said this in my earlier comment here, most companies tend to judge the effectiveness of signature Ad campaign by its short term result, this is a mistake, signature Ad campaign might always don't seen effective in the short term, but in the long term, it's always worth it.

Quote

Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

Probably they've stopped building, their casino runs fine from my experience with their site, all they need is to maintain it, so it can be probably understandable if this is the reason they no longer have a road map, not every thing a company does is always included in their roadmap, and some companies don't even make their roadmap public.

dwyane36

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 2309

Quote from: Fredomago on January 14, 2023, 06:38:21 AM

They've got the marketing team who are taking care of every advertisement that they feel that bringing them the traffics, I agree that they are not just spending money for nothing but they are also expecting a good return that will favor the business, whatever the plan we will keep hearing updates here in case that they will re-open the signature campaign.

If I'm not mistaken, Betfury used utm tags in the links of the last signature campaign. So its marketing team could easily evaluate the results of the signature campaign and make appropriate conclusions about it.
Honestly, lately, I've been more concerned about Betfury's roadmap rather than its marketing team's strategy. The problem is that Betfury stopped updating the roadmap more than six months ago, and now it's the middle of January, but there's still no new roadmap for this year. So we can only guess whether Betfury will somehow develop its platform by adding new features and events or not.

Fredomago

legendary

Activity: 2996

Merit: 1054

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: TheGreatPython on January 14, 2023, 01:02:41 AM

Quote from: Silberman on January 11, 2023, 03:13:45 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on January 11, 2023, 12:06:24 PM

You are right,casinos that runs signature campaigns continuously in the forum without stopping is benefiting more than those that just run it for awhile and stop. It is a strategy to show their loyalty to customers and their credibility.

They make more money because most signature campaign participants don't even have time to depend on this payment as they see it as a way to provide for their gambling habit,i.e they gamble with the SIG pay in the casino they are running signature campaign for. You pay me for a service and I use to money that you paid me to entertain myself in your casino. Betfury.io team should try and come back to continue with their campaign,for better promotion of their casino.

It is to be expected the owners and administrators of betfury know their situation way better than we do, if they are not promoting themselves in the forum through ads or a signature campaign it is not difficult to think a few reasons of why this is the case, a few of them are that they do not think it is necessary at the moment, they do not think they will obtain good results with it or simply they do not have the budget to do this at the moment.

It's just about the money, nothing more. Obviously they would love to have a signature campaign that would be 100% running for many years, why wouldn't they want such a thing? But, let's also be real about the fact that we are not going to get something like that easily, it's going to be quite tough and why would they want to pay for something like that out of their own pockets?

It's also good to remind everyone that this is a tough business to be in and every dime matters, in a situation where we are expecting them to be like that, we are forgetting the fact that they are not spending money just on this, there are a million other places they have to spend that money on.

They've got the marketing team who are taking care of every advertisement that they feel that bringing them the traffics, I agree that they are not just spending money for nothing but they are also expecting a good return that will favor the business, whatever the plan we will keep hearing updates here in case that they will re-open the signature campaign.

If they see that spending portions of their profits from the business will help to bring more gamblers to visit and use Betfury platforms,
expect that we will see the campaign to be available back.

TheGreatPython

sr. member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 339

Quote from: Silberman on January 11, 2023, 03:13:45 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on January 11, 2023, 12:06:24 PM

You are right,casinos that runs signature campaigns continuously in the forum without stopping is benefiting more than those that just run it for awhile and stop. It is a strategy to show their loyalty to customers and their credibility.

They make more money because most signature campaign participants don't even have time to depend on this payment as they see it as a way to provide for their gambling habit,i.e they gamble with the SIG pay in the casino they are running signature campaign for. You pay me for a service and I use to money that you paid me to entertain myself in your casino. Betfury.io team should try and come back to continue with their campaign,for better promotion of their casino.

It is to be expected the owners and administrators of betfury know their situation way better than we do, if they are not promoting themselves in the forum through ads or a signature campaign it is not difficult to think a few reasons of why this is the case, a few of them are that they do not think it is necessary at the moment, they do not think they will obtain good results with it or simply they do not have the budget to do this at the moment.

It's just about the money, nothing more. Obviously they would love to have a signature campaign that would be 100% running for many years, why wouldn't they want such a thing? But, let's also be real about the fact that we are not going to get something like that easily, it's going to be quite tough and why would they want to pay for something like that out of their own pockets?

It's also good to remind everyone that this is a tough business to be in and every dime matters, in a situation where we are expecting them to be like that, we are forgetting the fact that they are not spending money just on this, there are a million other places they have to spend that money on.

babygun

sr. member

Activity: 2170

Merit: 254

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 13, 2023, 03:37:26 PM

You are absolutely right about this, and this is all that matters, as long as betfury continues to maintain a good reputation, even without promotions, I think their business will always go on, though not at a high rate compared to if they are running a promotion.

I don't want to continue the same discussion about this topic but they must have their reasons why they only run campaigns on here when there are special events. It makes sense in a way, because when there is a special event and they launch a signature campaign, you stand out again as people are not used to seeing the signatures of Betfury.

Fivestar4everMVP

legendary

Activity: 2422

Merit: 1083

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: len01 on January 13, 2023, 12:51:46 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on January 13, 2023, 01:37:25 AM

Quote from: len01 on January 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM

but it would be better if the campaign was continued to build good trust than before. so there is no doubt from the gamblers here.

Run a signature campaign and other promotions in this forum have nothing to do with the casino reputation, any project can create any promotions but it just help for brand awareness and attract people to gamble on their site. 1xbit is an example where they're not having any good reputation and still want to run signature campaign, there's no one can force them to stop because this forum doesn't moderate scam.

it's true that promotions and campaigns have nothing to do with the reputation of the gambling platform but I mean if Betfury continues their promotion campaign every gambler will have no doubts to gamble here especially new gamblers who want to register at Betfury. because sometimes someone hesitates to register on a gambling site where there is no promotion.

I think you are still saying the same thing, promotion is only for brand awareness. That is for people to get to know that such a company exist.
I personally do not see how a serious person who wants to sign up and gamble on betfury, will change their mind concerning that, all for the reason that betfury is not running promotional campaign, it simply means the user wasn't serious, to begin with.

Quote

but what is certain is that even though the campaign has stopped, the most important thing is that the Betfury board is still active here to answer all questions or complaints from customers who are here.

You are absolutely right about this, and this is all that matters, as long as betfury continues to maintain a good reputation, even without promotions, I think their business will always go on, though not at a high rate compared to if they are running a promotion.

abel1337

legendary

Activity: 2492

Merit: 1145

Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: arwin100 on January 13, 2023, 06:20:37 AM

1xbit still see this forum as good place to get large number of costumers so even if they have bad feedbacks coming from various people they still choose to run a campaign so that they can till get a exposure here. But since Betfury is somehow what we can look as reputable casino this campaign can help them since this could extend their exposure and as well many gambler might get redirect to their thread to create some good discussions about them.

In my observation, Betfury is just using the forum to launch their signature campaign once they have major event on the casino which is similar on how 1xbit utilize the forum whenever they have a promotion. The only difference was 1xbit has more promotion that being promote here using forum signature campaign while Betfury only choose major events that they will promote.

The advantage of 1xbit was they are connected to the popular brand 1xbet which many non crypto user still used. 1xbit is the number one choice of players that wants to try crypto casino that comes on 1xbet which is why they still have customer despite of there ruined reputation. A simple signature campaign here will erase there reputation when the user viewing there banner is not a forum user and just use the google to search for them.

We might not know but there's a chance that 1xbit members are just the people from 1xbit promoting their own casino and just post a signature campaign ad here to tell people here that they have a running campaign. I'm just speculating here but I wouldn't personally sacrifice the reputation here for joining something uncertain since 1xbit signature campaign could end anytime and joining 1xbit campaign would result you on getting a red trust. The casino industry is very tough nowadays that's why majority of the signature campaign here today are casinos and I believe that betfury will continue their signature campaign but yeah as you said they will just try to utilize it when they have an event going on.

Topic: 🎲BetFury.io|​​​💫 Stellar network & XLM 💫|📈BFG farming on BabySwap - page 130. (Read 85291 times)

Topic: 🎲BetFury.io|💫 Stellar network & XLM 💫|📈BFG farming on BabySwap - page 130. (Read 85291 times)