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legendary
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@O48O This is what I’m saying since Betfury pointed out before that Binance listing is totally free while in reality there’s a different type of listing that can be paid. The 200K BNB is not a direct listing fee but it serves same as that since the team needs to hold huge amount of BNB that they can’t access while there coin is listed.
Apparently they can't access to it after it's delisted either. Just one more reason not to even bother listing it. We have enough liquidity for decent amount of trades in biswap. If a whale wants to dump it in there we would just get the token cheaper.

And if this listing would make BFG price pumped higher for some reason in the markets, i couldn't think one reason of not selling now. Because it's not like we have any better fundamentals then. Imho the token is too valuable right now for me even considering buying it. Not until Betfury breaks their silence about the future of BFG and their plans to buy it from the markets and burning it.
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Binance has listed some projects without even knowing their investors right after their private sale, and these companies weren't trying to rise too much during their sale. White papers were just next level and so were the devs so they were taken seriously.

I just saw a recent tweet from Mithril Project that they are asking CZ to return their 200K BNB deposit as requirements for their token listing after their token recent delist. I’m positive this info is part of there NDA which Mithril already break since there partnership is already over so there’s no way for them to lie about this info. Binance is really charging a huge fee in the form of buying huge amount of BNB (by that time was 8$ per BNB).

You can check the tweet post on this link https://twitter.com/mithdotio/status/1603356872303865856?s=20&t=5hIis_1XvXWNjdQh0ubVVg

This is what I’m talking about when I said that Binance is charging fee on projects to be listed. The only exemption to this was if the project is in demand like what @fivestar mentioned and explained on the above post. There’s a lot of project that aiming to meet Binance standards to list for free and most of them already took too many years and counting to meet those requirements since they can’t afford to pay.

@O48O This is what I’m saying since Betfury pointed out before that Binance listing is totally free while in reality there’s a different type of listing that can be paid. The 200K BNB is not a direct listing fee but it serves same as that since the team needs to hold huge amount of BNB that they can’t access while there coin is listed.
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Hello,

As you have an answer for all questions cause you all know your subject, could you explain why the BFG reachs such price? It's the lower price or so since the launch of BFG. So who are the sellers at this level? It's the Dev team who got free BFG who can afford to sell at the shitty price?

The listing price was at 0.07$. During the last 6 months BFG price change between 0.025 and 0.015. So who sell at 0.012? The price was never been so low and strangely people sell. 2 options : They sell in red or they sell in green cause they got millions of free BFG.
We can track (some) orders on Vulkania. I guess there aren't all there cause I saw a lot of buying orders for several millions of BFG and despite that the price goes down.

PS : I can't login since thursday evening. It's saturday morning and still can't. Access denied for my country. It's been 2 years I use Betfury. You have the same problem?

Thank your for your answers.

You can find your answer when you browse the tokenomics of BFG tokens. They do token sales and those early investors same as the team was liquidating there tokens in exchange for fiat. Team is using BFG tokens for marketing through airdrop and giveaways with there partner. There’s a lot of potential people that will sell BFG tokens which makes the price dumps hard.

Betfury casino profit right now is still not enough to balance the price of BFG tokens since sell pressure is still higher than buy pressure. Only few wants to buy BFG right due to the fact that many Betfury players earns it as rakeback and dumps it immediately on exchange.
legendary
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As you have an answer for all questions cause you all know your subject, could you explain why the BFG reachs such price? It's the lower price or so since the launch of BFG. So who are the sellers at this level? It's the Dev team who got free BFG who can afford to sell at the shitty price?
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Price of the tokens go down with the dividends that are going down. And dividends are the main reason people are holding the tokens. And if you count them dropping this rate for a year, it's smarter to sell now then after a year for example. This of course only depends how their tokenomics look like in the future, and basically people who are buying that there would be a positive answer to that in near future.

PS : I can't login since thursday evening. It's saturday morning and still can't. Access denied for my country. It's been 2 years I use Betfury. You have the same problem?

Mine works perfectly fine, are you using VPN and where do you live?
newbie
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Hello,

As you have an answer for all questions cause you all know your subject, could you explain why the BFG reachs such price? It's the lower price or so since the launch of BFG. So who are the sellers at this level? It's the Dev team who got free BFG who can afford to sell at the shitty price?

The listing price was at 0.07$. During the last 6 months BFG price change between 0.025 and 0.015. So who sell at 0.012? The price was never been so low and strangely people sell. 2 options : They sell in red or they sell in green cause they got millions of free BFG.
We can track (some) orders on Vulkania. I guess there aren't all there cause I saw a lot of buying orders for several millions of BFG and despite that the price goes down.

PS : I can't login since thursday evening. It's saturday morning and still can't. Access denied for my country. It's been 2 years I use Betfury. You have the same problem?

Thank your for your answers.
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According to how i understand binance listing to work, project are charged differently depending on their level of achievements and number of supporter/community backing the project, a project with really huge community stand a chance of getting their token  listed on binance for free, I think shiba inu is a good example .
And also a project which really solves real life problems and have achieved a great deal in building out their technology could also stand a chance of getting listed on binance for free or for a very minimal fee.
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This might be the case. While i think that Befury could have a bright future, they would need to step up their game for listing to Binance. Because i can find few obvious reasons why BFG couldn't get listed.

1. Future or endgame of BFG tokenomics is vague at best. We know thy are burning it now, but i haven't seen them committed to anything in the future. This is what troubles me most in the token.
2. Support team is transparent but core team itself remains opaque for reasons i don't even want to speculate, but it increases the overall shadiness.
3. No legal team.
what to pursue so that you force yourself to be listed on binance, we know the binance exchange is the largest crypto exchange, instead of burning a lot of money for listing on binance, they can use the money for development, marketing and other alternatives from on forced circumstances
legendary
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According to how i understand binance listing to work, project are charged differently depending on their level of achievements and number of supporter/community backing the project, a project with really huge community stand a chance of getting their token  listed on binance for free, I think shiba inu is a good example .
And also a project which really solves real life problems and have achieved a great deal in building out their technology could also stand a chance of getting listed on binance for free or for a very minimal fee.
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This might be the case. While i think that Befury could have a bright future, they would need to step up their game for listing to Binance. Because i can find few obvious reasons why BFG couldn't get listed.

1. Future or endgame of BFG tokenomics is vague at best. We know thy are burning it now, but i haven't seen them committed to anything in the future. This is what troubles me most in the token.
2. Support team is transparent but core team itself remains opaque for reasons i don't even want to speculate, but it increases the overall shadiness.
3. No legal team.
sr. member
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this site is a scumbag, what a fraud, moderators are clowns without knowledge, suckers, I do not recommend this shit
hello what problem are you facing? I play at betfurry without burden and problems, deposits and withdrawals are done quickly, my experience playing at betfurry is quite satisfying

can you tell me about your problem?
Don't mind him. It's just like throw-away account to create spam about betfury. He is might be just lose on betfury , then blame the site because of his greed. You can see he only has 3 post, and the first was about betfury as well on this April.

All casinos here are competing each other some of them may have some plans of destroying other's reputation or he could be telling the truth but it's hard to believe for just $880 that Betfury will ruin itself.

Once all of them are mined, no new BFG will enter circulation. Therefore, when all tokens are emitted, this will increase the value of BFG, since new tokens will not enter the market, and existing ones will be burned periodically. Currently, BFG has many utility opportunities: Staking, playing, getting bonuses, and trading. Then the only way to get BFG tokens will be to exchange them.
I am hoping that this is a promise you are going to keep, as this totally changes my whole perspective on BFG tokenomics.

What do you think are the main reasons why people would keep playing in Betfury without mining incentives? I mean there are ton of good casinos out there so what's your gimmick that would make people choose to keep coming in here without mining that made this somewhat a special place? Or is there some secret marketing tactic you can't yet reveal?

They do have a good plan and they have been burning tokens too. We'll just find out what will happen after all tokens are mined.
The gimmick I guess is the betfury free boxes? 17 sats, can they even withdraw if someone patiently claims them for a year?



I have the same question "why would betfury ruin its reputation over 900 dollars?

Tbh I don't know how the burning of BFG tokens took place and/or going to take place in the future, do you mean there will be no reward for miners if all the tokens of BFG are mined? or does BFG token doesn't require mining? sorry but I'm a noob when it comes to BFG tokens.

legendary
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I just saw a recent tweet from Mithril Project that they are asking CZ to return their 200K BNB deposit as requirements for their token listing after their token recent delist. I’m positive this info is part of there NDA which Mithril already break since there partnership is already over so there’s no way for them to lie about this info. Binance is really charging a huge fee in the form of buying huge amount of BNB (by that time was 8$ per BNB).

You can check the tweet post on this link https://twitter.com/mithdotio/status/1603356872303865856?s=20&t=5hIis_1XvXWNjdQh0ubVVg
Ok that seems weird. So according to Mithril it's a security deposit that they get back, not a listing fee?

What i find weird is that (i don't know the exact specifics because of NDA) least one of the companies i know got listed almost free if i have understood correctly.
According to how i understand binance listing to work, project are charged differently depending on their level of achievements and number of supporter/community backing the project, a project with really huge community stand a chance of getting their token  listed on binance for free, I think shiba inu is a good example .
And also a project which really solves real life problems and have achieved a great deal in building out their technology could also stand a chance of getting listed on binance for free or for a very minimal fee.

But like I also understand it, there are other projects that really have a lot of money and want a fast track listing, some projects in this category are the ones we term as pump and dump, on listing, the price of the coin pumps to insane amount, the team and the early investors cash out big leaving the new/late buyers of that token to suffer a loss the token could possibly never recover from, this are the type of projects that spend millions of dollars paying for binance listing, any serious project would not spend such an insane amount of money just on listing.
legendary
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I just saw a recent tweet from Mithril Project that they are asking CZ to return their 200K BNB deposit as requirements for their token listing after their token recent delist. I’m positive this info is part of there NDA which Mithril already break since there partnership is already over so there’s no way for them to lie about this info. Binance is really charging a huge fee in the form of buying huge amount of BNB (by that time was 8$ per BNB).

You can check the tweet post on this link https://twitter.com/mithdotio/status/1603356872303865856?s=20&t=5hIis_1XvXWNjdQh0ubVVg
Ok that seems weird. So according to Mithril it's a security deposit that they get back, not a listing fee?

What i find weird is that (i don't know the exact specifics because of NDA) least one of the companies i know got listed almost free if i have understood correctly. And they sure as hell didn't raise so much in the private sale where they could afford $1,6M in bnb for listing fees / security deposit.

They just ended up minting little more of their tokens in BSC as part of the deal i suppose, but that's all.
legendary
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Well, but not everything is bad, in any negative scenario like the one we are in now where the market is completely bearish (for a certain period of time) it is good, because if it is listed at this time, that the market is low, when bitcoin price rises, the price of the token will most likely rise, and it rises by simple nature, there is also an advantage, the casino gives more security in terms of projects, a casino that carries out a project with a currency or token or a project that is based on Ico or something similar, I think that this is the advantage that Betfury has not yet finished taking advantage of, in addition they were forgotten with their community, there is no internal forum, there is no incentive for the most Betfury fans stand up for the site.

I still think BFG listing on any major exchange wouldn't be the best decision in the current bearish trend. Of course, a listing on an exchange like Binance would give additional liquidity, but it's unlikely that the BFG token would grow significantly because of that. As for the community, I wouldn't say Betfury has a problem with that because its marketing team promotes the platform on many social networks.
hero member
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Binance has listed some projects without even knowing their investors right after their private sale, and these companies weren't trying to rise too much during their sale. White papers were just next level and so were the devs so they were taken seriously.

I just saw a recent tweet from Mithril Project that they are asking CZ to return their 200K BNB deposit as requirements for their token listing after their token recent delist. I’m positive this info is part of there NDA which Mithril already break since there partnership is already over so there’s no way for them to lie about this info. Binance is really charging a huge fee in the form of buying huge amount of BNB (by that time was 8$ per BNB).

You can check the tweet post on this link https://twitter.com/mithdotio/status/1603356872303865856?s=20&t=5hIis_1XvXWNjdQh0ubVVg
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Hard to get casino tokens listed on exchanges. There was a memorandum back in 2020 about it blockchain base games in which regulators need to add new rules because of the new technology underlying it. I was fairly watching one casino token where I have invested before which is the $HASH and a DEX had delisted them due to legal issues.
legendary
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I think most bots are easily detected because their activity on the site is always different from the activity of regular users. Obviously, if someone claims free boxes 24 times a day, that should at least make the Betfury suspicious. So let's hope that the Betfury team has a good enough algorithm to identify bots, otherwise, the current free BTC box will be a godsend for abusers.

Well, I hope you guys are right but we will need to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if Betfury would decide to cut their rewards again if they see too much abuse. Most of these members will be vip 1, so one solution could be to make the faucet only available for vip 2 or higher.

Well, I want to make a purchase here, and it is not to be something bad or to be misinterpreted, what happens is that there are some people who dedicate themselves to doing almost 24-hour work to give a reward in a faucet, it is Incredible, but it can happen, obviously 24 hours a day they must use a bot that allows them to make claims, but I do not consider that Betfury will reduce its recommendation box, because we only see the case of freebitco.in, which is a platform He considers having all possible clients enter and click on it to obtain their reward and they are aware that they will not remove it for that reason, so I think they should consider betgfury to do something like that.


Well, right now all this regarding the Betfury Token, the BFG is being talked about a lot, some investors are thinking about what to do, whether to continue with the investment or not? Of course, this is due to recent problems, when one of the platforms has a disagreement, things can be difficult, in addition, the BFG has been handled at a level that most people have not wanted, it is known that the future of all coins and tokens is that they are in the best exchanges, and when a team ignores this, most of them leave or leave it, this is due to the large number of projects that are listed in the best exchanges.


Last I heard is that they are still trying to get the BFG listed on Binance (what everybody wants) but with the recent problems in the market it might take longer than expected. The only other gambling token that is listed on Binance is FUN token but they were already listed long before freebitco.in took it over also.
When the market enters a bullish period there might be an opportunity for many coins or tokens to enter the binance exchange, especially if the coin e.g. BFG can still perform well or provide something that can be attractive to Binance, because the exchange will only listed coins that can also make an impact on the trading volume of the exchange.

Well, but not everything is bad, in any negative scenario like the one we are in now where the market is completely bearish (for a certain period of time) it is good, because if it is listed at this time, that the market is low, when bitcoin price rises, the price of the token will most likely rise, and it rises by simple nature, there is also an advantage, the casino gives more security in terms of projects, a casino that carries out a project with a currency or token or a project that is based on Ico or something similar, I think that this is the advantage that Betfury has not yet finished taking advantage of, in addition they were forgotten with their community, there is no internal forum, there is no incentive for the most Betfury fans stand up for the site.
legendary
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You will only liked by Binance to list in there exchange if your project is huge and backed by well known investors. In short money still play the most important part in able to list. Aptos is the best example here. This project is just shitcoin when they started but they just immediately listed on top exchange right after they got tons of funding from private investors.

There’s a lot of solid existing project that still didn’t list on Binance not because they lack support from there community but they have limited funds for there marketing and etc. CZ only look on how profitable the project for them and we don’t know exactly the listing terms since it’s NDA. CZ word on social doesn’t back by legit source aside from trust me bro.
Binance has listed some projects without even knowing their investors right after their private sale, and these companies weren't trying to rise too much during their sale. White papers were just next level and so were the devs so they were taken seriously. I don't think that betfury would gain from this listing either, they are already making money with gambling and want to burn their own tokens. And frankly price inflation at this point wouldn't make sense. There should at least be an option to get your money back by staking. This wouldn't happen if price would be $5 per BFG
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Many tokens listed on Binance the moment they finished there IDO. So that means that new project can complete all Binance requirements quickly while project like Betfury can’t? They are denying the listing fee on Binance but base on my observation only project with good amount of funding can be listed on Binance. Is they just wanna hide the fact that they are not willing to pay the fee?
It's not only about the money.
CZ has stated this in the past that no amount of money will help get you listed if they don't like the coin/token that should be listed.
(Well not in those exact words). Listing in binance cold bring the price up but as there already is instrict value behind the token, the change in tokenomics should be enough if the money flow to betfury keeps coming. However there's a change that would change after mining period is over. We are going to me uncharted waters then, and because i don't know the specifics of future burning plans, everything i can do is to guess.

You will only liked by Binance to list in there exchange if your project is huge and backed by well known investors. In short money still play the most important part in able to list. Aptos is the best example here. This project is just shitcoin when they started but they just immediately listed on top exchange right after they got tons of funding from private investors.

There’s a lot of solid existing project that still didn’t list on Binance not because they lack support from there community but they have limited funds for there marketing and etc. CZ only look on how profitable the project for them and we don’t know exactly the listing terms since it’s NDA. CZ word on social doesn’t back by legit source aside from trust me bro.

sr. member
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When the market enters a bullish period there might be an opportunity for many coins or tokens to enter the binance exchange, especially if the coin e.g. BFG can still perform well or provide something that can be attractive to Binance, because the exchange will only listed coins that can also make an impact on the trading volume of the exchange.
It is easier to go higher when there is a bull period but you have to remember that everything else will go up as well during the same period, which means that we shouldn't be shocked to see BFG not getting listed even during bull period because there could be other things that will go up. That is why it is so important and so much cared about.

I personally believe that the best thing to do would be just letting the token be whatever it is already and liking for what it is right now, not when bull run happens. If you keep hoping for a better future constantly, like something that would make it better than what it is now, then you might get disappointed.
legendary
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Many tokens listed on Binance the moment they finished there IDO. So that means that new project can complete all Binance requirements quickly while project like Betfury can’t? They are denying the listing fee on Binance but base on my observation only project with good amount of funding can be listed on Binance. Is they just wanna hide the fact that they are not willing to pay the fee?
It's not only about the money.
CZ has stated this in the past that no amount of money will help get you listed if they don't like the coin/token that should be listed.
(Well not in those exact words). Listing in binance cold bring the price up but as there already is instrict value behind the token, the change in tokenomics should be enough if the money flow to betfury keeps coming. However there's a change that would change after mining period is over. We are going to me uncharted waters then, and because i don't know the specifics of future burning plans, everything i can do is to guess.
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Well, right now all this regarding the Betfury Token, the BFG is being talked about a lot, some investors are thinking about what to do, whether to continue with the investment or not? Of course, this is due to recent problems, when one of the platforms has a disagreement, things can be difficult, in addition, the BFG has been handled at a level that most people have not wanted, it is known that the future of all coins and tokens is that they are in the best exchanges, and when a team ignores this, most of them leave or leave it, this is due to the large number of projects that are listed in the best exchanges.


Last I heard is that they are still trying to get the BFG listed on Binance (what everybody wants) but with the recent problems in the market it might take longer than expected. The only other gambling token that is listed on Binance is FUN token but they were already listed long before freebitco.in took it over also.

I think every project and casino with their own utility token is targeting to be list on Binance but the only problem is when exactly they will complete the requirements to be listed in there. All projects tells the generic answer to this listing question that they are already doing it but there’s no timeline or proof that they are really doing it.

Many tokens listed on Binance the moment they finished there IDO. So that means that new project can complete all Binance requirements quickly while project like Betfury can’t? They are denying the listing fee on Binance but base on my observation only project with good amount of funding can be listed on Binance. Is they just wanna hide the fact that they are not willing to pay the fee?
legendary
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You just need to understand that as long as the business is moving and there are still gamblers who continue to play using the site you will continue to earn your share, the sample calculations will be used as reference though the actual will be on the site and the team who offer this revenue share for all the investors.

Understanding the concept and continue doing business by playing and bringing your friends to play will help if you are also an investor who's willing to take the long road.
That is always a good thing but this creates a dilemma that has been talked here before. If we are making a profit from gamblers losing, that means the creators of this website are earning less from it, doesn't mean they get nothing, it just means they don't get 100% of it back, we are getting some of that.

However, if we are talking about marketing, then it is not done by us, which means while getting less money because we are getting a share, they also have to spend some of their money to also do marketing as well, which means even less left for them, and promotions and bonuses and expenses to run a casino etc etc. All in all, it causes a bit of trouble for the team for sure.

Marketing always have a good slice with how the team works to attract more gamblers to use the site, understanding the benefits and the flow of the business, marketing is important to make sure that the ecosystem will continue to move forward. I see your point and investors and followers will always see that way, the benefits to earn is always possible if you understand the concepts and you are willing to take the long road with the team.
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