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sr. member
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somehow for a price to remain stable, it's a good sign, no more dumping then.
don't you guys think you have some obligation to promote Betfury and its token after all you are investing in its token?

they didn't stop promoting the casino though so it should be a relief for its investors that they are not giving up. but maybe the casino needs marketing and initiative from its investors, it will renew their dedication to develop the casino further.  

They are further developing their casino though, they made the bonuses available for all ranks and added more, they launched staking for BTC and ETH, they just announced their Christmas promotions,… The only thing they not seem to develop are the plans what to do with the BFG tokens.
legendary
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somehow for a price to remain stable, it's a good sign, no more dumping then.
don't you guys think you have some obligation to promote Betfury and its token after all you are investing in its token?

they didn't stop promoting the casino though so it should be a relief for its investors that they are not giving up. but maybe the casino needs marketing and initiative from its investors, it will renew their dedication to develop the casino further.  
A stable can price can only be a good sign for big and already established coins  like bitcoin, Ethereum and the rest, but for a token that has less than 1 million dollars in trading volume in every 24 hours, stability in price simply means that no one is interested in buying or selling the token, there are no buyers possibly because investors have no reason to buy it, and there are no sellers because the small number of holders are waiting for a possible better price to sell it so they can atleast, make a small profit or recover their capital.

Quite true, in trading, volatility is good in the market since it simply shows that the token is actively circulating since there is this supply and demand cycle.  Being stable or stagnant is quite worrying because once the price becomes stagnant and demand does not come on time, the price might plummet when holders become impatient.

And speaking about obligations, there are no such thing as investors having an obligation to promote the token, this is not a meme coin project, why should a company like BetFury really on their token holders to promote the token, while they themselves spend tens of thousands of dollars promoting the casino itself, why can't they promote both simultaneously?

The obligation lies with the creator of the project. Investors have put their money into the line, due to the promises given on the roadmap of the project.  Investors have no obligation to promote the project, if they want to, it should be voluntarily given.
legendary
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somehow for a price to remain stable, it's a good sign, no more dumping then.
don't you guys think you have some obligation to promote Betfury and its token after all you are investing in its token?

they didn't stop promoting the casino though so it should be a relief for its investors that they are not giving up. but maybe the casino needs marketing and initiative from its investors, it will renew their dedication to develop the casino further.  
A stable can price can only be a good sign for big and already established coins  like bitcoin, Ethereum and the rest, but for a token that has less than 1 million dollars in trading volume in every 24 hours, stability in price simply means that no one is interested in buying or selling the token, there are no buyers possibly because investors have no reason to buy it, and there are no sellers because the small number of holders are waiting for a possible better price to sell it so they can atleast, make a small profit or recover their capital.

And speaking about obligations, there are no such thing as investors having an obligation to promote the token, this is not a meme coin project, why should a company like BetFury really on their token holders to promote the token, while they themselves spend tens of thousands of dollars promoting the casino itself, why can't they promote both simultaneously?
legendary
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somehow for a price to remain stable, it's a good sign, no more dumping then.
don't you guys think you have some obligation to promote Betfury and its token after all you are investing in its token?

they didn't stop promoting the casino though so it should be a relief for its investors that they are not giving up. but maybe the casino needs marketing and initiative from its investors, it will renew their dedication to develop the casino further.  
legendary
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But for now I guess their token will remain like that and it really need a huge push coming from them since if they didn't give their investor any motivation then provably many of its investor will also go away and will not think about investing on BFG again.
I think many people from this thread are complaining about the same thing as you, not much has changed but it seems like they have their own road map, it's just that maybe the road map looks old and doesn't seem to be developing or anything interesting to make investors happy to invest in BFG, I I'm not an investor in BFG but I see that the price of this token tends to be stable because I see that the prices of other cryptos have been seen rising following the price of BTC.

I also don't think that there will be an impact on the price of BFG if they don't provide updates to this token, for example a road map that is more promising and benefits many parties including investors, but again we cannot force all the changes that have been determined. it all comes back to the Betfury team.
hero member
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OP comes online pretty regurarly and updates this thread (and the title) but only with marketing stuff when then announce a big promotion or new features. Since the last couple of months, they have not responded to anything on this topic, even though their input has been asked regurarly (mainly about the plans with the BFG tokens).

The fact that the Betfury account is regularly online shows that Betfury managers probably read what we write in this thread, but they purposefully ignore any questions on both platform development and the BFG token. By the way, they have answered user questions only twice this year, and the last time was almost six months ago (June 23).
I'm even wondering if Betfury interacts with the community anywhere or not.

Don't get surprise about that since maybe they are just avoiding to create mistake by answering those question ask to them and they let all possible that might happen to their token. If you are still following for its growth then maybe try to forget about it since you will just get stress about it. Imagine market is on bullish condition but still their token performs the same. That's why maybe we can't see any huge growth with their token unless the dev will show something interesting that can possibly catch up the interest of the people to acquire their token.

But for now I guess their token will remain like that and it really need a huge push coming from them since if they didn't give their investor any motivation then provably many of its investor will also go away and will not think about investing on BFG again.
legendary
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OP comes online pretty regurarly and updates this thread (and the title) but only with marketing stuff when then announce a big promotion or new features. Since the last couple of months, they have not responded to anything on this topic, even though their input has been asked regurarly (mainly about the plans with the BFG tokens).
This seems to be just a marketing channel for them. I am sure that OP doesn't have team's permission to discuss about official casino issues. Ihmo they don't understand the meaning of this forum. I am actually surprised that they have kept this topic open for discussion. That gives me some hope.

Dividends are one of the main features of the Betfury site, and that's what they emphasized when they launched the project. So, I think that the Betfury team will never abandon paying dividends. Moreover, almost all tokens from the total BFG circulation are staked on the site. Can you imagine what will happen if they decide to stop paying dividends? All users who hold BFG tokens will start selling tokens on biswap, which will eventually lead to a complete devaluation of the BFG token. Neither instant BFG burning nor buyback will help in such a case.
I don't know if you fully read my post, or what your logic is based on, but let me elaborate:

Both buyback / burning and instant burning needs to happen to make my suggestion work, just other of them happening would be a meaningless effort.
Instant BFG burning of team tokens i was talking about isn't meant for instant token value growth, it's just a commitment and preparing for the mechanism that would happen next (that is buying directly from holders). Because without instant burning, betfury would just end up burn their own BFG slowly. And doesn't differ far from what's happening now, aside from more transparency.

And sure, most people who wouldn't care where the valuation is coming from in the future after this would sell them instantly.
No one knows how many people would that be, but price tanking momentarily would mean that betfury would afford to buy and burn even more tokens and reduce the supply radically in short time.

So, price growth rate after that would depends of the % number that betfury reserved for buying and burning, and how price could suppressed by whales with rapidly decreasing circulating supply.
You can do your own speculative math on that. But if we assume that Betfury stays alive and it keeps making profit, increasing sellers market for BFG would be eventually just a mathematical certainty. (A.K.A moon).

I would prefer team members not ever saying that public or using it as a marketing tool, as it would hurt any listing possibilities and might have legal ramifications.
But committing to burn everything they can, token price growth would have no theoretical limit. And all this would happen without growing marketcap.

Mechanism that i am suggesting would mean new way for valuating a token. As this would be one of the special cases, that would make marketcap a meaningless metric for value speculation.
legendary
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OP comes online pretty regurarly and updates this thread (and the title) but only with marketing stuff when then announce a big promotion or new features. Since the last couple of months, they have not responded to anything on this topic, even though their input has been asked regurarly (mainly about the plans with the BFG tokens).

The fact that the Betfury account is regularly online shows that Betfury managers probably read what we write in this thread, but they purposefully ignore any questions on both platform development and the BFG token. By the way, they have answered user questions only twice this year, and the last time was almost six months ago (June 23).
I'm even wondering if Betfury interacts with the community anywhere or not.
sr. member
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But looking at the OP's profile, it seems that he goes online and maybe check this thread for important matters.
If there is really urgent and pressing matter, I believe they will respond as they already survive this long.
Or you can also send him pm if you have valid request if their online support in the site is not responding or taking care of your issue.
Looking their thread title as well, you can tell that they are updating also their followers here in the forum with their current promo.


OP comes online pretty regurarly and updates this thread (and the title) but only with marketing stuff when then announce a big promotion or new features. Since the last couple of months, they have not responded to anything on this topic, even though their input has been asked regurarly (mainly about the plans with the BFG tokens).
hero member
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The BetFury team like I noticed stopped responding to issues being discussed on this thread for quite a long time now, and the reason, I can't really tell, maybe they feel that what is being talked about concerning BFG is not relevant enough to gain their attention, or probably they just dont care.
What ever be their reason for not responding here, that is up to them but the honest truth is that, their silence aren't helping since there are still some BFG holders from this forum and on this thread as well.

With Bitcoin currently above $40,000, now is the best time to start marketing BFG to potential investors, in preparation for the bull run, but unfortunately, it seems like the team really do not care about the welfare of the token in terms of growth and price.
I feel like that was mainly because the more you spend time here, the more requests you get, and ı do not mean like valid requests, I mean literally "please I am very poor I lost my money here, you do not understand, I can't eat food if I do not get that money back" and request their fairly lost money, or say like it was their son or brother or something.

I know that sounds weird and unlikely to you, but as someone who has worked in the industry for a while, I can tell you that there are plenty of people like that, probably at least once a week, maybe more. This is why many representatives of casinos here end up leaving or just sharing information and not chatting after a while, only a few stay and keep doing their work.

But looking at the OP's profile, it seems that he goes online and maybe check this thread for important matters.
If there is really urgent and pressing matter, I believe they will respond as they already survive this long.
Or you can also send him pm if you have valid request if their online support in the site is not responding or taking care of your issue.
Looking their thread title as well, you can tell that they are updating also their followers here in the forum with their current promo.
legendary
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The BetFury team like I noticed stopped responding to issues being discussed on this thread for quite a long time now, and the reason, I can't really tell, maybe they feel that what is being talked about concerning BFG is not relevant enough to gain their attention, or probably they just dont care.
What ever be their reason for not responding here, that is up to them but the honest truth is that, their silence aren't helping since there are still some BFG holders from this forum and on this thread as well.

With Bitcoin currently above $40,000, now is the best time to start marketing BFG to potential investors, in preparation for the bull run, but unfortunately, it seems like the team really do not care about the welfare of the token in terms of growth and price.
I feel like that was mainly because the more you spend time here, the more requests you get, and ı do not mean like valid requests, I mean literally "please I am very poor I lost my money here, you do not understand, I can't eat food if I do not get that money back" and request their fairly lost money, or say like it was their son or brother or something.

I know that sounds weird and unlikely to you, but as someone who has worked in the industry for a while, I can tell you that there are plenty of people like that, probably at least once a week, maybe more. This is why many representatives of casinos here end up leaving or just sharing information and not chatting after a while, only a few stay and keep doing their work.
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Well i don't think they didn't stand a change from the start. They didn't prepare with right people and marketing didn't seem to consult legal experts on how to build the brand. Or if they did, they were talking to cheapest experts out there. Imho they might have been better off without the token.

In fact, betfury, if you are listening, i have an idea that might turn this ship around. There might be legal roadblocks with that too, and you are welcome to ignore me, but it's not like current system is taking you far.

My suggestion to betfury:

1: Stop paying dividends. This might seem harsh, but you can make this a vote among token holders.
Now why in the world would they agree with that you ask? Paying dividends is your one good marketing trick and not paying would just angry everyone, right? Hear me out.

2. Take all your tokens you have scheduled to burn slowly and burn them instantly. You are not making dividends with them anymore so it wouldn't be that hard decision. Removing dividends will most likely open you more regions where you could legally operate as well.

3. Make legally binding statement, where you commit to use decent enough % of your income flow to automatically market buy back bfg tokens and burn them. Borrow unu sed leo's idea and be transparent, and do this hourly.

Of course betfury can stick to the idea of dividends, but math and end game on that is flawed. Token holders won't be happy that way.

Dividends are one of the main features of the Betfury site, and that's what they emphasized when they launched the project. So, I think that the Betfury team will never abandon paying dividends. Moreover, almost all tokens from the total BFG circulation are staked on the site. Can you imagine what will happen if they decide to stop paying dividends? All users who hold BFG tokens will start selling tokens on biswap, which will eventually lead to a complete devaluation of the BFG token. Neither instant BFG burning nor buyback will help in such a case.

Yup Buyback will be the preferred one for the holders. I don't think it will be fair for holders to just stop dividends and just go on. These holders will not take it easy if they are just swept in a way like it's okay to wipe tokens out.

Setting a fixed price to be agreed on Biswap, I think a lot will somehow agree as long as they can get back their BTC.
Now we know the popularity of Betfury didn't warrant a good price for the token.
legendary
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Well i don't think they didn't stand a change from the start. They didn't prepare with right people and marketing didn't seem to consult legal experts on how to build the brand. Or if they did, they were talking to cheapest experts out there. Imho they might have been better off without the token.

In fact, betfury, if you are listening, i have an idea that might turn this ship around. There might be legal roadblocks with that too, and you are welcome to ignore me, but it's not like current system is taking you far.

My suggestion to betfury:

1: Stop paying dividends. This might seem harsh, but you can make this a vote among token holders.
Now why in the world would they agree with that you ask? Paying dividends is your one good marketing trick and not paying would just angry everyone, right? Hear me out.

2. Take all your tokens you have scheduled to burn slowly and burn them instantly. You are not making dividends with them anymore so it wouldn't be that hard decision. Removing dividends will most likely open you more regions where you could legally operate as well.

3. Make legally binding statement, where you commit to use decent enough % of your income flow to automatically market buy back bfg tokens and burn them. Borrow unu sed leo's idea and be transparent, and do this hourly.

Of course betfury can stick to the idea of dividends, but math and end game on that is flawed. Token holders won't be happy that way.

Dividends are one of the main features of the Betfury site, and that's what they emphasized when they launched the project. So, I think that the Betfury team will never abandon paying dividends. Moreover, almost all tokens from the total BFG circulation are staked on the site. Can you imagine what will happen if they decide to stop paying dividends? All users who hold BFG tokens will start selling tokens on biswap, which will eventually lead to a complete devaluation of the BFG token. Neither instant BFG burning nor buyback will help in such a case.
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legendary
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Yeah, marketing trough bitcointalk was a good idea. Imho whole token was ingenious way to unite crypto investors and gamblers both wanting to invest into passive income. Both generating volume, because they were interested about the future of the token.

But among some other things they messed up was the plan. As their end game didn't seem to make any sense from the beginning. Casino was generating volume by people grinding and mining the token, but there was no clear plan what would happen next. Circulating supply kept rising and dividends decreasing. Mining for tokens didn't make any sense any more. And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

They had lots of promise and i ignored lots of red flags because of it.

It is a shame that at this point we already suffer from this type of disappointment,  it is quite Hard, difficult for people to understand that this is bread for today and hunger for tomorrow, also those in charge of these casinos are very disappointing People, it can be that maybe they made a lot of money and then let the business fall , because it had Already been filled with money , they will fulfill their mission, but it seems that it is a Simple way for people to do it like this, because this has a lot of Potential and it is something It can be seen clearly, we as good players, traders and investors know very well that these types of things can Happen, the unfortunate thing here is that what he did was a mistake, he disappointed investors, and an entire Community, something that can still be done. fix with their token with strong Marketing , but this is where we realize the degree of No Commitment that they do not have with the community, it is a shame that they throw this overboard, it is a total shame, and I consider that this type of projects have a lot of Future , but not to let it go like this.

Almost always the same problems are the problem of not Wanting to Accept things as they are, so in this order of things, other people who have similar projects will not have the impact or success thanks to the fact that others have already had this type of experience , Well, it is obvious that they no longer want to live it, for that reason we must be very emphatic in everything, the questions of reason and legality with everything that is a good project, that should not be played with, the truth is not I know why they lost their way, and apart from that they all suffer from the same mistake and the mistake that leads them to failure is not putting the token in a centralized casino, they are no longer asked to be Binanance but rather a centralized one, then that is disappointing , for Those who have some knowledge about Investment know that when you put tokens or coins on a centralized Exchange , you Notice more Seriousness.
Well i don't think they didn't stand a change from the start. They didn't prepare with right people and marketing didn't seem to consult legal experts on how to build the brand. Or if they did, they were talking to cheapest experts out there. Imho they might have been better off without the token.

In fact, betfury, if you are listening, i have an idea that might turn this ship around. There might be legal roadblocks with that too, and you are welcome to ignore me, but it's not like current system is taking you far.

My suggestion to betfury:

1: Stop paying dividends. This might seem harsh, but you can make this a vote among token holders.
Now why in the world would they agree with that you ask? Paying dividends is your one good marketing trick and not paying would just angry everyone, right? Hear me out.

2. Take all your tokens you have scheduled to burn slowly and burn them instantly. You are not making dividends with them anymore so it wouldn't be that hard decision. Removing dividends will most likely open you more regions where you could legally operate as well.

3. Make legally binding statement, where you commit to use decent enough % of your income flow to automatically market buy back bfg tokens and burn them. Borrow unu sed leo's idea and be transparent, and do this hourly.

Of course betfury can stick to the idea of dividends, but math and end game on that is flawed. Token holders won't be happy that way.



Your opinion is very good, it is not to be Ignored, everything that is in favor of improving these situations is welcome , now when it comes to doing things well, I think that the Betfury team should return to the forum, fix everything that It's going to fix it, I don't know if the idea of staking coins is a good one, but they should do the basics, come back and talk about their plans , I don't know how many misunderstandings they have had with other users, I haven't seen that case much, but in In reality, what needs to be done is to be able to open the doors to this very French community, as I have said on many occasions, this is the Satoshi Nakamoto forum, the best forum for crypto and casino issues that have to do with crypto because not There is an apparent reason for them to leave things behind, yes, the matter with the tokens, well, it is something sad, many have lost, and it is not the idea that they should mistreat the investors, because because of a casino like this, it can harm the good job that they want to do other casinos with the same theme that they have in Betfury and that would lead one to think that Almost no one will want to invest in them.

The things that can be fixed in a casino like this can return with full intensity, with good marketing management, advertising is almost everything in a casino, you just have to look at the good results that exist when there is good management in a casino advertising , signature campaigns , all of this is something that has to be seen as positive, not everyone sees it that way, but I think that over time advertising signature campaigns pays for itself, but we have to maintain it because the way they The other players realize that the casino is quite active, social networks are essential, because the majority of players can be found on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, some are known there, so all these types of details are very important for consider for a casino to regain its audience, its community.

sr. member
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Everyone talks nice, and the owner of the casino or the person in charge of the thread Ann doesn't respond at all, so they talk to each other and talk nice, but the casino doesn't offer any response to the members of bticointalk, that is considered a big ignore, I'm honest , I have tokens in this casino and I regret having fallen here, since the tokens are worth nothing because it is easy for them not to respond or something, that does not look good, yes for them it is fine, for me it is not, I It's not because I've put a lot of money into it, but when I did it, I did it trusting in those who promised, and I trusted because it's a good thing, but with what they've done it doesn't even cause me to play here.

There are casinos that are much better than this one, that have a better reputation, that respond to people, that do not run away when confronted, then if they are able to leave those who have not taken out their tokens like this, without plans, like Will it be then at the time of playing, winning and withdrawing? At any given moment they won't say no, because they don't want to hear from anyone from bitcointalk.


There are not a lot of casinos where you could buy tokens from and some of them that offered it, already went to scam. It is true that the team has become silent and they are not updating or making new roadmaps, which is a pity. The tokens are not worthless as you will still get the daily dividends. I think the team can still be trusted and maybe they have a plan in mind for all token holders?
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Everyone talks nice, and the owner of the casino or the person in charge of the thread Ann doesn't respond at all, so they talk to each other and talk nice, but the casino doesn't offer any response to the members of bticointalk, that is considered a big ignore, I'm honest , I have tokens in this casino and I regret having fallen here, since the tokens are worth nothing because it is easy for them not to respond or something, that does not look good, yes for them it is fine, for me it is not, I It's not because I've put a lot of money into it, but when I did it, I did it trusting in those who promised, and I trusted because it's a good thing, but with what they've done it doesn't even cause me to play here.

There are casinos that are much better than this one, that have a better reputation, that respond to people, that do not run away when confronted, then if they are able to leave those who have not taken out their tokens like this, without plans, like Will it be then at the time of playing, winning and withdrawing? At any given moment they won't say no, because they don't want to hear from anyone from bitcointalk.
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@o48o, I get what you are saying but I don’t think they will go for it; there are other options to make the token holders happy. Their main selling point is the dividend system and they already lost a lot of their appeal after all the tokens were distributed. Lets see if they respond to your suggestions but the last couple of posts they did were only marketing related and never responding on issues/suggestions.
The BetFury team like I noticed stopped responding to issues being discussed on this thread for quite a long time now, and the reason, I can't really tell, maybe they feel that what is being talked about concerning BFG is not relevant enough to gain their attention, or probably they just dont care.
What ever be their reason for not responding here, that is up to them but the honest truth is that, their silence aren't helping since there are still some BFG holders from this forum and on this thread as well.

With Bitcoin currently above $40,000, now is the best time to start marketing BFG to potential investors, in preparation for the bull run, but unfortunately, it seems like the team really do not care about the welfare of the token in terms of growth and price.
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Fortunately, in my country, casinos are welcome and my country's government has always been friendly towards gambling and cryptocurrencies, so I have no problems using casinos. But I feel sorry for those people who can't use gambling because their country's governments don't allow it. I think they need to better choose who they put in power in their country
Luckily your country can still accept gambling and cryptocurrencies, that's why you can rest assured playing gambling anywhere without having to worry about someone seeing and reporting it, unlike in my country everything is prohibited, although this prohibition sometimes concerns certain customs or religions so the government in My country bans gambling although for cryptocurrencies they don't ban it completely.

But even so, in my country, most people gamble using VPN just to access gambling sites and that's why it's very difficult for gamblers in my country to gamble unless they use VPN and especially sometimes if there are casinos that prohibit VPN, of course it will narrow our space. for gambling, fortunately there are still several sites that allow VPNs only because of government restrictions that block people from accessing gambling.
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@o48o, I get what you are saying but I don’t think they will go for it; there are other options to make the token holders happy. Their main selling point is the dividend system and they already lost a lot of their appeal after all the tokens were distributed. Lets see if they respond to your suggestions but the last couple of posts they did were only marketing related and never responding on issues/suggestions.
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