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One thing with campaign (and by campaign, I assume forum signature) is that its best when it's done long term, yes, it cost money and all that, but then, it wins more customers for the casino if it's the campaign is allowed to run for the long term, check out all the casinos that have their campaign running since God knows when, they are all doing fine..

But then again, I still agree with your that every casino have their marketing term and it's up to them to research and know what marketing strategies fits their business, maybe based on marketing budget/allocation available to the marketing team.

Of course, signature campaigns are effective in the long run, while short campaigns lasting just a couple of weeks have almost no effect. In the case of Betfury, we see that its marketing team is not particularly fond of long signature campaigns on this forum and prefers to promote its platform through social networks. However, they don't refuse to promote Betfury on this forum completely, but even if they decide to launch new signature campaigns, they only do it during some big events, as it was a couple of times last year.
every casino business in this forum is different, some have the goal of continuing to run campaigns here if they have achieved their target goals, some are just planning to promote through other means that make a better contribution to the casino itself.
I mean maybe BetFury has other goals to market somewhere else that's easier for him to plan things out.
because there's no way the casinos on this forum have a signature campaign to survive if they don't plan something from scratch.

so they have their own way to promote their company
Understandable as they have marketing team who are working in this matter maybe they are planning or they've got other things in mind to work with their promotions, or as like how they are doing it before, they are assessing and will soon offer it again once they have some promotional events to gain gamblers and investors attentions.

For now, only them who really have that answer in terms of not bringing the campaign yet.

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One thing with campaign (and by campaign, I assume forum signature) is that its best when it's done long term, yes, it cost money and all that, but then, it wins more customers for the casino if it's the campaign is allowed to run for the long term, check out all the casinos that have their campaign running since God knows when, they are all doing fine..

But then again, I still agree with your that every casino have their marketing term and it's up to them to research and know what marketing strategies fits their business, maybe based on marketing budget/allocation available to the marketing team.

Of course, signature campaigns are effective in the long run, while short campaigns lasting just a couple of weeks have almost no effect. In the case of Betfury, we see that its marketing team is not particularly fond of long signature campaigns on this forum and prefers to promote its platform through social networks. However, they don't refuse to promote Betfury on this forum completely, but even if they decide to launch new signature campaigns, they only do it during some big events, as it was a couple of times last year.
every casino business in this forum is different, some have the goal of continuing to run campaigns here if they have achieved their target goals, some are just planning to promote through other means that make a better contribution to the casino itself.
I mean maybe BetFury has other goals to market somewhere else that's easier for him to plan things out.
because there's no way the casinos on this forum have a signature campaign to survive if they don't plan something from scratch.

so they have their own way to promote their company
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Do not forget that the issuance of a Curacao license by any casino is a fairly successful commercial enterprise, which was originally conceived as a rather formal check of the casino's accounts and the issuance of a corresponding certificate, license.  I don't think that the bosses of this commercial enterprise, even with the involvement of government officials of Curacao, will refuse to issue a license based on arguments such as issuing their own casino token.  In general, I think they do not consider this as some kind of serious violation leading to the deception of the players of this casino. 
And let's not forget that the bosses of the licensing authority themselves, on this basis, cannot receive and lose several tens of thousands of dollars for some beautiful piece of paper of a license - this is simply stupid.
I do agree that it is not going to be token based or care about the token or anything like that, they see that as a separate business under the same name and not the same business. I mean the license is for the games, which means if you gamble and there is a rigged game where casino scams you, the license will be revoked, and I have to say they are pretty legit as well as Curacao could have made a lot more money by just accepting bribe from casinos, and yet they still revoke the licenses of rigged casinos.

This is why I believe that it means something, doesn't mean all the ones that have license is legit, that's why some of them get it revoked, but it's good to have at least.
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One thing with campaign (and by campaign, I assume forum signature) is that its best when it's done long term, yes, it cost money and all that, but then, it wins more customers for the casino if it's the campaign is allowed to run for the long term, check out all the casinos that have their campaign running since God knows when, they are all doing fine..

But then again, I still agree with your that every casino have their marketing term and it's up to them to research and know what marketing strategies fits their business, maybe based on marketing budget/allocation available to the marketing team.

Of course, signature campaigns are effective in the long run, while short campaigns lasting just a couple of weeks have almost no effect. In the case of Betfury, we see that its marketing team is not particularly fond of long signature campaigns on this forum and prefers to promote its platform through social networks. However, they don't refuse to promote Betfury on this forum completely, but even if they decide to launch new signature campaigns, they only do it during some big events, as it was a couple of times last year.
legendary
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sadly betfury closed the signature campaign on this forum but if only they knew that there is a lot to be gained by campaigning for casino on this forum in the long term i'm sure betfruy has the funds and also a great marketing team i think the betfury marketing team can think about campaign on this forum in the future because many casino examples you mentioned above have also succeeded from this forum.
They seem to be satisfied with the result and it did helped them to gather more users and investors into their platform.

Running a long term campaign is desirable and will give the benefits that the other casinos that has ran a campaign for a long time and then saw the impact for their casinos.

With or without budget issues, they know what's best for them and they've ran campaigns several times so, it is for them to decide to have one again in the future and still stick to the plan of having it short term.
One thing with campaign (and by campaign, I assume forum signature) is that its best when it's done long term, yes, it cost money and all that, but then, it wins more customers for the casino if it's the campaign is allowed to run for the long term, check out all the casinos that have their campaign running since God knows when, they are all doing fine..

But then again, I still agree with your that every casino have their marketing term and it's up to them to research and know what marketing strategies fits their business, maybe based on marketing budget/allocation available to the marketing team.
legendary
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sadly betfury closed the signature campaign on this forum but if only they knew that there is a lot to be gained by campaigning for casino on this forum in the long term i'm sure betfruy has the funds and also a great marketing team i think the betfury marketing team can think about campaign on this forum in the future because many casino examples you mentioned above have also succeeded from this forum.
They seem to be satisfied with the result and it did helped them to gather more users and investors into their platform.

Running a long term campaign is desirable and will give the benefits that the other casinos that has ran a campaign for a long time and then saw the impact for their casinos.

With or without budget issues, they know what's best for them and they've ran campaigns several times so, it is for them to decide to have one again in the future and still stick to the plan of having it short term.


The decision is on the marketing side, if whatever they think about how to gather more gamblers to play and use their services everything is under the marketing managements, I'm positive that they've got the budget if they really going to push on doing it, but there're assessments and analysis that needs to take place before the team will decide whether they will going to allocate the budget for the campaign or use it in the other forms of marketing.
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I think when you consider that most of us are getting the profit from the casino itself, then it is normal for the team to not have that much money to spend on marketing. Think about it, we are talking about a situation where all the BFG token holders are getting the dividends, then where could the team make any profit from?

Not the casino losers, not the token because if they keep selling then their own token would go down in value, it is literally the tokens they once sold and that's it, there is nothing more. At the end of the day we are not going to see the team spend millions on anything, they claimed they did, but that's about it, not going to happen again.
But it is that every movement that Betfury has made is their fault, I have also seen that the money that is invested in marketing is never lost, at this time the investment plans with the tokens are known to be not profitable at all and that the things can Sometimes turn out to be a little Different, here if they have problems it is their Fault, not the system that is used to benefit them, by now they must or Should have a great action or recovery plan, otherwise the Things couldn't happen any Other way.
That's the point, the token could be their responsibility but they do not make much money from the website itself, because casino profits are divided to us, sure they get a little but not a ton and that is why they do not have too much marketing budget. I believe that would be a trouble in the long run and I feel like it's not going to be a simple issue at all to do so.

I hope that people end up with something much better using their own marketing by going around and shilling it, that would be a better way and cheaper way, but even the holders are saying it's not a good idea to buy it so how could it go up? I think the failure wouldn't be just because of the teams lack of marketing but also us as well.
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sadly betfury closed the signature campaign on this forum but if only they knew that there is a lot to be gained by campaigning for casino on this forum in the long term i'm sure betfruy has the funds and also a great marketing team i think the betfury marketing team can think about campaign on this forum in the future because many casino examples you mentioned above have also succeeded from this forum.
They seem to be satisfied with the result and it did helped them to gather more users and investors into their platform.

Running a long term campaign is desirable and will give the benefits that the other casinos that has ran a campaign for a long time and then saw the impact for their casinos.

With or without budget issues, they know what's best for them and they've ran campaigns several times so, it is for them to decide to have one again in the future and still stick to the plan of having it short term.
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sadly betfury closed the signature campaign on this forum but if only they knew that there is a lot to be gained by campaigning for casino on this forum in the long term i'm sure betfruy has the funds and also a great marketing team i think the betfury marketing team can think about campaign on this forum in the future because many casino examples you mentioned above have also succeeded from this forum.

They usually run short-term campaigns that are timed to coincide with some major event. Apparently they are completely satisfied with this state of affairs.
They apparently focus on attracting as many users as possible.
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Yes, the truth is, the Only thing is that these things Serve to start again in order to be the best, we must remember that here in this area the competition is very strong, if they want to be the best they have to do things like the best You just have to see the Marketing that stake.com, Duelbits, Roobet, Bitcasino.io has, among other casinos, is impressive, it is also reflected in their Ann threads, they are Always very active and Offering more and more Bonuses, more Promotions that adapt to all Types of players, this is something that they Should not forget anymore.

sadly betfury closed the signature campaign on this forum but if only they knew that there is a lot to be gained by campaigning for casino on this forum in the long term i'm sure betfruy has the funds and also a great marketing team i think the betfury marketing team can think about campaign on this forum in the future because many casino examples you mentioned above have also succeeded from this forum.
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Well, even though it's a great solution, I don't rule it out, but as far as I'm concerned , a casino like Betfury should listen, yes, I see that you want to do something similar to stake.com and I don't blame you, it's one of the casinos that are most respected worldwide and have an immense reputation, the casino is very reliable, but if Betfury wants to match this casino, it lacks a lot, it may be that with an influencer it begins to get closer, but BETFURY does not invest in arketing doesn't even have the desire to do it, aside from remembering that stake.com has its own internal forum and many gaming issues are discussed there, there are many things that stake.com has ahead of Betfury.

Betfury even has a marketing team, but I think they are spending money on marketing carefully, trying to find the best way to promote the project. By the way, it's worth noting that 10 % of the total BFG emission was initially allocated for marketing, which is equivalent to 9.5 million at the current BFG exchange rate. That should be more than enough to promote the brand in social networks, forums, streaming platforms, or anywhere else on the Internet, but it's probably not enough to promote the brand offline. I mean, Betfury can hardly afford to put its logo on a jersey of some famous soccer club or on stadium banners.

Yes, the truth is, the Only thing is that these things Serve to start again in order to be the best, we must remember that here in this area the competition is very strong, if they want to be the best they have to do things like the best You just have to see the Marketing that stake.com, Duelbits, Roobet, Bitcasino.io has, among other casinos, is impressive, it is also reflected in their Ann threads, they are Always very active and Offering more and more Bonuses, more Promotions that adapt to all Types of players, this is something that they Should not forget anymore.
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On the norm, casinos do not need a token of their own, but because crypto is not regulated, any body or business can wake up anytime and create a token, list it on an exchange, and then it becomes a speculative token to investors, where as for real, the token as no usecase.

I also don't see any need for a casino to create its own token. Today I was thinking about this: "would the curacao regulators responsible for granting licenses to casinos allow a casino to create tokens and distribute them to customers?". because in my opinion when curacao licenses a casino they are counting on the casino to receive deposits of cryptocurrencies and therefore each customer will have to go through KYC to prevent money laundering and I also believe that the casino to obtain a license must submit documents the authority of curacao

From what I've heard and learnt from research and other users of this forum, Curaçao license is the most simplest to get, I personally do not think a casino with only this license is qualified to be considered as a regulated casino, since from what I've leant, any casino can apply for a Curaçao license online, and get it in the shortest period of time, as long as the necessary fees is paid by the casino, I don't think casino owners are required to submit any documents proving their identity, before such Casino obtains Curaçao license.

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now let's see, when the casino creates its own token and distributes it to customers, could it be that with that the casino would no longer be circumventing money laundering laws? because with this movement the casino owners could already be laundering money, so I think that the guys from curacao would not license a casino that has its own token, someone correct me if I'm wrong, curacao allows to license the casino that has created its own token? maybe people who understand very well about curacao licenses and token laws can correct me in case i am wrong
I don't know very much on how this thing works, but from my personal observations, and based on what I already explained about getting Curaçao license above, I don't think they really care whether the casino has their own crypto coin or not, the Casino will surly get its license as long as the fees required are paid, and on time.
Do not forget that the issuance of a Curacao license by any casino is a fairly successful commercial enterprise, which was originally conceived as a rather formal check of the casino's accounts and the issuance of a corresponding certificate, license.  I don't think that the bosses of this commercial enterprise, even with the involvement of government officials of Curacao, will refuse to issue a license based on arguments such as issuing their own casino token.  In general, I think they do not consider this as some kind of serious violation leading to the deception of the players of this casino. 
And let's not forget that the bosses of the licensing authority themselves, on this basis, cannot receive and lose several tens of thousands of dollars for some beautiful piece of paper of a license - this is simply stupid.
legendary
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On the norm, casinos do not need a token of their own, but because crypto is not regulated, any body or business can wake up anytime and create a token, list it on an exchange, and then it becomes a speculative token to investors, where as for real, the token as no usecase.

I also don't see any need for a casino to create its own token. Today I was thinking about this: "would the curacao regulators responsible for granting licenses to casinos allow a casino to create tokens and distribute them to customers?". because in my opinion when curacao licenses a casino they are counting on the casino to receive deposits of cryptocurrencies and therefore each customer will have to go through KYC to prevent money laundering and I also believe that the casino to obtain a license must submit documents the authority of curacao

From what I've heard and learnt from research and other users of this forum, Curaçao license is the most simplest to get, I personally do not think a casino with only this license is qualified to be considered as a regulated casino, since from what I've leant, any casino can apply for a Curaçao license online, and get it in the shortest period of time, as long as the necessary fees is paid by the casino, I don't think casino owners are required to submit any documents proving their identity, before such Casino obtains Curaçao license.

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now let's see, when the casino creates its own token and distributes it to customers, could it be that with that the casino would no longer be circumventing money laundering laws? because with this movement the casino owners could already be laundering money, so I think that the guys from curacao would not license a casino that has its own token, someone correct me if I'm wrong, curacao allows to license the casino that has created its own token? maybe people who understand very well about curacao licenses and token laws can correct me in case i am wrong
I don't know very much on how this thing works, but from my personal observations, and based on what I already explained about getting Curaçao license above, I don't think they really care whether the casino has their own crypto coin or not, the Casino will surly get its license as long as the fees required are paid, and on time.
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On the norm, casinos do not need a token of their own, but because crypto is not regulated, any body or business can wake up anytime and create a token, list it on an exchange, and then it becomes a speculative token to investors, where as for real, the token as no usecase.

I also don't see any need for a casino to create its own token. Today I was thinking about this: "would the curacao regulators responsible for granting licenses to casinos allow a casino to create tokens and distribute them to customers?". because in my opinion when curacao licenses a casino they are counting on the casino to receive deposits of cryptocurrencies and therefore each customer will have to go through KYC to prevent money laundering and I also believe that the casino to obtain a license must submit documents the authority of curacao

now let's see, when the casino creates its own token and distributes it to customers, could it be that with that the casino would no longer be circumventing money laundering laws? because with this movement the casino owners could already be laundering money, so I think that the guys from curacao would not license a casino that has its own token, someone correct me if I'm wrong, curacao allows to license the casino that has created its own token? maybe people who understand very well about curacao licenses and token laws can correct me in case i am wrong
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I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.
I agree, but what other use cases there would be for BFG than staking (if by staking you mean getting dividends from casino profits). It was the only reason the whole token was build.
My problem isn't with advertising (although they could be doing more) and the fact that only use case is staking. Mine is the fact that future of the tokenomics of it are unclear.
Staking and getting dividends as only use case is fine to me.
With all sincerity, I think one of the flaws that casino tokens has is lack of proper usecase, for me, I do not consider staking and getting dividends as a usecase, would have made sense of there was other tangible usecases through which the tokens can be of great value in terms of price.

On the norm, casinos do not need a token of their own, but because crypto is not regulated, any body or business can wake up anytime and create a token, list it on an exchange, and then it becomes a speculative token to investors, where as for real, the token as no usecase.
legendary
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I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.
I agree, but what other use cases there would be for BFG than staking (if by staking you mean getting dividends from casino profits). It was the only reason the whole token was build.
My problem isn't with advertising (although they could be doing more) and the fact that only use case is staking. Mine is the fact that future of the tokenomics of it are unclear.
Staking and getting dividends as only use case is fine to me.
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I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.
For sure they are reading the discussion happen on this thread and maybe they don't have enough fundings to spend on that matter that's why people don't see any marketing happen to boost the BFG token. To long for this token without good interaction so maybe its best if they could release some good updates to convince or gather new investor to support their project also their token.
I think when you consider that most of us are getting the profit from the casino itself, then it is normal for the team to not have that much money to spend on marketing. Think about it, we are talking about a situation where all the BFG token holders are getting the dividends, then where could the team make any profit from?

Not the casino losers, not the token because if they keep selling then their own token would go down in value, it is literally the tokens they once sold and that's it, there is nothing more. At the end of the day we are not going to see the team spend millions on anything, they claimed they did, but that's about it, not going to happen again.

But it is that every movement that Betfury has made is their fault, I have also seen that the money that is invested in marketing is never lost, at this time the investment plans with the tokens are known to be not profitable at all and that the things can Sometimes turn out to be a little Different, here if they have problems it is their Fault, not the system that is used to benefit them, by now they must or Should have a great action or recovery plan, otherwise the Things couldn't happen any Other way.
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I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.
For sure they are reading the discussion happen on this thread and maybe they don't have enough fundings to spend on that matter that's why people don't see any marketing happen to boost the BFG token. To long for this token without good interaction so maybe its best if they could release some good updates to convince or gather new investor to support their project also their token.
I think when you consider that most of us are getting the profit from the casino itself, then it is normal for the team to not have that much money to spend on marketing. Think about it, we are talking about a situation where all the BFG token holders are getting the dividends, then where could the team make any profit from?

Not the casino losers, not the token because if they keep selling then their own token would go down in value, it is literally the tokens they once sold and that's it, there is nothing more. At the end of the day we are not going to see the team spend millions on anything, they claimed they did, but that's about it, not going to happen again.
Money and advertising: two sides of the same coin. Are they really so significant? We BFG token holders aren't in it for the money; we're in it for the experience and the community

The team certainly can't ignore the issue simply because they lack millions to spend on advertisements. Finding a happy medium between financial success and customer satisfaction is key. They need to hear us out, consider our suggestions, and adjust their marketing strategy accordingly

But let's take a step back, people. We live in a trustworthy, open, and equitable community. Boosting those ideas and getting the word out about this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity is on the house. Join me in creating a better gambling business that benefits everyone, not just the wealthy few
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I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.
For sure they are reading the discussion happen on this thread and maybe they don't have enough fundings to spend on that matter that's why people don't see any marketing happen to boost the BFG token. To long for this token without good interaction so maybe its best if they could release some good updates to convince or gather new investor to support their project also their token.
I think when you consider that most of us are getting the profit from the casino itself, then it is normal for the team to not have that much money to spend on marketing. Think about it, we are talking about a situation where all the BFG token holders are getting the dividends, then where could the team make any profit from?

Not the casino losers, not the token because if they keep selling then their own token would go down in value, it is literally the tokens they once sold and that's it, there is nothing more. At the end of the day we are not going to see the team spend millions on anything, they claimed they did, but that's about it, not going to happen again.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Betfury team has never published any marketing reports. So we only know that they initially allocated 10 % of the total BFG emission for marketing, but we don't know how exactly they use BFG tokens and how it affects the BFG price.
By the way, does anyone on the forum try to compete for the grand prize in the "Fury Games Legacy" event? It looks like there is strong competition since the user in 1st place has already wagered over 1 million.

If we check the promotion page then that's where we'll see how they use marketing funds including other big  events in the past
sometimes they also use it outside the casino for example trading competition on the new exchange or listing fee
Indeed they do not publish budget reports but without us realizing it we are actually participating there.
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