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dwyane36

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2022, 01:36:45 PM

This is still a great thing, however I would like to mention something regarding the calculations. If you sold 17.4 million BFT, the price wouldn't be what it is right now, so how do we calculate the price? I mean it says 280k dollars worth of BFG was burned but if you were to sell 12 million tokens from lost bets then you would literally have the price crashing to unknowns, probably something like 0.000000001 cent or something, the market couldn't handle that much selling.

So, if we can't sell it for that much, then how do we calculate the price? We shouldn't, we do not need to write the dollar amount there, just write in the token world. If we were to care about fiat all that much, we would be in stock market, just 17.4 million tokens burned is good enough information. Like I said at first, it is a great news, more BFG burned equals all of our BFG being worth more in the future. It may not reflect right away, but it will in the long term.

Of course, the current market doesn't have enough liquidity to process such a number of tokens, and you're right that BFG would be worth nothing if this happened. Fortunately, we don't need to worry about that because the burned tokens don't enter the market. Honestly, I wouldn't pay attention to fiat in such reports because it's just a marketing ploy.

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Quote from: kassex on January 04, 2022, 12:47:47 PM

Total mined: 3 630 067 807 BFG
The number of tokens that have already been accumulated on the platform in total since the launch of the platform (including tokens that have been burned).

Total burnt amount: 1 470 227 373 BFG
The number of tokens that have been burned.

This is still a great thing, however I would like to mention something regarding the calculations. If you sold 17.4 million BFT, the price wouldn't be what it is right now, so how do we calculate the price? I mean it says 280k dollars worth of BFG was burned but if you were to sell 12 million tokens from lost bets then you would literally have the price crashing to unknowns, probably something like 0.000000001 cent or something, the market couldn't handle that much selling.

So, if we can't sell it for that much, then how do we calculate the price? We shouldn't, we do not need to write the dollar amount there, just write in the token world. If we were to care about fiat all that much, we would be in stock market, just 17.4 million tokens burned is good enough information. Like I said at first, it is a great news, more BFG burned equals all of our BFG being worth more in the future. It may not reflect right away, but it will in the long term.

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 04, 2022, 05:37:33 PM

Many are so lazy to read the read the rules that's why they got surprised on why they encounter the issue they have but later they discovered that they are already violating the rules on certain casino that's why they are skeptical to accept their mistakes and mostly blame their problem to the platform they are playing on.

Failure to do so could lead to problems on every platform, which could lead to serious problems for them. Again, there are many players who blame the platform for covering their mistakes. So a player must be aware of the rules before gambling on any website.

Quote from: BetFury.io on January 05, 2022, 04:15:24 AM

Of course, you're right! We must do everything to make the user feel comfortable. Therefore, we offered to contact the risk management team by mail. Unfortunately, the user chooses to go to the forum instead of actually resolving his issue:

Many times some users expect a quick solution, which in some cases may not be possible for that platform. Because some investigation is needed to give a proper solution. This user has done exactly the same thing, since he has posted his issue here, so give a correct solution to his problem.

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@Goldenevermouse, could you merge all your consecutive posts in 1 post, makes it easier to read. I think the easiest is to open a scam accusation here on the forum.
This topic is more for news and updates. Seems like Betfury recently added rakeback also (available from rank 3 and higher); a nice extra feature to start off the new year.

goldenevermouse

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Unfortunately, the user chooses to go to the forum instead of actually resolving his issue:

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You are lying again.
Please don't lie.

I already contact the risk management team by mail.

They don't answer my questions.
More precisely, they answer the same 5 times.

Bets cancelled because they "wrong".

- what exactly was "wrong" ?
- Why?
- what should be "not wrong" ?
- how can you confirm this?

No answers.

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 05, 2022, 06:14:43 AM

Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 05, 2022, 12:21:08 AM

So - Casino can just steal clients' money ?
Without explanation.
According to the rules, of course.
Right?

What kind of explanation you are waiting? You have violated rules and now forcing people to solve the problem you created due to your laziness/cunning/rush to gamble. They offered you a solution, but you wanted to continue to play under your own rules. You try to turn whole situation that you are the victim, but the first wrong move was made by you. Just dont know, if it was made on purpose or accidentally. You know how people say, "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse". This is all about you. Try stealing from a shop, and when the cops come, try to explain that you did not know it is not allowed. They wont give you a chance to explain and recover your reputation.

You keep speculating with the word "rules".

Have you carefully read everything that is written and figured out the problem?

Please explain - what specific rule did I break (in your opinion)?

Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 05, 2022, 05:14:54 AM

Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 04, 2022, 12:16:47 PM

-snip-

Well you'd better to follow the instructions from the representative here, seems like to resolving the accusations is discuss via the support and not on this forum. What do you want here? to solving your problem or keep spamming even you've got the answers of the reasons on your problem?

Regarding the lose bets and win bets, why should a casinos looking for lose bets since there's more reason to do that? Of course they will look into the win bets since they're need to give money for you except you're broke their rules.

So far I see - that you are spamming.
Without reading what is written, not understanding the issue and without entering any information.

I already "follow the instructions".
It doesn't work.

Also I didn't break any rules.
(For some reason, you stubbornly can't read it).

Why am I writing here?
I thought that the forum were created to write (maybe you have a different opinion).
To voice the problem and solve it.

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Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 05, 2022, 12:21:08 AM

So - Casino can just steal clients' money ?
Without explanation.
According to the rules, of course.
Right?

What kind of explanation you are waiting? You have violated rules and now forcing people to solve the problem you created due to your laziness/cunning/rush to gamble. They offered you a solution, but you wanted to continue to play under your own rules. You try to turn whole situation that you are the victim, but the first wrong move was made by you. Just dont know, if it was made on purpose or accidentally. You know how people say, "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse". This is all about you. Try stealing from a shop, and when the cops come, try to explain that you did not know it is not allowed. They wont give you a chance to explain and recover your reputation.

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Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 04, 2022, 12:16:47 PM

-snip-

Well you'd better to follow the instructions from the representative here, seems like to resolving the accusations is discuss via the support and not on this forum. What do you want here? to solving your problem or keep spamming even you've got the answers of the reasons on your problem?

Regarding the lose bets and win bets, why should a casinos looking for lose bets since there's more reason to do that? Of course they will look into the win bets since they're need to give money for you except you're broke their rules.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on January 04, 2022, 01:30:13 PM

Quote from: BetFury.io on January 04, 2022, 11:58:45 AM

The user made bets on the same events, but different markets. Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. The Betfury team is always happy to help with situations that happen to players. But this works only if everyone follows the rules. We hope for mutual respect and wish you all successful and fair bets Wink

Not everyone likes to read the rules which later creates problems for them, only when they face a problem can they understand its importance. Since this player is facing a problem you should help him in the right way as much as possible. Because it will be good for your platform which will carry positive things among other players. And if this player has made a mistake then you can explain it to him in detail by proving the information.

This is just my personal opinion.

Of course, you're right! We must do everything to make the user feel comfortable. Therefore, we offered to contact the risk management team by mail. Unfortunately, the user chooses to go to the forum instead of actually resolving his issue:

goldenevermouse

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I see speculation about the "rules".
(without assessing the situation)

Do the rules allow to steal customers' money?

"Sportsbook platform reserves the right to refuse, restrict, cancel or limit any bet"

Ok.
What does this mean?
How can this be explained and confirmed?

No way!

In fact - win bets cancel, lose bets - lose.

Why?
Just because.
No explanation.

So - Casino can just steal clients' money ?
Without explanation.
According to the rules, of course.

Right?

zuzie

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 04, 2022, 05:37:33 PM

Quote from: ScamViruS on January 04, 2022, 01:30:13 PM

Quote from: BetFury.io on January 04, 2022, 11:58:45 AM

The user made bets on the same events, but different markets. Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. The Betfury team is always happy to help with situations that happen to players. But this works only if everyone follows the rules. We hope for mutual respect and wish you all successful and fair bets Wink

Not everyone likes to read the rules which later creates problems for them, only when they face a problem can they understand its importance. Since this player is facing a problem you should help him in the right way as much as possible. Because it will be good for your platform which will carry positive things among other players. And if this player has made a mistake then you can explain it to him in detail by proving the information.

Many are so lazy to read the read the rules that's why they got surprised on why they encounter the issue they have but later they discovered that they are already violating the rules on certain casino that's why they are skeptical to accept their mistakes and mostly blame their problem to the platform they are playing on.

Sometimes they know the rules but pretend not to know this is the best way to get a reason if there is a problem just look at most of those problems are new accounts in the forum they will make accusations after getting a problem one way to press the Casino to obey their will. Almost all casinos have anticipated this kind of thing including betfury.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on January 04, 2022, 01:30:13 PM

Quote from: BetFury.io on January 04, 2022, 11:58:45 AM

The user made bets on the same events, but different markets. Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. The Betfury team is always happy to help with situations that happen to players. But this works only if everyone follows the rules. We hope for mutual respect and wish you all successful and fair bets Wink

Not everyone likes to read the rules which later creates problems for them, only when they face a problem can they understand its importance. Since this player is facing a problem you should help him in the right way as much as possible. Because it will be good for your platform which will carry positive things among other players. And if this player has made a mistake then you can explain it to him in detail by proving the information.

Many are so lazy to read the read the rules that's why they got surprised on why they encounter the issue they have but later they discovered that they are already violating the rules on certain casino that's why they are skeptical to accept their mistakes and mostly blame their problem to the platform they are playing on.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 03, 2022, 11:21:10 PM

This is a great way that we should all apply, something similar happened to me some time ago and I even had to change the browser thinking that it was possibly a bug on the site, but no, it turns out that when switching to the other browser that is Brave, everything worked wonderfully , my problem was solved by cleaning the PC with a free software and after deleting history and cookies, the games in Betfury ran normally, but it is always good to delete because these temporary ones can bring problems in the future. It can be done as computer security, on many occasions I have seen on YouTube that many users have been victims of theft because some hackers use them to steal data through temporary files.

I keep saying that using Brave should be something that all crypto people should do. Yes you get paid peanuts most of the time and it is not a big amount that you should switch for, who cares about maybe like 30 cents a month? That's literally nothing right, it doesn't even sound like it would be worth it.

However it also comes with benefits, adblocker if you want to, all crypto places already there, and you basically live in a crypto bubble thanks to it, plus 30 cents or not, others are not paying you anything and selling your data anyway, did google every paid you? Did facebook? They are making billions upon billions and pay you absolutely nothing for selling YOU, and 30 cents is just a reward that you would not get anywhere else, at the bare minimum it is something versus nothing. It also opens up every single casino I have tried so far without a problem.

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Quote from: BetFury.io on January 04, 2022, 11:58:45 AM

The user made bets on the same events, but different markets. Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. The Betfury team is always happy to help with situations that happen to players. But this works only if everyone follows the rules. We hope for mutual respect and wish you all successful and fair bets Wink

Not everyone likes to read the rules which later creates problems for them, only when they face a problem can they understand its importance. Since this player is facing a problem you should help him in the right way as much as possible. Because it will be good for your platform which will carry positive things among other players. And if this player has made a mistake then you can explain it to him in detail by proving the information.

This is just my personal opinion.

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Transaction hashes of the 26th BFG Burning
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x51d66b548381129b966b896651f3ad56af77dd211b59801cb4a3368d22c59be9

*Current BFG price - $0.023

5 000 000 BFG ($116 390) – Team Burned
Part of the team BFG tokens that were received during the mining process

440 093 BFG ($10 244) – Auction Burned
BFG tokens used by players for bets in Auction

12 003 770 BFG ($279 424)– Gaming Burned
BFG tokens from lost bets

Total mined: 3 630 067 807 BFG
The number of tokens that have already been accumulated on the platform in total since the launch of the platform (including tokens that have been burned).

Total burnt amount: 1 470 227 373 BFG
The number of tokens that have been burned.

goldenevermouse

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This screenshot shows 4 equal bets.
for one event.
for one result.

- what are "same events, but different markets" ?
explain please

Or this an attempt to confuse someone?

"Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. "

What exactly suspicions?
Make several bets in a row?
What rules did I break?

Again there will be no answers?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 04, 2022, 08:42:08 AM

Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 04, 2022, 07:25:11 AM

Sure.
More detailed information :

I am confused with betting time. How can you made 4 identical bets in the interim of 1 minute? Same amount, same odd, same competition. Can it be sort of a protection triggered by Betfury. As if your left mouse button stuck and you have made 4 bets. Or can the situation be following: the match was about to end, you have quickly made 4 bets (that is why they are identical and made in less than 1 min), and while their and your servers were processing data, your bet was accepted first, and later the rule "3.16. Live Score Update is for guidance only. The Sportsbook platform is not responsible for any errors. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bets if the outcome is already known or if the odds have not been updated correctly due to technical issues" applied, combined with "3.29. It is forbidden to use automated systems (any kind of scanners or robots) on Sportsbook. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bet, made using automatic systems"

The user made bets on the same events, but different markets. Such actions have raised suspicions of the sportbetting provider. The Betfury team is always happy to help with situations that happen to players. But this works only if everyone follows the rules. We hope for mutual respect and wish you all successful and fair bets Wink

goldenevermouse

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(Now they accused me !)

It is you (BF) - who abuse the players.

Question is - why canceled ONLY win bets ?
No answer.

"Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bet made on obviously “bad” odds, switched odds, or a bet made after an event has started."

Ok.

- What specific odds and in what situations were "not correct" ?
- Why?
- What should have been "correct" ?
- How can you confirm this?

I'm still waiting for answers.

Now you just stole money, moreover, accuse me!

And I say that you are wrong.
And it is you - abuse me.

I am waiting for answers and clarification of the situation.

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Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 04, 2022, 07:25:11 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 04, 2022, 06:37:47 AM

Can you provide more detailed information? Add some screenshots with a proof. Otherwise this looks like a wall of text.

You say your win bets are being cancelled. Bets, not just one bet. This cant be just a coincidence. Hard to believe that Betfury cancel your bets everytime you win and leave only loosing bets. You are the first person with such a situation with betfury. As someon on purpose make you lose your balance. Did you have a lot of funds there? Maybe won a huge amount recently?

Sure.
More detailed information :

(screenshots attached)

I lose BNB
lose TRX
lose ETH
lose BTT
lose BSW
lose USDT

All lost bets settled.
As lost.

The only I won - BFG,
and my WIN bets "cancelled" !

Btw, the support by mail answered :

"According to the rules and conditions you have bet on 3 events with wrong odds.
Kenya Police - Vihiga Bullets Fc
Hapoel Galil Elyon - Hapoel Beer Sheva
Bnei Herzelia - Maccabi Tel-Aviv
According to the rules and conditions these bets have been cancelled and recalculated with odds 1. All your bets in BFG currency have been cancelled and returned to your balance."

Well.
my question :

"I lose BNB
lose TRX
lose ETH
lose BTT
lose BSW
lose USDT

All "not wrong odds" ?

the only I won - BFG,
my WIN bets "cancelled"
But my LOSE bets - lose !

"wrong odds" - it's when win?

please provide clarification,
what is "wrong odds" ?

(According to the rules and conditions, of course)."

No answer yet.

Greetings! Thank you for your detailed view of the situation from your side 🙌

We also contacted the risk department and sportsbetting provider to clarify the details of your bets. We received the answer that the User tried to abuse bets in Sportbetting (switched odds are prohibited). The sports provider noticed this issue and contacted BetFury so there his bets were canceled. The provider reserves the right to cancel all bets of the user who is suspected of abuse.
According to SPORTS BETTING TERMS AND CONDITIONS https://docs.betfury.io/terms-of-services/sports-betting-terms-and-conditions#3.-betting-rules

3.1. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bet made on obviously “bad” odds, switched odds, or a bet made after an event has started.
3.3. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to refuse, restrict, cancel or limit any bet.

BetFury’s Risk department invited User to undergo the KYC procedure. Since he did not have an email linked to an account, he must contact us by himself, which has been repeatedly stated in the dialogue. He ignored this request and continued to spam with unconstructive speech.
Read the rules before placing bets ✌️We wish you fair wins!

iv4n

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 04, 2022, 08:42:08 AM

Quote from: goldenevermouse on January 04, 2022, 07:25:11 AM

...

I am confused with betting time. How can you made 4 identical bets in the interim of 1 minute? Same amount, same odd, same competition. Can it be sort of a protection triggered by Betfury. As if your left mouse button stuck and you have made 4 bets. Or can the situation be following: the match was about to end, you have quickly made 4 bets (that is why they are identical and made in less than 1 min), and while their and your servers were processing data, your bet was accepted first, and later the rule "3.16. Live Score Update is for guidance only. The Sportsbook platform is not responsible for any errors. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bets if the outcome is already known or if the odds have not been updated correctly due to technical issues" applied, combined with "3.29. It is forbidden to use automated systems (any kind of scanners or robots) on Sportsbook. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to cancel any bet, made using automatic systems"

I knew I saw something similar happen recently: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279! And they guy is complaining he lost $120k in Monero! They did almost the same thing, placing more bets at the same game... Well, I guess the same thing will happen here! There's ToS and rules are rules!
Also, someone created a thread about this matter recently: Looking for a sports betting sites with single game parlays and no KYC - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-a-sports-betting-sites-with-single-game-parlays-and-no-kyc-5378759 Looks like nobody knows for a crypto place where you can do this!

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