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Topic: Betterbets.io - Invest in multiple Casinos and apps at once through Moneypot.com (Read 3232 times)

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thank you to our investors for providing a new max payout per bet of 5.7 BTC

Just to confirm, the max payout is always 1% of the bankroll, correct? Such that 5.7 means there are 570 BTC in it and it will go to 5.8 at 580?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Thank you to our investors for providing a new max payout per bet of 5.7 BTC Please join us in our battle against Rollin.io in the newest promotion we created for friendly competition and earn an extra 0.05 Bitcoin for every 100 BTC wagered in volume.



A new era in entertainment and competitive gambling starts October 1st...


You can follow the Wager WARZ here: http://dicesites.com/wager-warz
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

Current max payout per bet is now 4.95 BTC as we near the 500 BTC bankroll mark. I just wanted to say thank you to investors for believing in Moneypot and BetterBets.io, and we hope over the course of the coming years your investment pays off handsomely.

Just a reminder to please use this link to keep aware of volumes and investment progression: http://dicesites.com/moneypot

Remember, the best way to enhance your investment is to spread the word of our casino and Moneypot in general. The power of word of mouth advertising is invaluable to businesses especially in the Bitcoin market space. Have a great week, and may all your winnings be large!

Still down 4.93% from my investment 56 or so days ago but slowly heading up!

Yes it seems that things are currently swinging in investor favor for the time being.



For players and investors concerned with privacy Moneypot.com admins have provided an extra layer of protection on your withdraws to help keep your transactions less traceable. Things like this further give Bitcoin betting an edge over fiat gambling and will be a great help to everyone Smiley

As a new privacy feature, some (but not all) of your withdrawals will now have multiple change addresses (which may be from the cold, hot or warm wallet).

Here's an example withdrawal: https://blockchain.info/tx/93edee61b741dca549f4fad518caa7a4728b9e3f73b055756feb977fd8d7c7fc

This makes it even more of a PITA for anyone trying to do blockchain analysis on MP withdrawals (as it makes it almost impossible to reliably tell change addresses from withdrawal addresses).  And remember to generate unique addresses for each transfer you receive, and when you need that extra level of privacy use our awesome cold-addresses ( https://blog.moneypot.com/cold-addresses/ ) for deposits.

Also, a big thank you to investors as we can now offer players at Betterbets.io a max payout per bet of 5.44 BTC!

Max payout is now 5.64 and is still growing pretty quickly, Smiley.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

Current max payout per bet is now 4.95 BTC as we near the 500 BTC bankroll mark. I just wanted to say thank you to investors for believing in Moneypot and BetterBets.io, and we hope over the course of the coming years your investment pays off handsomely.

Just a reminder to please use this link to keep aware of volumes and investment progression: http://dicesites.com/moneypot

Remember, the best way to enhance your investment is to spread the word of our casino and Moneypot in general. The power of word of mouth advertising is invaluable to businesses especially in the Bitcoin market space. Have a great week, and may all your winnings be large!

Still down 4.93% from my investment 56 or so days ago but slowly heading up!

Yes it seems that things are currently swinging in investor favor for the time being.



For players and investors concerned with privacy Moneypot.com admins have provided an extra layer of protection on your withdraws to help keep your transactions less traceable. Things like this further give Bitcoin betting an edge over fiat gambling and will be a great help to everyone Smiley

As a new privacy feature, some (but not all) of your withdrawals will now have multiple change addresses (which may be from the cold, hot or warm wallet).

Here's an example withdrawal: https://blockchain.info/tx/93edee61b741dca549f4fad518caa7a4728b9e3f73b055756feb977fd8d7c7fc

This makes it even more of a PITA for anyone trying to do blockchain analysis on MP withdrawals (as it makes it almost impossible to reliably tell change addresses from withdrawal addresses).  And remember to generate unique addresses for each transfer you receive, and when you need that extra level of privacy use our awesome cold-addresses ( https://blog.moneypot.com/cold-addresses/ ) for deposits.

Also, a big thank you to investors as we can now offer players at Betterbets.io a max payout per bet of 5.44 BTC!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

Current max payout per bet is now 4.95 BTC as we near the 500 BTC bankroll mark. I just wanted to say thank you to investors for believing in Moneypot and BetterBets.io, and we hope over the course of the coming years your investment pays off handsomely.

Just a reminder to please use this link to keep aware of volumes and investment progression: http://dicesites.com/moneypot

Remember, the best way to enhance your investment is to spread the word of our casino and Moneypot in general. The power of word of mouth advertising is invaluable to businesses especially in the Bitcoin market space. Have a great week, and may all your winnings be large!

Still down 4.93% from my investment 56 or so days ago but slowly heading up!
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

Current max payout per bet is now 4.95 BTC as we near the 500 BTC bankroll mark. I just wanted to say thank you to investors for believing in Moneypot and BetterBets.io, and we hope over the course of the coming years your investment pays off handsomely.

Just a reminder to please use this link to keep aware of volumes and investment progression: http://dicesites.com/moneypot

Remember, the best way to enhance your investment is to spread the word of our casino and Moneypot in general. The power of word of mouth advertising is invaluable to businesses especially in the Bitcoin market space. Have a great week, and may all your winnings be large!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Hehe definitely :p well at least you got some clear house edge and commission numbers now, that should help already :p

Oh, it does. We had discussed things in a few of the MP sites about the lack of real clarity on MP's home page. I can't stress how much I love this data, so thank you again!
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Hehe definitely :p well at least you got some clear house edge and commission numbers now, that should help already :p
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thanks Bjorn.



I'm wondering if it's possible to add like a yearly ROI to it as well (if a site's been out for a month and is up 1%, that'd be a 12% yearly ROI). That would help understand the direction of the sites on a more long-term basis (extrapolated, of course) in relation to other investments.
At this moment I am only privately beta testing this for all sites (and made some decent money with it, so not sure if I will make it public TBH :X my site is not commercial at all, but this tool I made seems pretty valuable to me.)



But one can easily do this themselves in a manual way. Generally the formula is something like this:

gain = one_coin_of_br * wagered * investor_edge

You can see BB had 7100 wagered in last 30 days, so let's say MP had 8k in a month. BR is currently 460 (was lower for last month though!) Investor edge is 0.21% according to my stats. (Normally this is "HE - commission" for other sites)

1/460*8000*0.0021 = 0.03652173913 so your 30 days expected gain is 3.65%. Yearly 43.8% I guess.



Note: Last month BR was actually more around 350 so expected gain was around 4.8% that month. Also BR normally dilutes you, but in the case of MP it also makes the investor_edge lower. So 0.21% is not guaranteed at all.

Note 2: in reality BB's profit was around -0.25% for investors in last 30 days, so actually a loss for investors because of the variance (players were relatively lucky.)


I keep up with most things manually as it is, but having more data automatically given reduces the burden, :p.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Thanks Bjorn.



I'm wondering if it's possible to add like a yearly ROI to it as well (if a site's been out for a month and is up 1%, that'd be a 12% yearly ROI). That would help understand the direction of the sites on a more long-term basis (extrapolated, of course) in relation to other investments.
At this moment I am only privately beta testing this for all sites (and made some decent money with it, so not sure if I will make it public TBH :X my site is not commercial at all, but this tool I made seems pretty valuable to me.)



But one can easily do this themselves in a manual way. Generally the formula is something like this:

gain = one_coin_of_br * wagered * investor_edge

You can see BB had 7100 wagered in last 30 days, so let's say MP had 8k in a month. BR is currently 460 (was lower for last month though!) Investor edge is 0.21% according to my stats. (Normally this is "HE - commission" for other sites)

1/460*8000*0.0021 = 0.03652173913 so your 30 days expected gain is 3.65%. Yearly 43.8% I guess.



Note: Last month BR was actually more around 350 so expected gain was around 4.8% that month. Also BR normally dilutes you, but in the case of MP it also makes the investor_edge lower. So 0.21% is not guaranteed at all. See my house edge explanation here for more about that "extra diluted" part.

Note 2: in reality BB's profit was around -0.25% for investors in last 30 days, so actually a loss for investors because of the variance (players were relatively lucky.)
sr. member
Activity: 312
Merit: 250
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

Nice!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn

+1! I'm wondering if it's possible to add like a yearly ROI to it as well (if a site's been out for a month and is up 1%, that'd be a 12% yearly ROI). That would help understand the direction of the sites on a more long-term basis (extrapolated, of course) in relation to other investments.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Thank you to all our current investors and to those who decide to invest in the future as well. We now have a current max payout of 4.17 BTC per bet!

One of our Bitcoin brothers NLNico, a respected forum member, has put together a very nice Moneypot statistical overview on his site. I feel this is superior to this thread and could be used as a means to track your investment and how all casinos and apps are doing as well. Best wishes to all of you, (both players and investors) as Moneypot and BetterBets.io climb their way into Bitcoin gambling history and continues to provide entertainment for everyone.

Please use this site for detailed stats: http://dicesites.com/moneypot


-Bjorn
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Site bankroll taking a hit these days it seems!

Same user that won big last week is hitting it again, :p. Last week he lost almost everything he won, though, so may happen again.
sr. member
Activity: 312
Merit: 250
Site bankroll taking a hit these days it seems!
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Great news everyone, Moneypot has incorporated!

Big news! MoneyPot is now fully incorporated in Costa Rica!


hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
I think something that would help here is to add the change from the previous week. For example:

Site Bankroll: 5239923942 (+39.21%)

This would help better compare the direction.

Just saw this post, ok I'll consider this for the future just need to make a spreadsheet Smiley
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Newest investor and Casino Stats:



Site Bankroll: 355,345,778.55 bits
Wagered against bankroll: 15,201,850,036.33 bits
Investor Profit: 22,280,829.56 bits



https://betterbets.io stats:

Bets:   64,002,923
Wagered:   11,101,357,204.67 bits
Bets Profit:   114,614,376.28 bits (1.03%)
Expected Profit:   98,938,880.56 bits (0.89%)




There was an increase in our Cashback Club payouts for the VIP tiers, we added more bitcoin, and then extra raffle tickets to this bonus; see here:


> 5 BTC weekly volume: 0.005 BTC
> 10 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.01 BTC
> 15 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.02 BTC
> 25 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.05 BTC
> 50 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.1 BTC
> 100 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.2 BTC
> 150 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.3 BTC
> 200 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.4 BTC
> 300 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.6 BTC
> 400 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.8 BTC
> 500 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 1.2 BTC VIP Bronze (+200 Raffle Tickets)
> 1000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 2.4 BTC VIP Silver (+400 Raffle Tickets)
> 2000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 4.6 BTC VIP Gold (+600 Raffle Tickets)
> 3000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 6.8 BTC VIP Platinum (+800 Raffle Tickets)

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I think something that would help here is to add the change from the previous week. For example:

Site Bankroll: 5239923942 (+39.21%)

This would help better compare the direction.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Betterbets.io Casino
Newest investor and Casino Stats:



Site Bankroll: 368,060,607.02 bits
Wagered against bankroll: 12,548,687,414.18 bits
Investor Profit: 21,103,727.74 bits



https://betterbets.io stats:

Bets:   61,650,987
Wagered:   10,571,093,339.86 bits
Bets Profit:   97,625,552.80 bits (0.92%)
Expected Profit:   93,903,994.84 bits (0.89%)


Variance has finally shifted (for now) to a more equal level, thank you to our investors for the increased bankroll and allowing over 3.68 max payout per bet.

There was an increase in our Cashback Club payouts for the VIP tiers, we eliminated the house edge reduction because further analysis showed it was becoming a self defeating bonus. We added more bitcoin, and then extra raffle tickets to this bonus, see here:


> 5 BTC weekly volume: 0.005 BTC
> 10 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.01 BTC
> 15 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.02 BTC
> 25 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.05 BTC
> 50 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.1 BTC
> 100 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.2 BTC
> 150 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.3 BTC
> 200 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.4 BTC
> 300 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.6 BTC
> 400 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 0.8 BTC
> 500 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 1.2 BTC VIP Bronze (+200 Raffle Tickets)
> 1000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 2.4 BTC VIP Silver (+400 Raffle Tickets)
> 2000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 4.6 BTC VIP Gold (+600 Raffle Tickets)
> 3000 BTC weekly volume player is credited: 6.8 BTC VIP Platinum (+800 Raffle Tickets)

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