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Posted by: RHavar: Anyway, I don't mean to alarm anyone or anything. I just cringe a little every time someone downplays the risks.

I totally understand where you are coming from but this is where you have to remove single points of failure. For example, if I or any of my team were to die (or become incapacitated) our contract between us clearly defines several actions to alleviate a potential missing member among many other things. We as people are only as good as our best laid plans; always have a plan B for a successful long term business.

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Quote from: RHavar on July 22, 2015, 10:55:04 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 08:10:47 PM

Couldn't agree more! And people don't know this, but TF was also in the middle of launching a new venture when he went rogue -- I still don't understand why he did...

And I also have funds I push to PeerBet and a couple others,

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I guess an inherent problem with a site that hold too much users money is the financial incentives start aligning going rogue.

For instance if you compare my two sites: bustabit and moneypot. Bustabit is completely self bankrolled and typically holds ~20-30 BTC in players funds, but makes 30-50 btc a month. Stealing players money, or doing anything to jeopardize it's legitimacy would be totally retarded.

Now take moneypot, at the moment it's probably only makes me a bitcoin a month or so, but holds >125 BTC of other peoples money. If I was less scrupulous, it offers the ability to undetectably steal from investors and if I doubted it's long term prospects going dark might be attractive.

Fortunately however, I'm not a psychopath and optimize for a lot more than financial incentives. But that's something that I can't ever prove and even if assuming it's true there's other ways you can lose your money with me (gross incompetence, me getting hit by a bus, someone putting a gun to my head). All cases I want to improve protection for players though =)

Anyway, I don't mean to alarm anyone or anything. I just cringe a little every time someone downplays the risks.

And of course, I think moneypot has ridiculous potential and I'm extremely invested in it's success =)

Do you happen to take investments for Bustabit, btw, or is there some method of joining in?

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Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 08:10:47 PM

Couldn't agree more! And people don't know this, but TF was also in the middle of launching a new venture when he went rogue -- I still don't understand why he did...

And I also have funds I push to PeerBet and a couple others,

.

I guess an inherent problem with a site that hold too much users money is the financial incentives start aligning going rogue.

For instance if you compare my two sites: bustabit and moneypot. Bustabit is completely self bankrolled and typically holds ~20-30 BTC in players funds, but makes 30-50 btc a month. Stealing players money, or doing anything to jeopardize it's legitimacy would be totally retarded.

Now take moneypot, at the moment it's probably only makes me a bitcoin a month or so, but holds >125 BTC of other peoples money. If I was less scrupulous, it offers the ability to undetectably steal from investors and if I doubted it's long term prospects going dark might be attractive.

Fortunately however, I'm not a psychopath and optimize for a lot more than financial incentives. But that's something that I can't ever prove and even if assuming it's true there's other ways you can lose your money with me (gross incompetence, me getting hit by a bus, someone putting a gun to my head). All cases I want to improve protection for players though =)

Anyway, I don't mean to alarm anyone or anything. I just cringe a little every time someone downplays the risks.

And of course, I think moneypot has ridiculous potential and I'm extremely invested in it's success =)

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Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

On a percentage-gained scale, investing into moneypot has been a really good investment over the past few months. While this doesn't predict anything for the future, it's a nice investment option in the Bitcoin world. At least you can be pretty much 100% sure that it's not a scam and that you won't be burned by a suddenly disappearing coin-dev.

We thought that about TF, as well, who ran a successful business for many months (and one for well over a year), so it's still not really a guarantee, :p. That said, I personally trust Ryan, and therefore the MP platform.

Sure, there is not absolute guarantee in these matters. However, after talking to Ryan quite a bit, I'm pretty certain that he has solid long-term plans, so this is probably about as safe as things get in crypto-land. However, having said this, you should never put all your eggs in one basket Cool

Couldn't agree more! And people don't know this, but TF was also in the middle of launching a new venture when he went rogue -- I still don't understand why he did...

And I also have funds I push to PeerBet and a couple others,

.

Well the good news for everyone is that we will be here for a very long time, we have a bankroll in the case that Moneypot decides to no longer continue (though I cannot foresee this personally) and then we will just switch over to ours and continue operation and games as usual. Our plans are based on years not months and we'll evolve to meet any new areas of improvement in the industry.

BetterBets will at some point attend Bitcoin and blockchain based conventions too, in areas where our freedoms are still protected. Take this for face value because we are here to stay and provide everything to maintain a safe and fun Casino environment.

Have a good rest of the week, great questions Ranlo glad to have you as an investor

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Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 22, 2015, 05:57:14 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

On a percentage-gained scale, investing into moneypot has been a really good investment over the past few months. While this doesn't predict anything for the future, it's a nice investment option in the Bitcoin world. At least you can be pretty much 100% sure that it's not a scam and that you won't be burned by a suddenly disappearing coin-dev.

We thought that about TF, as well, who ran a successful business for many months (and one for well over a year), so it's still not really a guarantee, :p. That said, I personally trust Ryan, and therefore the MP platform.

Sure, there is not absolute guarantee in these matters. However, after talking to Ryan quite a bit, I'm pretty certain that he has solid long-term plans, so this is probably about as safe as things get in crypto-land. However, having said this, you should never put all your eggs in one basket Cool

Couldn't agree more! And people don't know this, but TF was also in the middle of launching a new venture when he went rogue -- I still don't understand why he did...

And I also have funds I push to PeerBet and a couple others,

.

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Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 06:36:16 PM

Quote from: BetterBetsDev on July 22, 2015, 06:34:16 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 22, 2015, 05:57:14 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

On a percentage-gained scale, investing into moneypot has been a really good investment over the past few months. While this doesn't predict anything for the future, it's a nice investment option in the Bitcoin world. At least you can be pretty much 100% sure that it's not a scam and that you won't be burned by a suddenly disappearing coin-dev.

We thought that about TF, as well, who ran a successful business for many months (and one for well over a year), so it's still not really a guarantee, :p. That said, I personally trust Ryan, and therefore the MP platform.

Sure, there is not absolute guarantee in these matters. However, after talking to Ryan quite a bit, I'm pretty certain that he has solid long-term plans, so this is probably about as safe as things get in crypto-land. However, having said this, you should never put all your eggs in one basket Cool

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Quote from: BetterBetsDev on July 22, 2015, 06:34:16 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 22, 2015, 05:57:14 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

On a percentage-gained scale, investing into moneypot has been a really good investment over the past few months. While this doesn't predict anything for the future, it's a nice investment option in the Bitcoin world. At least you can be pretty much 100% sure that it's not a scam and that you won't be burned by a suddenly disappearing coin-dev.

We thought that about TF, as well, who ran a successful business for many months (and one for well over a year), so it's still not really a guarantee, :p. That said, I personally trust Ryan, and therefore the MP platform.

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Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 22, 2015, 05:57:14 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

On a percentage-gained scale, investing into moneypot has been a really good investment over the past few months. While this doesn't predict anything for the future, it's a nice investment option in the Bitcoin world. At least you can be pretty much 100% sure that it's not a scam and that you won't be burned by a suddenly disappearing coin-dev.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 22, 2015, 05:57:14 PM

Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

For what it's worth, I've been pushing small amounts to MP as I'm able to,

. Slowly building my own investment there.

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Quote from: ranlo on July 22, 2015, 05:37:08 PM

Need more whales!

Moneypot's game seems to be getting the attention of whales lately. Some whales decided to visit Betterbets thus making a record of over 1000 BTC wagered in 4-5 days , things is keep going better and better. What moneypot need is more investor to invest in the bankroll, this is to faciliate huge bettor. The only downside to attract whales for now would be the low max profit in the site

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Will you add new game? What kind? And please change the plinko ball, that's not a ball , it's a cart wheel, change it to a proper ball. Aside from that, very great site

Yes, we're looking at a number of possibilities for a new game, nothing definitive yet.

As for the plinko ball, does it really matter whether it's a ball, a cart wheel, a coin or a piece of gum falling?

Yes, you are right. So you should make something different . I like gum falling but cart wheel is bad choosing

Interesting, well you are the first to try and re-invent the wheel on site Grin

(sorry for the humor) I'll see if a change is possible are you sure the wheel is so bad? Really want a neon circle?

I think that unless we get a massive amount of change requests, the cart wheel is here to stay. It will be improved though to make the color of the payout row more apparent.

Lol yes please the colour. The colour in the middle of the cart wheel is too small

Ok, agreed, great idea OrangeSeller! I will add your request right now to our enhancement tracker, thank you.

While I think changing the color is a good idea (there's another plinko game that completely changes the plinko chip to the color of the roll -- so if you rolled all three, you'd actually see three different colors falling), I don't think the chip itself is a big deal. Ball or not, it's all the same to me.

We can at least make the color easier and larger to help make it easier to keep track

Thank you to all our investors on Moneypot.com, we are now able to support a max payout per bet of 2.44 BTC enjoy players.

There's been some decent winners across MP, too. The day before yesterday it sustained a loss of over 15 BTC. Need more whales!