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Topic: Betsoft Gamings Questionable Behavior, How Should Bitcoin Casinos Respond? - page 2. (Read 1333 times)

legendary
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So if I get this right, betsoft is the service which provides the gaming platform to those sites right ? How was the user able to win the jackpot if it was unwinnable in the first case ?
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Recently a player at Betcoin appeared to hit a jackpot worth over 500BTC and did not get paid.  The Scam Accusation Thread can be found HERE

Since starting the thread,  information about Betsoft Gaming has been brought to the public's attention that should be taken very seriously.  It seems very possible that many of the biggest progressive Jackpots (worth thousands of Bitcoin) are unwinnable despite 1-2% of each bet increasing its respective fund.

When a Betcoin.ag user met all qualifications for the jackpot, he was given multiple excuses for not being paid that contradicted the paytable.  Without notice or explanation, Betsoft changed the rules days later.

The owner of casinolistings.com has been tracking Betsoft progressives on Bodog.com, found that smaller jackpots (denomination independent) for a few hundred USD were hitting regularly while other denominations were never hit but continue to grow.  

Many smaller casinos (like Betcoin.ag) have progressive Jackpots advertised worth over 5,000 BTC in total, and have ignored requests to prove these funds are in tact.
 
Betsoft surrendered it's Class 1 license from the reputable Alderny jurisdiction in summer 2014 after being investigated.

Several major affiliate sites have issued warnings to their players.  I think we should be questioning any site that chooses to continue to offer these games.  In this un/barely-regulated environment, if players don't demand to be treated fairly, they shouldn't expect to be treated fairly.  Unregulated doesn't mean we have to accept unethical.

https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/06/warning-avoid-all-betsoft-slots-and-casino-games  <---This is the site that has collected jackpot data.

http://www.latestcasinobonuses.com/article/warning-betsoft-progressives-problem

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/casinolistings-issues-betsoft-gaming-warning-227986.html
  
http://vegasclick.com/online/betsoft-jackpot-issue
 
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71002



I encourage all players to contact their favorite Bitcoin Casinos directly and ask them how these issues will affect their relationship with Betsoft gaming and report back.  I will copy any responses and add them to this OP.

I encourage all sites to respond to this thread directly.






Regarding situation with Betsoft games - till further investigation we disabled all games with jackpots from our casino section.
We are already in negotiation with all parties involved and looking forward for more details.

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2. At the Copa
3. Greedy Goblins
4. Mr. Vegas
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6. The Glam Life
7. Tycoons
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