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sr. member
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Forcing us to KYC, that's a shame. At first, I was enthusiastic about trying, and after registering it turned out that apart from the initial registration I entered my personal data and then read the KYC rules it made me sick. Sorry but we prioritize crypto casinos. It is available for crypto deposits but with not too many options. Casinos in focus like fiat casinos in general.

They are not forcing anyone to play on their website and submit KYC but they mandatory asked it upon signing up in which if the users do sign up they understand that they accept that they need to submit personal information. There's a lot of fiat options to deposit rather than the cryptocurrency accepted that's why I understand why do asked information like that which was commonly asked in fiat casinos and other gambling sites.
hero member
Activity: 1708
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Forcing us to KYC, that's a shame. At first, I was enthusiastic about trying, and after registering it turned out that apart from the initial registration I entered my personal data and then read the KYC rules it made me sick. Sorry but we prioritize crypto casinos. It is available for crypto deposits but with not too many options. Casinos in focus like fiat casinos in general.
sr. member
Activity: 1848
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Duelbits.com
Welcome to the bitcointalk forum.

You can modify the registration data on your site, because the majority of gamblers do not want to provide personal data, including me, in order to generate more traffic and attract more customers.!!! If you modify this, I will register on your site and play some games especially sports betting if it is on your program. You can also buy member copper for help you to create a high-level thread.
Casino for fiat, and we still want crypto. Some people have said after registering you will see a crypto deposit for this casino. But filling in personal data that gives too much privacy will be very unwelcome to most people on this forum. So who has started to deposit at this casino? Or did you just register and then weren't interested? that's what I don't want to do. So this casino still can't provide what we're looking for. Even the OP hasn't even come back to give all the explanations other users have thrown about the casino.
sr. member
Activity: 1162
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1xbit.com
I personally don't like pretty strict new casino either asking KYC or the bonus requirements, in your casino you're asking some personal identity e.g. birth date, phone number, real name etc.

Yes I feel the same too, I don't like new gambling sites asking KYC since I don't want to give information to gambling site that doesn't have reputation and doesn't our trust yet unlike other gambling sites here that exist we know that they are reliable and trusted. Based from the signup option there's a lot of information needed already I think they should at least ask for username email and just password and the other things are in KYC and should have level 1 to 3 KYC just like the others.
hero member
Activity: 3150
Merit: 937
The casino is offering a gazillion payment methods(most of them are fiat)and only several cryptocurrencies.
This clearly isn't an actual crypto casino.It's more like a conventional online casino and maybe that's why KYC is mandatory right after registration.The casino simply can't offer so many fiat payment methods without a mandatory KYC procedure.
It's kinda weird for me that the owners of betsensasion are making another casino under a different domain name and trying to promote the new casino as if this is a completely different gambling operator,which has nothing to do with them.This looks like some weird marketing experiment.
Anyway,the forum thread looks unprofessional and I'm sure that OP will make some improvements.
I also assume that OP isn't some imposter and the link in the forum thread isn't a referral link.Or am I wrong? Grin
legendary
Activity: 1820
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I personally don't like pretty strict new casino either asking KYC or the bonus requirements, in your casino you're asking some personal identity e.g. birth date, phone number, real name etc.

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https://www.betssen.com/#/?action=register&btag=629622_l146553
I'm surprised there's a hidden referral under your link, you should change it to the official link only (betssen.com) because it's against forum rules. You can carry your own referral but on your personal text or signatures (newbie can't wear it).
hero member
Activity: 3178
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
Checked the site out and I didn't like the boring design and UI. Registration is a complete mess since I detest KYC which is clearly mandatory here which is why I didn't bother registering here just like some of the posters above.

Also, the ANN itself has been presented poorly and needs work. Overall, bad first impressions.
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 507
With strict rules from the website, I do not think it will get us here to try their site because I see they apply KYC before withdrawing. That is not good as we are crypto user that does not want to see a gambling site use too strict rules. @OP needs to suggest that their team change their rules for the crypto user, making it convenient to start gambling with their site.

But welcome on this forum and we hope @OP can come back with some explanations related to their strict rules and it will be good if they remove it just for crypto users Grin
full member
Activity: 2170
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“FRX: Ferocious Alpha”

I am just pi@#ssed at the fact that you have to provide your Passport to be able to withdraw from this site. What other casinos are still asking for Passports and ID's for verification on every withdrawal?  Roll Eyes

You should not behave like that and think logically, This Casino is new on cryptocurrency and they are a Fiat based Casino that only started accepting cryptocurrency as you can see on there list of there payment method. Most of them are fiat payment processor and only crypto logo is just one among tons of fiat payment.  Fiat based Casino requires to give a mandatory KYC on there customer since they already have a license for a Fiat casino. If this is your first time to see then you should visit bet365 and other fiat base casino.
then i Believe that they should have learn first about how casino in crypto because how could they gather players when almost everyone of us hated KYC verifications?

yeah we knew they are knew in this field but it is their obligation to learn the market they are going first.

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They will need to modify there license coverage so that they can allow crypto user to avoid KYC when playing on there Casino. They are not forcing anyone to play with them. A suggestion is good but a rant is not appropriate.  Cheesy
well it's their decision to made , and also it is their right to operate . also they are not forcing anyone to play in their site but we must understand that the post above comes from a actual gambler that putting his sentiment in this matter as this will help their business here.
hero member
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Dimon69

I am just pi@#ssed at the fact that you have to provide your Passport to be able to withdraw from this site. What other casinos are still asking for Passports and ID's for verification on every withdrawal?  Roll Eyes

You should not behave like that and think logically, This Casino is new on cryptocurrency and they are a Fiat based Casino that only started accepting cryptocurrency as you can see on there list of there payment method. Most of them are fiat payment processor and only crypto logo is just one among tons of fiat payment.  Fiat based Casino requires to give a mandatory KYC on there customer since they already have a license for a Fiat casino. If this is your first time to see then you should visit bet365 and other fiat base casino.

They will need to modify there license coverage so that they can allow crypto user to avoid KYC when playing on there Casino. They are not forcing anyone to play with them. A suggestion is good but a rant is not appropriate.  Cheesy
full member
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Welcome to the forum  Wink

I visited the casino, and boom there were no crypto payments for us to use. While this forum is mostly devoted to crypto betting. So I decided not to register, other than that the registration is quite complicated and provides a lot of personal data. I really don't like this kind of thing. Maybe besides me, other people disagree, and I personally refuse to register. Not that uninterested in the daily free Spin promo will be credited but this is too ................

I asked the Support lady on the chat called Suzi about the Crypto currencies and she said the following :

" The available cryptocurrencies for deposit are BTC & ETH & XRP & BTC & USDT ERC20 and for withdrawal- BTC & XRP & LTC " ...so even if it is not listed, you are still able to use these Crypto currencies.
good to know that even if not listed yet they are accepting more crypto for depositing things that we all wanted to know as we want also to choose sometimes for low fee coins especially when bitcoin and ethereum really having high increase in fees.
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I am just pi@#ssed at the fact that you have to provide your Passport to be able to withdraw from this site. What other casinos are still asking for Passports and ID's for verification on every withdrawal?  Roll Eyes
Whaat?  asking for Passport ?  now i know how to hate this casino , they must change this or will never find any players from this forum .
legendary
Activity: 3164
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
welcome to the forum...your casino is very nice but i think you should have done some research on what kind of customers you want to reach? most casinos don't KYC their customers when they only use cryptocurrencies and for that reason these casinos have many customers, while you are at the very beginning asking people to say their real name, phone number, country and date of birth, Of course this is KYC and something most people shy away from, so I think you need to study what type of target customer will be? the people in the cryptocurrency market (which are people who don't like KYC and avoid it at all costs) or the people who are pro KYC who are a minority in this cryptocurrency market

Welcome to the forum  Wink

I visited the casino, and boom there were no crypto payments for us to use. While this forum is mostly devoted to crypto betting. So I decided not to register, other than that the registration is quite complicated and provides a lot of personal data. I really don't like this kind of thing. Maybe besides me, other people disagree, and I personally refuse to register. Not that uninterested in the daily free Spin promo will be credited but this is too ................

I asked the Support lady on the chat called Suzi about the Crypto currencies and she said the following :

" The available cryptocurrencies for deposit are BTC & ETH & XRP & BTC & USDT ERC20 and for withdrawal- BTC & XRP & LTC " ...so even if it is not listed, you are still able to use these Crypto currencies.

I am just pi@#ssed at the fact that you have to provide your Passport to be able to withdraw from this site. What other casinos are still asking for Passports and ID's for verification on every withdrawal?  Roll Eyes

 Shocked

Seriously, are they asking for a passport to withdraw cryptocurrencies? I've also never heard of any site that asks for ID for each withdrawal.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1965
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Welcome to the forum  Wink

I visited the casino, and boom there were no crypto payments for us to use. While this forum is mostly devoted to crypto betting. So I decided not to register, other than that the registration is quite complicated and provides a lot of personal data. I really don't like this kind of thing. Maybe besides me, other people disagree, and I personally refuse to register. Not that uninterested in the daily free Spin promo will be credited but this is too ................

I asked the Support lady on the chat called Suzi about the Crypto currencies and she said the following :

" The available cryptocurrencies for deposit are BTC & ETH & XRP & BTC & USDT ERC20 and for withdrawal- BTC & XRP & LTC " ...so even if it is not listed, you are still able to use these Crypto currencies.

I am just pi@#ssed at the fact that you have to provide your Passport to be able to withdraw from this site. What other casinos are still asking for Passports and ID's for verification on every withdrawal?  Roll Eyes
full member
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!


If you are trying to enter from a country other than our license region. You cannot login to our site.
Well this is also not functioning in my part meaning there are many countries that is not supported from your license ?

But still welcome to the forum and i also read that there are problems about registration in your part from the incoming players .

Hope everything will be settled in the following days for your better dealing with bitcointalk players .
hero member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 540
DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
Welcome into this forum Betssen.com!

As you can see people earlier posted about those registering required information is too much and even myself do skipped out on registering because of this
situation.Turns out that this is a fiat casino which had put up crypto as an option which it is already been regulated since from the beginning.
So its your choice whether you do register or not and as said i dont think lots will be interested on this one.

I agree with that, nowadays players don't want to give all their information, when they want to gamble on a gambling site that consists of Crypto. Given all the other payment methods, I understand that they do that, because that's where the KYC will undoubtedly come into play. It would be nice if they didn't have to implement KYC for crypto, but I'm afraid that is mandatory.
If they KYC or information needed just like on what you do need to comply just like in Roobet then this might be having a chance but by the looks
of it then it do really ask that much which not all people would really be that willing on registering because they would really hesitate on doing so.
They might be that relevant for fiat market but not into this place where people do prefer on having no kyc.
hero member
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I do even see this one.

4. Why is it necessary to fill in the passport details?

This is done for security purposes. You will only be able to withdraw any winnings after you present your identification document.


https://www.betssen.com/#/ FAQ section.

Do they really think that this would really be appealing?
I don't really think they realize that yet(or maybe they do but it is needed because of regulation). a lot of fiat casinos do this for security and for regulatory purposes. we don't like it because we want to gamble anonymously but there are gamblers who are not bothered by it.

this reminds me of a gambling site with 100+(I think) countries that are prohibited from accessing their website. I don't remember the exact words but the representative of that gambling site basically said that they can't reduce the amount of the prohibited countries because of the license that they have(or something similar to that).

It will be good if they can do that to accommodate players who don't want to undergo KYC, but OP to advance and maximize his promotion here should first get a copper and make good of his announcement by getting a good designer like all the other casino threads and if he is really that serious launch a campaign here, I hope he will be actively addressing our concern and issues, especially the KYC.

Let us wait what the OP will say about this issue regarding registration details and other kyc-related stuffs. If they are serious in promoting their site in the forum, they will find a way how to address the issues brought by the forum users. If they are amenable to suggestions as I believe they just added bitcoin in their payment options to accommodate crypto users.
I dont really believe that they would really make out some exclusions because they would definitely facing regulatory violations since they are licensed casino.
So i dont think that they will cater out people here on this forum on not to do any KYC but well lets just wait for some words whether they would consider
out the users of this place or would simply strictly impose these things.
hero member
Activity: 1932
Merit: 504
Welcome into this forum Betssen.com!

As you can see people earlier posted about those registering required information is too much and even myself do skipped out on registering because of this
situation.Turns out that this is a fiat casino which had put up crypto as an option which it is already been regulated since from the beginning.
So its your choice whether you do register or not and as said i dont think lots will be interested on this one.

I agree with that, nowadays players don't want to give all their information, when they want to gamble on a gambling site that consists of Crypto. Given all the other payment methods, I understand that they do that, because that's where the KYC will undoubtedly come into play. It would be nice if they didn't have to implement KYC for crypto, but I'm afraid that is mandatory.
hero member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 540
DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
Welcome into this forum Betssen.com!

As you can see people earlier posted about those registering required information is too much and even myself do skipped out on registering because of this
situation.Turns out that this is a fiat casino which had put up crypto as an option which it is already been regulated since from the beginning.
So its your choice whether you do register or not and as said i dont think lots will be interested on this one.
legendary
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Betssen Welcome to bitcointalk forum.
I think it is better if you pay small fee and purchase copper membership so that you can post normal images preview for this topic.
This removes some limitation that newbie accounts have.
I tried to register but I see there is some form for entering all personal information with phone number, so I skipped it for now.
member
Activity: 1092
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I do even see this one.

4. Why is it necessary to fill in the passport details?

This is done for security purposes. You will only be able to withdraw any winnings after you present your identification document.


https://www.betssen.com/#/ FAQ section.

Do they really think that this would really be appealing?
I don't really think they realize that yet(or maybe they do but it is needed because of regulation). a lot of fiat casinos do this for security and for regulatory purposes. we don't like it because we want to gamble anonymously but there are gamblers who are not bothered by it.

this reminds me of a gambling site with 100+(I think) countries that are prohibited from accessing their website. I don't remember the exact words but the representative of that gambling site basically said that they can't reduce the amount of the prohibited countries because of the license that they have(or something similar to that).

It will be good if they can do that to accommodate players who don't want to undergo KYC, but OP to advance and maximize his promotion here should first get a copper and make good of his announcement by getting a good designer like all the other casino threads and if he is really that serious launch a campaign here, I hope he will be actively addressing our concern and issues, especially the KYC.

Let us wait what the OP will say about this issue regarding registration details and other kyc-related stuffs. If they are serious in promoting their site in the forum, they will find a way how to address the issues brought by the forum users. If they are amenable to suggestions as I believe they just added bitcoin in their payment options to accommodate crypto users.
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