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Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 23, 2020, 03:02:11 PM

Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 02:56:08 PM

Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.

Give someone trusted control of your affiliate payments. Let them distribute the payments to investors transparently.
I bet you'd end up getting more sign ups if people weren't thinking all those affiliate fees were going right into your pocket.

That pretty much should be the way to go forward but obviously the serial scammer Dean Nolan would not be even contemplating that move because he would become surplus to requirements and would literally have no significance in the matter at all.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 03:03:41 PM

Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot?

Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one Wink

It's a pretty poor argument when you've repeatedly warned investors that they will suffer reprisals (such as being the last to get paid back). I've been personally contacted by people you've scammed, but they've asked me to not say their names to not jeopardize any chances at reimbursement (as calling you out for them has pretty much 0 upside). Frankly, I'm kind of amazed that this type of intimidation works -- I would've thought everyone realizes there's literally not a chance in hell you'll returned the scammed funds ... but I guess hope is a powerful force.

I also have been contacted by users who clearly stated they would suffer from reprisals if they openly said anything that was counter to what he wanted. He stole $400,000 of the bankroll funds then blamed it on a hack that never took place - so how can he be trusted in any way shape or form?

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:26:25 PM

It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.

Come clean about everything and tell your story from start to finish, including all the success you've had so that others can learn from you. I'm sure it's a hell of a story that people would love to hear and if you're sincere I bet some good opportunities would come from it.

If he comes clean about everything he will open himself up to litigation and would no doubt signing his own arrest warrant and accepting he would go to jail therefore the serial scammer Dean Nolan will never come clean and own up to all the scams from the 2017 ICO all the way through to the end when he shut down the website after stealing the $400,000 bankroll

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 23, 2020, 04:55:54 PM

Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:26:25 PM

It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.

Come clean about everything and tell your story from start to finish, including all the success you've had so that others can learn from you. I'm sure it's a hell of a story that people would love to hear and if you're sincere I bet some good opportunities would come from it.

You loaded your statement "come clean". There's nothing hidden. Everything has been explained by me a million times, you just choose to ignore it and twist my words.
I owe you nothing. I gain zero from changing your mind.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:26:25 PM

It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.

Come clean about everything and tell your story from start to finish, including all the success you've had so that others can learn from you. I'm sure it's a hell of a story that people would love to hear and if you're sincere I bet some good opportunities would come from it.

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Damn it, Dean. So which is it?

Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:14:14 PM

Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.

Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:26:25 PM

You don't know the nature of the hack, you don't know what you are talking about and I don't need to explain it to you.

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But man, must suck to have created such a tangled web of lies you can't even offer a reasonable explanation for anything Grin

You are such a retard. You again ignore everything. You also proved nothing with that quote and comment. There's no tangled web of lies. Everything I have said has been consistent since the very beginning.

The good thing is my new business which isn't gambling, will be launched next month and working with Bitsler will have meant everyone in the forum had chance to be refunded. I won't need to post here again since everyone else is in my contact list.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 04:14:14 PM

Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.

So if the hacker didn't take more than bankroll, why were normal users unable to withdraw funds? I can confidently state that on any of the sites I ran, absolutely no matter what would've happened -- it would've been impossible to lose more than the bankroll (aka all users balances would've always been safe).

Some people managed to get funds, just not everyone. You don't know the nature of the hack, you don't know what you are talking about and I don't need to explain it to you. The people who had funds on site know and they are being refunded, that's all that matters.

Nice to see you ignore the most important parts of my post though so you can just continue later and keep shouting scam about something you know nothing about

It's clear that even if I manage in future to refund all the bankroll and bought all tokens back, with my own hard earned money starting from absolutely fuck all now, that you and the idiots on this forums still won't be convinced or believe it and will still brand me as a scammer.

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I don't even get the hack story. You claim someone found out the server seed? But how on earth could that lead to someone stealing take MORE than the ENTIRE bankroll?

Learn to read. Also, don't act the fool, you know how these things work, you've had hacks on your sites. I don't know where you get the idea that people took MORE than the bankroll but whatever.

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Well your explanation seems to be "millions of dollars just vanished! (um expenses!!!) And my lawyer told me i don't need to do what i promised!". ok.

Again, learn to read retard. Millions didn't just vanish and that has been explained a million times. All investors have had everything explained in far greater detail too and know exactly where every penny went.

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And exactly how much of that was your money, vs bitslers? Anyway, even if you reimburse thousands of dollars after scamming millions ... it doesn't materially change anything...

Showing how idiotic you are again. I'm actually shocked you were able to have successful sites with how clueless you are honestly.
You can surely tell that I'm providing something Bitsler benefits from here. And the fee for that is distributed back to players, everyone is happy in that exchange.

And get a grip, refunding thousands is a FUCKING FIRST STEP. It's not exactly easy for someone to setup something to make thousands when everyone is actively trying to make sure they can't.

This gets 250 people money back, something I worked pretty hard to do.
Then I only have to deal with a few people, who I'm in contact with anyway and don't need to post on the forum to try and contact them.
Everyone will get a full refund eventually. But I can't exactly just magic money out of thin air. I don't have 8000 btc laying around like you do.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 03:03:41 PM

Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot?

Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one Wink

It's a pretty poor argument when you've repeatedly warned investors that they will suffer reprisals (such as being the last to get paid back). I've been personally contacted by people you've scammed, but they've asked me to not say their names to not jeopardize any chances at reimbursement (as calling you out for them has pretty much 0 upside). Frankly, I'm kind of amazed that this type of intimidation works -- I would've thought everyone realizes there's literally not a chance in hell you'll returned the scammed funds ... but I guess hope is a powerful force.

You're lying.

I'm not returning any scammed funds either. I'm refunding funds that were lost in a hack, which I don't have to do remember. As for the ICO funds, again, not scammed. But that's been documented to death, you just ignore it.

And I've said I would make it up to people there too, out of my own pocket, again something I don't have to do and there's no legal obligation to do so.
Some scammer that eh?

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 23, 2020, 03:02:11 PM

Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 02:56:08 PM

Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.

Give someone trusted control of your affiliate payments. Let them distribute the payments to investors transparently.

I bet you'd end up getting more sign ups if people weren't thinking all those affiliate fees were going right into your pocket.

Or how about don't make assumptions on shit you have no clue about idiot?

Find the investors in here complaining about the way I'm handling things. Go on, just one Wink

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Quote from: BetKing.io on April 23, 2020, 02:56:08 PM

Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.

Give someone trusted control of your affiliate payments. Let them distribute the payments to investors transparently.
I bet you'd end up getting more sign ups if people weren't thinking all those affiliate fees were going right into your pocket.

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Quote from: JustinBounty on April 23, 2020, 02:53:46 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on April 16, 2020, 04:33:18 PM

This person just posted in a moderated thread set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan. Looks a very suspicious thing for him to write when everybody knows there was no hack and it was serial scammer Dean Nolan that stolen the funds and shut down the failing website buy blaming it on an imaginary hack to fool people.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I don't know the whole story and from what I knew I made that reply, I don't even play there. Sorry if I offended you at all.

Don't worry, this thread is all lies and not part of the story at all.
The only thing that matters is people have been getting refunded.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 16, 2020, 04:33:18 PM

This person just posted in a moderated thread set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan. Looks a very suspicious thing for him to write when everybody knows there was no hack and it was serial scammer Dean Nolan that stolen the funds and shut down the failing website buy blaming it on an imaginary hack to fool people.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I don't know the whole story and from what I knew I made that reply, I don't even play there. Sorry if I offended you at all.

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This person just posted in a moderated thread set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan. Looks a very suspicious thing for him to write when everybody knows there was no hack and it was serial scammer Dean Nolan that stolen the funds and shut down the failing website buy blaming it on an imaginary hack to fool people.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

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I can understand if he had a legit follower base but as you can see from the fact that he had to use newbie accounts to promote himself and his own views, he doesn't even have a proper following neither, how did he managed to steal so much money when not that many people really liked him?

In any case at least with him now gone and the website being "hacked" we won't have to deal with this now, it is time to start a legal action and I think there are more than enough proof that he stole funds from people with the promise of bigger returns and never made them any returns, his newbie accounts and fake witnesses can't protect him when he is on court, he can hire the best lawyer he can find but when the proof is there and it is concrete all the lawyer can do is try to drop his jail time.

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Quote from: RHavar on December 02, 2019, 12:32:34 AM

Quote from: SyGambler on November 18, 2019, 05:37:58 PM

I'm really wondering now what's the reason he opened that thread ? I mean the site is done and bitcointalk doesn't trust him anyways so what's the point ?

currently I really don't understand the situation at all cause I never expected him to show up here , does this thing have anything to do with legal stuffs or is there actually a chance that he is willing to pay these lost funds ?

totally agree with you about the newbie accounts tho it's totally shady and most likely fake as well , but what's the point of these positives vouches Huh

I suspect the point is that Dean wants a place to try link to and make people think there's a slight chance he's working on paying back people. It's a nice strategy to try stall people from taking (legal) action against him. He's even gone as far as to extort people saying that any talking bad of him, or taking any legal recourse against will result in them being not paid back. I think the play here is just that if you can stall people, after a few months they're far less angry about it and far less likely to actually do something.

It's actually pretty much common of scammers to try placate their victims after the fact. I'd say it easily happens 90%+ of the time. I remember when dice.ninja went dark they deleted absolutely all their accounts everywhere and everything, but still left signed-messages from their cold-storage address promising that people would get paid back (which of course never happened).

I think he checks enough boxes to be considered a Narcissistic Sociopath. Had me fooled for years.

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Quote from: RHavar on December 02, 2019, 12:32:34 AM

Quote from: SyGambler on November 18, 2019, 05:37:58 PM

I'm really wondering now what's the reason he opened that thread ? I mean the site is done and bitcointalk doesn't trust him anyways so what's the point ?

currently I really don't understand the situation at all cause I never expected him to show up here , does this thing have anything to do with legal stuffs or is there actually a chance that he is willing to pay these lost funds ?

totally agree with you about the newbie accounts tho it's totally shady and most likely fake as well , but what's the point of these positives vouches Huh

I suspect the point is that Dean wants a place to try link to and make people think there's a slight chance he's working on paying back people. It's a nice strategy to try stall people from taking (legal) action against him. He's even gone as far as to extort people saying that any talking bad of him, or taking any legal recourse against will result in them being not paid back. I think the play here is just that if you can stall people, after a few months they're far less angry about it and far less likely to actually do something.

It's actually pretty much common of scammers to try placate their victims after the fact. I'd say it easily happens 90%+ of the time. I remember when dice.ninja went dark they deleted absolutely all their accounts everywhere and everything, but still left signed-messages from their cold-storage address promising that people would get paid back (which of course never happened).

800 btc they got away with. wild times back then.

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I received this PM today as notification because serial scammer Dean Nolan deleted the post in his self-moderated thread----

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave:

I would call it disgraceful conduct on his part rather than call it immature but what else is to be expected from serial scammer Dean Nolan. He was last online here in 9th December 2019.

Is there any news about what the thief and scammer is doing at the moment and what lies has he been spinning to his investors that he faked the theft of over $400,000 worth of Bitcoin but conveniently did not report it to the police?

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Quote from: RHavar on December 02, 2019, 12:32:34 AM

Quote from: SyGambler on November 18, 2019, 05:37:58 PM

I'm really wondering now what's the reason he opened that thread ? I mean the site is done and bitcointalk doesn't trust him anyways so what's the point ?

currently I really don't understand the situation at all cause I never expected him to show up here , does this thing have anything to do with legal stuffs or is there actually a chance that he is willing to pay these lost funds ?

totally agree with you about the newbie accounts tho it's totally shady and most likely fake as well , but what's the point of these positives vouches Huh

I suspect the point is that Dean wants a place to try link to and make people think there's a slight chance he's working on paying back people. It's a nice strategy to try stall people from taking (legal) action against him. He's even gone as far as to extort people saying that any talking bad of him, or taking any legal recourse against will result in them being not paid back. I think the play here is just that if you can stall people, after a few months they're far less angry about it and far less likely to actually do something.

It's actually pretty much common of scammers to try placate their victims after the fact. I'd say it easily happens 90%+ of the time. I remember when dice.ninja went dark they deleted absolutely all their accounts everywhere and everything, but still left signed-messages from their cold-storage address promising that people would get paid back (which of course never happened).

Very well put. Scammers have a habit employing several tactics which mirror each other but they are all designed to simply misdirect in the hope of extending (as you said) the time to possibly lessen the anger and sentiment that victims feel.

From the perspective of a victim, there is a significant difference between reading these two post because one acknowledges criminality and the other does not therefore a victim might be reluctant to report the matter to the Police:

1) "Hey, the website was hacked and we lost everything but I am working on some other projects and will pay you back but I need a few months"
2) "I am a scammer, I stole funds from you and you will never see your money again"

The fact serial scammer Dean Nolan is posting here with his lies means there has to be a reason behind it and it is clear for most it is an attempt to stop any victims reporting him to the Police.

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 18, 2019, 05:37:58 PM

I'm really wondering now what's the reason he opened that thread ? I mean the site is done and bitcointalk doesn't trust him anyways so what's the point ?

currently I really don't understand the situation at all cause I never expected him to show up here , does this thing have anything to do with legal stuffs or is there actually a chance that he is willing to pay these lost funds ?

totally agree with you about the newbie accounts tho it's totally shady and most likely fake as well , but what's the point of these positives vouches Huh

I suspect the point is that Dean wants a place to try link to and make people think there's a slight chance he's working on paying back people. It's a nice strategy to try stall people from taking (legal) action against him. He's even gone as far as to extort people saying that any talking bad of him, or taking any legal recourse against will result in them being not paid back. I think the play here is just that if you can stall people, after a few months they're far less angry about it and far less likely to actually do something.

It's actually pretty much common of scammers to try placate their victims after the fact. I'd say it easily happens 90%+ of the time. I remember when dice.ninja went dark they deleted absolutely all their accounts everywhere and everything, but still left signed-messages from their cold-storage address promising that people would get paid back (which of course never happened).

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Quote from: RichGang on November 29, 2019, 05:03:28 AM

the scammer sucessfully pulled off a big scam. i remember warning guys not to invest in his comeback cos it will be one of the biggest scam in btc dicing . i was given distrut for that from his asslickers, now he is gone with all the cash lol. he is claiming that it was hacked. wtf is hack, someone won big and he was butt hurt and decided to run with the guys profit and peoples investment. if only people listened to me before, this will have bee averted

It is only a matter of time before the whole story unfolds. I hope serial scammer Dean Nolan gets arrested soon.

He scammed many people, he deserves jail time.

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BetKing's latest topic is self-moderated and locked:

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(10 posts by 6 users with 2 merit deleted.)

It's very common for scammers to use locked self-moderated threads to promote their scam on Bitcointalk, and Dean is no exception.

What's really nice, is that the thread miraculously gets unlocked every time a ~~sockpuppet~~ totally unrelated Newbie account wants to post there to say what a great guy Dean is. Dean isn't stupid, so he doesn't even care how obvious his sockpupping is.

It really is amazing that serial scammer Dean Nolan is so stupid (as thick as two short planks), what an imbecile. Locking and unlocking the thread to post his propaganda.

Anyway, who can forget his threats to investors including this one he to camtheman recently:

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Quote from: camtheman on October 23, 2019, 06:57:12 PM

Almost like a ponzi scheme, the site had no indication the funds were missing. Just one day site closes and they are gone. At least the ICO is an investment that could be lost and theoretically the bankroll is too, but the site did not even say that people were winning, just something Dean seems to have made up. He took the money, likely spent it elsewhere and now is making something up is my impression. Sucks that I had to be the victim here.

camtheman you are going to ruin this for a lot of people. Respond to the email and chat instead of hiding on the forum

the scammer sucessfully pulled off a big scam. i remember warning guys not to invest in his comeback cos it will be one of the biggest scam in btc dicing . i was given distrut for that from his asslickers, now he is gone with all the cash lol. he is claiming that it was hacked. wtf is hack, someone won big and he was butt hurt and decided to run with the guys profit and peoples investment. if only people listened to me before, this will have bee averted

I remember when you warned about BetKing everywhere, you were doing it wrong way claiming they are cheating while they aren't and BetKing always was probably fair.

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