BetKing sponsors kenya football , is it a publicity stunt ? - page 3.

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Quote from: Becky666 on July 23, 2020, 08:08:11 AM

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AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

They were approached by various members of the forum to fix the problem and inconvenience that they've brought. If this is for real, they have to clean the mess that they've done so that people won't be thinking bad whichever they do or sum up to the name of their casino.
But if they won't care, we don't know if they do or not.

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If I am part of the Kenya Football Association I will not allow a gambling site like Betking with a bad reputation to sponsor to any of our events because fans will just question it and if they are just using the association then the association must post an update or confirmatory that they do have an offer for sponsorship.

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Quote from: btc78 on July 24, 2020, 07:34:20 AM

With this comparison it looks like they are different company but why does a one company will use same name from the very questionable and scammer name of company?

That's is the big question.
When you are creating a big company which is website based, you will try to be unique.
It's crazy if they didn't check that first before using this name.
You don't want to be branded with a bad reputation just because "same name" website does evil works.

Quote from: btc78 on July 24, 2020, 07:34:20 AM

years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.

It is.
Which is why, the question still remains.
Are they just the same? BetKing.io might have a different agenda into why they still took the name.
Assuming BetKing.com is theirs too.

1. They want their old customers.
2. They think they could clear the bad reputation by just changing the generic TLD.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 24, 2020, 09:21:43 AM

Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount, and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients .

in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt

If they want to have a fresh reputation and build up again the trust they get from their players at least they fix their old scam issue. Also tying up on an organization for a sports team with a bad image could also damage the reputation of a team.

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I think it's a positive development. Good for Bitcoin promotion. The real sports industry is very large. I think it is important for the football lover to use bitcoin. It will grow its price and bitcoin economy in the long run.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 24, 2020, 09:21:43 AM

Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount, and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients .

in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on July 23, 2020, 07:46:58 AM

This is really a serious concern to many of their victim, and it needs a legal action which will put betking liable to face scam accusations. If they can prove themselves innocent of this matter, then there's no problem about it. First of all, we need to listen and be open minded with different thoughts that will come out, since this thing might be controversial to everybody.

Yeah, we need to be open-minded, and it will be necessary if we can contact them while I believe that we already got the answer from the site.

Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 23, 2020, 10:10:36 AM

So I received a reply from their customer support. I sent email to [email protected] as seen from below contact list
https://www.betking.com/help/general-help/contact-us/

Received also an email that my ticket has been resolved.
So they are 2 different companies. Seems betking.com is legit.

Great. So we have an email from them. Thank you.

It is necessary to ask them to know their answer.

So we have a full address of them with the telephone number, and they say that they are open 24/7 (Monday through Sunday), and if someone knows that address, maybe he can visit on that address to see the truth, and he can share what he found. We will not know the truth if we don't visit that address to see if they are real or not. They have a connection with betking.io or not.

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Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount, and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

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Quote from: btc78 on July 24, 2020, 07:34:20 AM

meaning their advertising team do not make research before using this name?

or because they are just one or run by the same owner.

Quote from: btc78 on July 24, 2020, 07:34:20 AM

because i believe that the scammers name has been around for years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.

yes it's newer according to this post. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54858753

betking.io opened in 2013, while betking.com opened in 2018. (just read the post link)

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Quote from: TimeTeller on July 22, 2020, 07:59:43 PM

This betking.com has their TM-mark on their name. Whereas, the questionable betking.io has nothing in it.

https://www.betking.com/

https://betking.io/

betking.com is asking for details that are only asked by pure fiat-based casino. So no crypto here.

I think this site is different from the betking.io account, which are still resolving issues from their customers.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54540211

With this comparison it looks like they are different company but why does a one company will use same name from the very questionable and scammer name of company?
meaning their advertising team do not make research before using this name?because i believe that the scammers name has been around for years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on July 24, 2020, 07:09:16 AM

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It's just simple for them to say that the two sites are not related just to hide what happened in the past since betking was involved in scam accusations. But we're still not sure if they are saying the truth or not. It's better for them to make some public clarification about the issue because it will just affect their image since they have the same name, and the other one has a negative image. If they don't want to get involved in issues like this (if they are not really connected), they should make it clear to everyone.

In fact they should sue the site and do something to take down and the site that tries to imitate them merely announcing it will not help, they should do something or else they will continue to receive complaints and they will have to address and clarify this over and over again.

Honestly I think this site should be taken down already if they are related with Betking.io.
Obviously Betking.io scammed investors during the ICO, so I guess some of the investors can find a way to sue the site Betking.com if they are related.

This site that we are talking is a licensed site, according to them, so it's easy to go after a licensed gambling site.

https://www.betking.com/help/general-help/about-us/

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BetKing is currently licensed by the Lagos State Lotteries Board, Anambra State Gaming Company and holds a sports and gaming license issued by the Osun State Government. In addition, BetKing is licensed by the National Lotteries Board.

CAN WE VERIFY THAT?

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on July 24, 2020, 05:16:54 AM

It's just simple for them to say that the two sites are not related just to hide what happened in the past since betking was involved in scam accusations. But we're still not sure if they are saying the truth or not. It's better for them to make some public clarification about the issue because it will just affect their image since they have the same name, and the other one has a negative image. If they don't want to get involved in issues like this (if they are not really connected), they should make it clear to everyone.

In fact they should sue the site and do something to take down and the site that tries to imitate them merely announcing it will not help, they should do something or else they will continue to receive complaints and they will have to address and clarify this over and over again.

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AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

This forum is popular, sure, a lot of members know about their reputation, but I think that would not stop a project from still operating, I've seen some gambling sites here where their forum account is negged tag but they are still into operation.

Though, the industry has not been fair enough when it come to justice, BetKing by now should have been closed down because of several scams they have carried out. Its time we stand up against these scammers no matter where they come from and be prosecuted according to the laws of the land.

Those gambling platforms which later rectified their issues should be exonerated; but those without remorse to their victims shouldn't be allow to go free without the laws having it course. All the gambling platforms I have gamble so far are base on forum feedbacks, those individuals who still use scam platforms should always blame their selves for any thing that happens.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 23, 2020, 10:10:36 AM

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It's just simple for them to say that the two sites are not related just to hide what happened in the past since betking was involved in scam accusations. But we're still not sure if they are saying the truth or not. It's better for them to make some public clarification about the issue because it will just affect their image since they have the same name, and the other one has a negative image. If they don't want to get involved in issues like this (if they are not really connected), they should make it clear to everyone.

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Quote from: mersal on July 24, 2020, 03:23:15 AM

Sponsorship if for the publicity there is no doubt in that but why they choose Kenya which is popular too? If they really wanted to sponsor with such huge amount they can be a part of most football league sponsorship so they get better attention.

I think it will be even greater when gambling companies work with several countries that hold soccer matches because they will certainly trigger others to open betking and learn in full and can even do gambling on betking.

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Sponsorship if for the publicity there is no doubt in that but why they choose Kenya which is popular too? If they really wanted to sponsor with such huge amount they can be a part of most football league sponsorship so they get better attention.

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I think that even they maybe different companies,the fact that they used the same name as a scammer company is not a really good indication of who they might be.Personally based on the experience here in the forum which I have seen a lot of scam accusations against Betking I would be afraid to join such company even if they sponsorship a league from a poor country like Kenya.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on July 23, 2020, 06:47:26 PM

Quote from: wxa7115 on July 23, 2020, 01:00:05 PM

As some people have stated this is most likely an attempt to try to clean their image after the scam they performed in the forum, while it may seem odd they are investing that much money the truth is that most likely they are planning to recover that money by scamming even more people down the road.

The problem, is that amount of people outside forum is far larger than here. So even if you're a scammer, you can hype on such things (i doubt that they paid to this football clubs. more like they paid to journalists) outside forum and you will look good in the eyes of majority. They even don't know that bitcointalk exists.

See if both sites just incase are one, it will have a trouble later on if not now because even if people outside this forum would be big, but since today in this social media world all such things can be easily made available with the proof and the links. So people would know in the outside world as well though it may take little time. So this may have consequences if both happened to the one.

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Quote from: Mahanton on July 23, 2020, 06:53:10 PM

Ive been waiting for Jollygood's reaction again on this one. Cheesy

Hell yeah, he created a thread about betking exposing their scam, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betkingio-is-a-blatant-scam-operated-by-dean-nolan-4751127... and there are others actually like loyce where his alts also posted in this thread saying that he himself got scam. If there are clear connection of the 2 sites, it would be nice to see some doubts of some posters here will be gone.

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Well I last invested with Betking a long time back and also withdrew my investment after deciding that I need to put my eggs on a different basket and it is not worth my time and energy to continue with the said project. They are being tagged as scammers by so many people and now they still have the courage to use the same name in their dealings in other countries. I am not sure what made them decide to use the same name but for the so called investors and those who still "trust" betking, then you need to think twice or many times before making decisions in investing all with them.

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