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Quote from: dezoel on August 31, 2023, 10:18:49 AM

Your personal information or your KYC verification has nothing to do with you getting scammed by a certain platform since they scam you out of your money and not your identity documents. Why would a platform need your personal information to scam you when you make a deposit into their platform yourself? If they are not legit or trusted and have evil intentions, they will simply not let you win anything or let you withdraw even if you manage to win something.

So, even though it's important to only join and gamble on trusted and reputable platforms, your KYC verification or personal information doesn't really have anything to do with you getting scammed since it's a cryptocurrency world and you can get scammed even if you are anonymous for them.

I think our identity is highly valuable than any regular amount of money, and if someone deceives us even if there is no money involved, it can still be considered as a scam. KYC data's or documents can also be sold at a good value in the black market. So this alone can bring the scammers or hackers a good fortune.

But at most, it was usually money is the one that they are targeting because it can be used directly and we all know that not all people are willing to do a KYC online for some reasons and not because of what I said earlier. Being anonymous only has to deal with our privacy and it can't protect our funds completely, but being anonymous is helpful for the bad guys. This makes them harder to be traced/tracked by the authorities.

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Quote from: abel1337 on August 31, 2023, 11:44:53 AM

Quote from: dezoel on August 31, 2023, 10:18:49 AM

Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

~snip

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

Your personal information or your KYC verification has nothing to do with you getting scammed by a certain platform since they scam you out of your money and not your identity documents. Why would a platform need your personal information to scam you when you make a deposit into their platform yourself? If they are not legit or trusted and have evil intentions, they will simply not let you win anything or let you withdraw even if you manage to win something.

So, even though it's important to only join and gamble on trusted and reputable platforms, your KYC verification or personal information doesn't really have anything to do with you getting scammed since it's a cryptocurrency world and you can get scammed even if you are anonymous for them.

That's true. The money you deposited is their primary motive in scamming you but there are casino who really are doing their best to take anything with you including the identity you have. We know that documents like ids, photo of you, important information are sellable in the black market. I'm speculating that those casino who are scamming your money and also ask for a full KYC will sell the information they get in exchange for money. It's a double win for the casino.

That's the reason why many gamblers loss a lot of money cause they don't think the outcome and this will happen once they spontaneously involve into gambling casino or site without proper knowledge about that casino or they don't do some research before they played. But some wiSe gambler they don't give their private information such us ID's and full details cause the reason of being anonymous is pretty good than exposing our identity. Cause like what you said above mate once a gambler give their personal details casino will use it to get more money. But anyways there's a trusted casino and we can give them some of our personal details.

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Quote from: logfiles on August 31, 2023, 05:26:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hi, why did you void all my winnings bets @betssen? My balance should be 5000+ euro, but instead it is 2500 euro. I find it very unfair that you just void my winning bets. Please pay the bets as they were legimate sportsbets on top european football league.

Regards.

The OP of this Announcement is inactive so if you expect to get a response from a representative of Betssen in this forum, currently, it's not possible as they may not even see your complaint. Maybe try their support or Live chat on their site for quicker help.

I am curious. What reason did they give for voiding your winning bets?

as logfiles suggested, better contact their online support. they are quite new in this business, and yet, they are already showing some warning signals. so their tagline being safe and licensed, is not being always observed here. if they will not resolve this kind of issue in prompt manner, potential players may not visit their site. since they already created a thread here, should at least visit their thread to answer issues like this.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Hi, why did you void all my winnings bets @betssen? My balance should be 5000+ euro, but instead it is 2500 euro. I find it very unfair that you just void my winning bets. Please pay the bets as they were legimate sportsbets on top european football league.

Regards.

The OP of this Announcement is inactive so if you expect to get a response from a representative of Betssen in this forum, currently, it's not possible as they may not even see your complaint. Maybe try their support or Live chat on their site for quicker help.

I am curious. What reason did they give for voiding your winning bets?

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Quote from: dezoel on August 31, 2023, 10:18:49 AM

Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

~snip

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

Your personal information or your KYC verification has nothing to do with you getting scammed by a certain platform since they scam you out of your money and not your identity documents. Why would a platform need your personal information to scam you when you make a deposit into their platform yourself? If they are not legit or trusted and have evil intentions, they will simply not let you win anything or let you withdraw even if you manage to win something.

So, even though it's important to only join and gamble on trusted and reputable platforms, your KYC verification or personal information doesn't really have anything to do with you getting scammed since it's a cryptocurrency world and you can get scammed even if you are anonymous for them.

That's true. The money you deposited is their primary motive in scamming you but there are casino who really are doing their best to take anything with you including the identity you have. We know that documents like ids, photo of you, important information are sellable in the black market. I'm speculating that those casino who are scamming your money and also ask for a full KYC will sell the information they get in exchange for money. It's a double win for the casino.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

Your personal information or your KYC verification has nothing to do with you getting scammed by a certain platform since they scam you out of your money and not your identity documents. Why would a platform need your personal information to scam you when you make a deposit into their platform yourself? If they are not legit or trusted and have evil intentions, they will simply not let you win anything or let you withdraw even if you manage to win something.

So, even though it's important to only join and gamble on trusted and reputable platforms, your KYC verification or personal information doesn't really have anything to do with you getting scammed since it's a cryptocurrency world and you can get scammed even if you are anonymous for them.

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Quote from: jordanw21 on July 11, 2023, 02:39:17 PM

Not wondered that topic is dead. Before they scammed me, I did research and almost everywhere positive (cause they were generated by bots) and they fail to launch their bot farm on bitcointalk.

Did big mistake, that block account in top crypto casinos, now had to deal with scam projects such as crashino or betssen, whose purpose is to take as much money as they can out of each player without giving back.

well looking at google and doing a little research on this casino i see that they have a lot of complaints on casino.guro and i read some of these complaints and it seems to me that they are made by real people and they are different cases so i hope people stay away from this casino, you can see here the complaints that people have made on casino.guro:

https://casino.guru/betssen-casino-review#tab=js-tab-reviews

I hope you also post your review on casino.guro and also open a complaint against them on casino.guro, I believe that casino.guro could be a good solution for your case, they can exert pressure for this casino to solve your problem or in If the casino cannot solve your problem, then they will have a bad reputation on casino.guro and this will prevent other people from creating an account in this suspicious casino. I also recommend that you open a scam accusation against them, you can do that here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

and you have to post evidence, the creator of this thread has been inactive for over 1 year but even so creating a scam accusation against them will serve to alert other people about the danger of using this casino

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Not wondered that topic is dead. Before they scammed me, I did research and almost everywhere positive (cause they were generated by bots) and they fail to launch their bot farm on bitcointalk.

Did big mistake, that block account in top crypto casinos, now had to deal with scam projects such as crashino or betssen, whose purpose is to take as much money as they can out of each player without giving back.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 02, 2022, 11:13:31 AM

The site is nice, it has a good atmosphere and the games they have are many and above all I focused on the poker part (it should be noted that it is my favorite game)...

Why don't you play the Betnomi poker series with us then?! If poker is your favorite game you should play with us...

The site looks nice, but when I opened a registration page I was disappointed... only after I saw others talking about mandatory KYC, well that's not cool! And I agree with others, this ANN thread is zero, OP should check how others did it and try to do something similar, after all, the ANN thread should present a casino in the best light!

Quote from: stadus on March 06, 2022, 08:42:40 AM

Is OP really planning to be active in the forum? I check the profile and it seems like the account is not active anymore, it's las active was February 21, 2022. It would be nice to see a representative of a certain casino to answer all queries and continues to update us with the new promotion happening.

Well, I am not sure about OP's plan, but if he wishes to get more attention he should be more active definitely! But even with that, I don't think he can expect a lot with the mandatory KYC rule, many of us simply don't like it!

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Is OP really planning to be active in the forum? I check the profile and it seems like the account is not active anymore, it's las active was February 21, 2022. It would be nice to see a representative of a certain casino to answer all queries and continues to update us with the new promotion happening.

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Quote from: toast on February 25, 2022, 09:39:00 AM

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and the main objective here is that the Team should be actively answering all the comments here since there are many issues asking for this .

I hate a site advertising here and then gone when people starts to throw them questions specially about their operation .

I do relate with what you are saying, and frankly you have stated this on point, @Chato1977. If starting a thread is solely intended to just plainly make their name known and exposed, then maybe it should be indicated that inquiries will be entertained once they are set to do so. Or if they really would want to interact with bitcoin users, then in order to save time, they should put out all necessary information and anticipate those that will be asked. But of course, they should explain themselves once concerns are being raised. After all, it is the purpose of advertising here, to get the trust of the users by proving that the site is trustworthy.

The way they respond to the questions being thrown at them here would put up a good impression so it could be an opportunity for them to build a good reputation. It's important that queries here would get answered so they could prove that they're worth our trust. The first impression always lasts.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on March 05, 2022, 04:50:48 PM

Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

Personal information is important and it is dangerous to give it to any unsafe website. Because those websites are licensed, kyc is required by their customers and they also have no other option. This is normal when a licensed website conducts its activities in the marketplace, ensuring the security of their customers' personal information. So be careful not to share personal information on websites that are unfamiliar and without a license.

It would take time before they will gain credibility from this forum. There are casinos here which require KYC but gamblers are okay with it because they already established their reputation. However, on this one, as a new player among gambling casinos, they need to work on how these players will trust on them. And for one, they need to be active here and it seems they are not. Thus, many users are doubtful about their site.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

Personal information is important and it is dangerous to give it to any unsafe website. Because those websites are licensed, kyc is required by their customers and they also have no other option. This is normal when a licensed website conducts its activities in the marketplace, ensuring the security of their customers' personal information. So be careful not to share personal information on websites that are unfamiliar and without a license.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 04:20:38 PM

Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

^ In the last part is always good both this has pros and cons.
KYC thing when it is implemented it is more secure to the site but not us, it barely happens that a gambling casino that has a KYC turn into a scam. It is always regulated by gambling regulators and that is gambling casinos should have a gambling license. I don't want also to give ID photos, probably if they have a level one KYC process that does not require submitting ID, good to go at that stage.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

As a gambler, who want to play in any new casino or any gambling site must be better if we are still Anonymous and not giving our privacy to them, being an Anonymous gambler is preventing us to be scammed, because if you will give all your privacy like ID's, wallets and password and if the hacker or scammer have your personal and info it's easy for then to scam you. KYC is good but not too much.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 05:27:59 AM

Quote from: Shamm on February 25, 2022, 10:17:22 AM

Quote from: $crypto$ on February 24, 2022, 02:42:42 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Checked the site out and I didn't like the boring design and UI. Registration is a complete mess since I detest KYC which is clearly mandatory here which is why I didn't bother registering here just like some of the posters above.

Also, the ANN itself has been presented poorly and needs work. Overall, bad first impressions.

From there we know how complicated it is to register on this casino site. There are too many questions about personal information so I really don't like it, especially when other people say that KYC is required to be given here or provide a passport. This is really annoying for a gambler who remains anonymous.

Everything that must be made easy for the user I think will be a lot of interest but if the rules are strict, many gamblers will avoid seeing the situation of casino sites like this.

Asking some private information is okay but asking to much information is not okay my real point is that of they are asking about email, name, unsername and password is still okay for me but asking too much privacy os not good example ID, or even passport is not good too.
Anonymous gamblers is want to still anonymous and fpr sure if they are very strict what you said is correct that some gamblers will avoid this sites.

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

don't worry, i don't think it is worth to try this site because first and foremost the OP has not visited his thread again. so if you are a gambler, do you want to take the risk of your personal details to have seemingly inactive rep? i dont think so. remember, before you can withdraw, you need to fill up the passport details or any valid ID they accept on the site.
even if the title header says safe and licensed, do you really want to trust such claim? for now, let's wait the rep to be active here again and be more engaging to the community.

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Quote from: Shamm on February 25, 2022, 10:17:22 AM

Quote from: $crypto$ on February 24, 2022, 02:42:42 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Checked the site out and I didn't like the boring design and UI. Registration is a complete mess since I detest KYC which is clearly mandatory here which is why I didn't bother registering here just like some of the posters above.

Also, the ANN itself has been presented poorly and needs work. Overall, bad first impressions.

From there we know how complicated it is to register on this casino site. There are too many questions about personal information so I really don't like it, especially when other people say that KYC is required to be given here or provide a passport. This is really annoying for a gambler who remains anonymous.

Everything that must be made easy for the user I think will be a lot of interest but if the rules are strict, many gamblers will avoid seeing the situation of casino sites like this.

Asking some private information is okay but asking to much information is not okay my real point is that of they are asking about email, name, unsername and password is still okay for me but asking too much privacy os not good example ID, or even passport is not good too.
Anonymous gamblers is want to still anonymous and fpr sure if they are very strict what you said is correct that some gamblers will avoid this sites.

but that is how KYC verification means , they will ask for all details about us and personal things because Emails can be created in multiple times by single person,
same as the User name or even password.
but ID's and specially passport is harder to be faked as they can verify the details thru internet .
but most of us specially me? hate this KYC and wanted only to play anonymously and keep my details privately.

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Quote from: Odusko on February 25, 2022, 06:20:54 AM

Maybe the gambling site has not been fully lunch yet as the owner seems not to care about the many questions asked on this thread, maybe shortly site may become active but until then I will stay away until everything normalize or become more active.

They may be busy doing some development which is why they are not looking at marketing now. They have not designed their thread well yet. This means that they are not yet fully prepared. So wait and get updates about their activities.

When any new gambling website is launched, gamblers should keep an eye on the movement of that website and then join that website. Because many times new websites have to face different types of problems.

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The site is nice, it has a good atmosphere and the games they have are many and above all I focused on the poker part (it should be noted that it is my favorite game) it seemed normal to me, it would be cool if they could organize PVP poker tournaments to take more clients, in the forum there are many poker lovers, what seemed tedious to me is the amount of data that they request when registering, sometimes it is better to give direct registration by mail, a wallet like metamask, something that is fully decentralized.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on February 24, 2022, 02:42:42 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Checked the site out and I didn't like the boring design and UI. Registration is a complete mess since I detest KYC which is clearly mandatory here which is why I didn't bother registering here just like some of the posters above.

Also, the ANN itself has been presented poorly and needs work. Overall, bad first impressions.

From there we know how complicated it is to register on this casino site. There are too many questions about personal information so I really don't like it, especially when other people say that KYC is required to be given here or provide a passport. This is really annoying for a gambler who remains anonymous.

Everything that must be made easy for the user I think will be a lot of interest but if the rules are strict, many gamblers will avoid seeing the situation of casino sites like this.

Asking some private information is okay but asking to much information is not okay my real point is that of they are asking about email, name, unsername and password is still okay for me but asking too much privacy os not good example ID, or even passport is not good too.
Anonymous gamblers is want to still anonymous and fpr sure if they are very strict what you said is correct that some gamblers will avoid this sites.

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