BetKing sponsors kenya football , is it a publicity stunt ? - page 5.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 23, 2020, 05:32:41 AM

Looking at the bad history of BetKing, it's likely they are trying to clear their image. By sponsoring Kenya football, but many victims
have been harmed by BetKing, so BetKing will always look bad in the cryptocurrency community. Besides, it is impossible for BetKing
to have as much as $ 11 million, there are other lies made by BetKing. And I will not wear BetKing sites to play gambling. And I don't
know if BetKing.com is the same as BetKing.io, it's safer to avoid both sites.

Reading above posts again, it seems that betking.com is a separate entity from betking.io. Their existence is longer than betking.io. I sent an email to betking.com to check about their connections. Let's see what will be their reply.

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Looking at the bad history of BetKing, it's likely they are trying to clear their image. By sponsoring Kenya football, but many victims
have been harmed by BetKing, so BetKing will always look bad in the cryptocurrency community. Besides, it is impossible for BetKing
to have as much as $ 11 million, there are other lies made by BetKing. And I will not wear BetKing sites to play gambling. And I don't
know if BetKing.com is the same as BetKing.io, it's safer to avoid both sites.

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Quote from: shoreno on July 23, 2020, 02:05:54 AM

so am i right that betking has a bad record before . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money , the money can came from thier bad deeds . if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal .

I'm not really familiar about their issue but after reading what others have said it's clear that even if they will make a sponsorship to have a good image, it won't erase the negative image they had before for scamming people. If they are trying to get back the trust of the people by giving a good impression, it won't be easy for them since they have not cleared their name and reputation yet.

The management should also look or review it first before accepting sponsorship because if the money indeed came from stealing, the FKF can also get their name affected with betking's past issue.

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Quote from: shoreno on July 23, 2020, 02:05:54 AM

so am i right that betking has a bad record before . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money , the money can came from thier bad deeds . if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal .

You are right. You just go through the threads made by them. Or to make it easy for you, look at Dean's trust feedback[1].
[1] Trust Summary for BetKing.io
He did a refund and partnership with bitsler but I think there's still plentiful number of people that haven't took the refund nor issues resolved.

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Quote from: shoreno on July 23, 2020, 02:05:54 AM

so am i right that betking has a bad record before . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money , the money can came from thier bad deeds . if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal .

yes you are right indeed this gambling place has a bad history and I suggest you not to enter that gambling place, it could be that all the people's assets that have entered the gambling slot cannot withdraw assets and only get losses, there are still many other gambling places so try to use other gambling spots.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 22, 2020, 04:38:10 PM

First of all, I want to say that I have not seen many positive comments about the service you mentioned. Also, it is useful to know at the end that since the football league you mentioned belongs to the small country, there is a possibility that the bets made with match-fixing and similar events will affect the match result. For this reason, I do not recommend you to use the service you mentioned or bet on the matches in this league.

Who cares about this everything when the sponsor is scammer?this maybe their stunt but for sure many will question the sincerity and how this will turn out.
Betking is proven scammer so there is no way that there will be too many question that will throw against this game.

and who knows that there will be manipulation in this event?
i don't know but i care nothing about this ,because there are many sports that i can get into and more popular than Kenyan Football.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on July 22, 2020, 04:05:07 PM

Betking scammed me for $700. There's no way they have 11 million to spend.

Or your $700 might have already formed part of that $11 million. And because they must have scammed a good deal of people, they have already accumulated that huge amount to try to build back their image in the crypto gambling industry. Which is futile. The ghosts of the past will haunt them no end until appeased.

And for Kenya Football Federation, they better ask for the check and have it cleared first before going any further with the deal. That should be the only way to deal with BetKing. Better safe than sorry.

Here is casino is betking.com and not betking.io. I understand your confusion because I had the same reaction when I first looked at the news. Betking.io is a scam website and if you check their reviews, you will see stories from people who have been scammed by them.

But Betking.com seems like legit sports betting operator. Even though you can see some scam acquisitions for Betking.com as well, but mostly the reviews are positive. If you have read the comments above, you could have find out that the sponsor is Betking.com and not Betking.io!

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so am i right that betking has a bad record before . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money , the money can came from thier bad deeds . if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal .

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 22, 2020, 06:34:24 PM

Quote from: stadus on July 22, 2020, 06:28:37 PM

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betkingio-565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which other had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

We need to look for ways to spread the truth. It can be done by simply making comments in news sites, social media sites, and other venues. Make sure to link as many proofs as possible.

That is what is happening right here in this thread and it is very possible. Comments are making other people aware of the dark history of BetKing. At first impression an online casino sponsoring a national football is really big news. It is a welcome development for the sports, the country, and for crypto gambling. But with all the comments people are making, we are given a heads up that something dark might actually be brewing beneath all this publicity stunt.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 22, 2020, 06:34:24 PM

Quote from: stadus on July 22, 2020, 06:28:37 PM

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betkingio-565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which other had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

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Quote from: Wexnident on July 22, 2020, 08:53:21 PM

I don't think so. I couldn't really find any proper source for them being different, but I looked up both of their websites in simplywhois, and Betking.com is a LOT older than Betking.io. Betking.com was made back in 2001 and .io was made in 2015. If we were to consider Betking.io using another domain to avoid their mess back then, then shouldn't be the .com site younger? Well, there's a chance that Betking.com made Betking.io for purely crypto transactions/bettings but that would also be questionable since I see no need to actually separate them.

I also found this

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We are looking to raise investment so we can develop more products including our own provably fair casino games such as blackjack, slots and roulette.
Funds will also go towards developing a sports betting platform, poker software as well as a host of other gambling related products and services.

It was in the Betking.io ANN thread, and if it says that they're just going to develop a sports betting platform, doesn't that mean that it really isn't them?

We don't know how good and popular betking.com compare to betking.io, but if one site becomes popular, it will be normal if someone wants to create a website by using almost similar domain with the real website to trick people out there. With the logo that is almost the same, people can get scam by the fake site because some people will not check if that site is real or not.

If a website can become a sponsor to one local event, and that is related to many people and companies, I think that website will not try to scam them because it will relate to the website's reputation. If Betking.com wants to make something different from the other site, I think they will not try to do something bad. Perhaps, the other even sponsor or the event organizer will recheck everything before they continue the event, and they will make something if they found a mistake or sign of the scam. We will see it later.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on July 22, 2020, 04:05:07 PM

Betking scammed me for $700. There's no way they have 11 million to spend.

Or your $700 might have already formed part of that $11 million. And because they must have scammed a good deal of people, they have already accumulated that huge amount to try to build back their image in the crypto gambling industry. Which is futile. The ghosts of the past will haunt them no end until appeased.

And for Kenya Football Federation, they better ask for the check and have it cleared first before going any further with the deal. That should be the only way to deal with BetKing. Better safe than sorry.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 07:15:26 PM

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

Betking.com, the one in the topic, doesn't support crypto. Betking.io is the one that does have negative reviews.

Might be Betking.io use other domain so that it can be dragged by the popularity of Betking.com? AFAIK, website name can be registered as same as long as they are using different domains?

Can someone clarify this or I'm totally wrong here?

I don't think so. I couldn't really find any proper source for them being different, but I looked up both of their websites in simplywhois, and Betking.com is a LOT older than Betking.io. Betking.com was made back in 2001 and .io was made in 2015. If we were to consider Betking.io using another domain to avoid their mess back then, then shouldn't be the .com site younger? Well, there's a chance that Betking.com made Betking.io for purely crypto transactions/bettings but that would also be questionable since I see no need to actually separate them.

I also found this

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We are looking to raise investment so we can develop more products including our own provably fair casino games such as blackjack, slots and roulette.
Funds will also go towards developing a sports betting platform, poker software as well as a host of other gambling related products and services.

It was in the Betking.io ANN thread, and if it says that they're just going to develop a sports betting platform, doesn't that mean that it really isn't them?

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I have seen many people posted here being scammed by BetKing but I don't think that the people there are aware of it and they don't really care with those scammed people TBH. Its sports so they will support it even though it is just a publicity stunt.

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 22, 2020, 07:46:07 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 07:15:26 PM

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

Betking.com, the one in the topic, doesn't support crypto. Betking.io is the one that does have negative reviews.

Might be Betking.io use other domain so that it can be dragged by the popularity of Betking.com? AFAIK, website name can be registered as same as long as they are using different domains?

Can someone clarify this or I'm totally wrong here?

I was also curious so I did some quick search.

My conclusion, I think they are the same, look at the ANN thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/invest-in-the-bankroll-betkingio-bitcoin-weekly-wager-contest-5119013, you can see a crown, and their website, https://www.betking.com/sports/s, you can also see the same crown.

this https://betking.io/ is not a gambling site anymore, it's more like an advertisement platform.

This betking.com has their TM-mark on their name. Whereas, the questionable betking.io has nothing in it.

https://www.betking.com/

https://betking.io/

betking.com is asking for details that are only asked by pure fiat-based casino. So no crypto here.

I think this site is different from the betking.io account, which are still resolving issues from their customers.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54540211

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 07:15:26 PM

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

Betking.com, the one in the topic, doesn't support crypto. Betking.io is the one that does have negative reviews.

Might be Betking.io use other domain so that it can be dragged by the popularity of Betking.com? AFAIK, website name can be registered as same as long as they are using different domains?

Can someone clarify this or I'm totally wrong here?

I was also curious so I did some quick search.

My conclusion, I think they are the same, look at the ANN thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/invest-in-the-bankroll-betkingio-bitcoin-weekly-wager-contest-5119013, you can see a crown, and their website, https://www.betking.com/sports/s, you can also see the same crown.

this https://betking.io/ is not a gambling site anymore, it's more like an advertisement platform.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on July 22, 2020, 07:39:45 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 07:15:26 PM

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

The same site that conducted an ICO and the owner owe many users in this forum huge amounts of money even though he comes here and makes some remarks that he will be refunding everyone but it looks like he is yet to repay users here including Loyce.

Not sure whether they are able to pay that kind of money to sponsor the team but with their reputation i wont be surprised if they cancel the deal and i have seen it with 1xbet another shady site.

The Betking that did the ICO isn't the same casino that's sponsoring the football team. They share the same name but have different domains and are totally unrelated.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 22, 2020, 07:15:26 PM

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

The same site that conducted an ICO and the owner owe many users in this forum huge amounts of money even though he comes here and makes some remarks that he will be refunding everyone but it looks like he is yet to repay users here including Loyce.

Not sure whether they are able to pay that kind of money to sponsor the team but with their reputation i wont be surprised if they cancel the deal and i have seen it with 1xbet another shady site.

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Firstly, we still need to be sure if the gambling site in subject does sponsored the Kenya football because they are once accused of scam and site which such record shouldnt be trusted.
With that been said, it will be nice if esport gambling site especially crypto related gambling site also join the league of corporations that sponsor football and others sport to gain more awareness

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Nah, just another publicity stunt for BetKing here, there reputation precedes them and most likely wanted to restore some in crypto community by supposedly supporting female league.

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